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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by CharityMike How did we all of a sudden go to the SB with ALMOST the SAME D we have now in 2009? We had a secondary coach who made sure the corners and safeties could catch the ...

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Old 02-21-2012, 01:25 AM   #1
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How did we all of a sudden go to the SB with ALMOST the SAME D we have now in 2009?
We had a secondary coach who made sure the corners and safeties could catch the ball? Now the DC for Denver...

And a free safety before the latest knee surgery who was a ball hawk?
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We had a secondary coach who made sure the corners and safeties could catch the ball? Now the DC for Denver...

And a free safety before the latest knee surgery who was a ball hawk?
So this is not possible now?
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I didn't say it wasn't possible, I just give more credit to the secondary coach[name slipped my mind] rather than G.W...
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I didn't say it wasn't possible, I just give more credit to the secondary coach[name slipped my mind] rather than G.W...
Dennis Allen.

I have not been a GW supporter especially as of late BUT you can't honestly not give GW credit. He made the players believe in themselves and they had a swagger that they haven't had since the Dome Patrol.

My point is we have new blood. Spags is a PROVEN winner as a DC. A change of pace with a new dc in 09 brought greatness. It can happen again!
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Dennis Allen.

I have not been a GW supporter especially as of late BUT you can't honestly not give GW credit. He made the players believe in themselves and they had a swagger that they haven't had since the Dome Patrol.

My point is we have new blood. Spags is a PROVEN winner as a DC. A change of pace with a new dc in 09 brought greatness. It can happen again!
I wouldn't go as far as comparing the 09 Saints for a year to a Dome Patrol that did its job year in and year out, to me there is no comparison. The 09 team has a good turnover rate, yes we won a Superbowl with them and yes we had swagger for 1 year, but until we have a dominating D like the Dome Patrol on a consistant level there will be no swagger on a consistant level and Sharper was the man in the back field and wish we had another just like him, Jenkins I don't believe is the answer. And yes you are right it can happen again but I want consistancy not a roller coaster.
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We had a secondary coach who made sure the corners and safeties could catch the ball? Now the DC for Denver...

And a free safety before the latest knee surgery who was a ball hawk?

Allen is the HC in Oakland now, and I think Sharper's presence helped out the secondary a lot - both his own abilities and how he probably coached up the other guys.

I think the pair of Flajole and Curtis can be every bit as good as Allen was, maybe even better. If you look at the 2011 season the Rams' secondary had injury-wise, you can't help but to admire how especially Curtis was able get 3rd and 4th string guys to play at the level they did.

Back to the earlier discussion... I think that the Saints' DE situation could be turned around by simply adding a single FA player into the mix, assuming he is the right player.

The pair of Smith and Campbell/Avril/Mathis could be a dominating starting pair with Jordan, Gallette, Romeus, and perhaps McBride in the rotation.

Of course, at least Campbell and Avril are subject to being tagged and I don't know if the Saints can afford any of the three even if they weren't, but the point remains the same.

Assuming the DTs are able to create more push next season, Smith could still be a good to very good DE for the Saints, and adding the right guy next to him could fix the whole DE situation while still having a group of younger DEs in the rotation and ready to be used in the more exotic front 4 packages Spags occasionally calls.

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