Saints are in danger of NFL discipline

papz · 03-02-2012, 03:29 PM

According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the NFL has determined that MLB Jonathan Vilma was one of the primary culprits in the Saints' "pay for performance" bounty program that will result in NFL discipline.

"In the week of the NFC Championship Game," Schefter said on NFL Live Friday, "Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma put $10,000 in cash on a table and said 'this goes to the guy that knocks out Brett Favre.'" Those weren't Vilma's exact words, but they were similar, according to Schefter, and he's sure to be atop the league's target list for impending discipline. It's worth nothing that Vilma is due $5.4 million in 2012 and has been discussed as a possible salary cap casualty. We wouldn't expect him back with the Saints.

If true, I'm wondering who the snitches are.

FinSaint · 03-02-2012, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by papz

If true, I'm wondering who the snitches are.

Snitches get stiches!

But all in all, this is a "non-issue." So what if they had a pool going, I bet many other teams have them as well.

If the opposing player gets hurt as a result of a legal play, then why would it matter if they had a pool about such things?

Defensive units - in most contact sports - have to have a certain mentality to approaching the game, and as sick as it may sound to an outsider, these type of things help to build that mentality, cohesion, and camaraderie within those defensive units.

I know I put at least two guys under the surgeons knife in my hockey playing days, and as much as I feel sorry for those guys - they should've chosen a different sport if they couldn't handle the nature of the game.

Now, if the hits were deemed illegal, it is a different thing, but I seem to remember that most of those hits on Favre weren't judged as legal by the officiating crew. Maybe the fact that he was older than dirt might've had an impact on how his body reacted to those hits?

I doubt there'll be any major consequences because of this case, and I for one don't feel any differently about the Saints' organization or the players/staff involved if they are somehow found guilty - and I don't care what the rest of the league thinks about them either.

joker-saint · 03-03-2012, 01:44 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Snitches get stiches!

But all in all, this is a "non-issue." So what if they had a pool going, I bet many other teams have them as well.

If the opposing player gets hurt as a result of a legal play, then why would it matter if they had a pool about such things?

Defensive units - in most contact sports - have to have a certain mentality to approaching the game, and as sick as it may sound to an outsider, these type of things help to build that mentality, cohesion, and camaraderie within those defensive units.

I know I put at least two guys under the surgeons knife in my hockey playing days, and as much as I feel sorry for those guys - they should've chosen a different sport if they couldn't handle the nature of the game.

Now, if the hits were deemed illegal, it is a different thing, but I seem to remember that most of those hits on Favre weren't judged as legal by the officiating crew. Maybe the fact that he was older than dirt might've had an impact on how his body reacted to those hits?

I doubt there'll be any major consequences because of this case, and I for one don't feel any differently about the Saints' organization or the players/staff involved if they are somehow found guilty - and I don't care what the rest of the league thinks about them either.

I often wonder if people outside of this sport actually remember that the players chose this sport. Its not like somebody had a gun to there head. Rest assured they took there licks in Highschool and college football. Why should the pros be any different? This is a contact sport last I checked. I'll bet those guys out there that play rugby are just laughing there asses off. Maybe Goodell is getting paid to ruin the NFL because it has grown so popular?

Rugby Saint II · 03-06-2012, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by joker-saint

I often wonder if people outside of this sport actually remember that the players chose this sport. Its not like somebody had a gun to there head. Rest assured they took there licks in Highschool and college football. Why should the pros be any different? This is a contact sport last I checked. I'll bet those guys out there that play rugby are just laughing there asses off. Maybe Goodell is getting paid to ruin the NFL because it has grown so popular?

I only know rugby players laugh at the pads. That's a big difference in the two sports.
Football evolved from rugby when they wanted to change the rules about having a forward pass and wearing protection. No, I'm not talking about sex.

breesfan27 · 03-02-2012, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by papz

If true, I'm wondering who the snitches are.

Shockey??

joker-saint · 03-03-2012, 01:47 AM

This is just ammo for the SAINTS to go out this year and win it all out right. This way there would be no doubts that the SAINTS are champions. !!!WHO DAT!!!! The NFL is turning into a bunch of sissy's if you ask me. If a player is afraid to make a hit it completely hinders them from giving it there all. Each player has the fine they are going to get in the back of there minds when they are on the field now. I wonder if the fans can protest the league rules on this? This mine as well be two hand touch football. Go out there, take your hits, and be a man about it. Isn't that what footbal was all about?

03-02-2012, 03:29 PM	#1
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the NFL has determined that MLB Jonathan Vilma was one of the primary culprits in the Saints' "pay for performance" bounty program that will result in NFL discipline. "In the week of the NFC Championship Game," Schefter said on NFL Live Friday, "Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma put $10,000 in cash on a table and said 'this goes to the guy that knocks out Brett Favre.'" Those weren't Vilma's exact words, but they were similar, according to Schefter, and he's sure to be atop the league's target list for impending discipline. It's worth nothing that Vilma is due $5.4 million in 2012 and has been discussed as a possible salary cap casualty. We wouldn't expect him back with the Saints. If true, I'm wondering who the snitches are.
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03-02-2012, 04:34 PM	#2
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Originally Posted by papz If true, I'm wondering who the snitches are. Snitches get stiches! But all in all, this is a "non-issue." So what if they had a pool going, I bet many other teams have them as well. If the opposing player gets hurt as a result of a legal play, then why would it matter if they had a pool about such things? Defensive units - in most contact sports - have to have a certain mentality to approaching the game, and as sick as it may sound to an outsider, these type of things help to build that mentality, cohesion, and camaraderie within those defensive units. I know I put at least two guys under the surgeons knife in my hockey playing days, and as much as I feel sorry for those guys - they should've chosen a different sport if they couldn't handle the nature of the game. Now, if the hits were deemed illegal, it is a different thing, but I seem to remember that most of those hits on Favre weren't judged as legal by the officiating crew. Maybe the fact that he was older than dirt might've had an impact on how his body reacted to those hits? I doubt there'll be any major consequences because of this case, and I for one don't feel any differently about the Saints' organization or the players/staff involved if they are somehow found guilty - and I don't care what the rest of the league thinks about them either. joker-saint likes this.
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03-03-2012, 01:44 AM	#3
joker-saint 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 382 Blog Entries: 12	Originally Posted by FinSaint Snitches get stiches! But all in all, this is a "non-issue." So what if they had a pool going, I bet many other teams have them as well. If the opposing player gets hurt as a result of a legal play, then why would it matter if they had a pool about such things? Defensive units - in most contact sports - have to have a certain mentality to approaching the game, and as sick as it may sound to an outsider, these type of things help to build that mentality, cohesion, and camaraderie within those defensive units. I know I put at least two guys under the surgeons knife in my hockey playing days, and as much as I feel sorry for those guys - they should've chosen a different sport if they couldn't handle the nature of the game. Now, if the hits were deemed illegal, it is a different thing, but I seem to remember that most of those hits on Favre weren't judged as legal by the officiating crew. Maybe the fact that he was older than dirt might've had an impact on how his body reacted to those hits? I doubt there'll be any major consequences because of this case, and I for one don't feel any differently about the Saints' organization or the players/staff involved if they are somehow found guilty - and I don't care what the rest of the league thinks about them either. I often wonder if people outside of this sport actually remember that the players chose this sport. Its not like somebody had a gun to there head. Rest assured they took there licks in Highschool and college football. Why should the pros be any different? This is a contact sport last I checked. I'll bet those guys out there that play rugby are just laughing there asses off. Maybe Goodell is getting paid to ruin the NFL because it has grown so popular? Rugby Saint II and FinSaint like this.

03-06-2012, 06:48 PM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,167	Originally Posted by joker-saint I often wonder if people outside of this sport actually remember that the players chose this sport. Its not like somebody had a gun to there head. Rest assured they took there licks in Highschool and college football. Why should the pros be any different? This is a contact sport last I checked. I'll bet those guys out there that play rugby are just laughing there asses off. Maybe Goodell is getting paid to ruin the NFL because it has grown so popular? I only know rugby players laugh at the pads. That's a big difference in the two sports. Football evolved from rugby when they wanted to change the rules about having a forward pass and wearing protection. No, I'm not talking about sex.

03-02-2012, 04:45 PM	#5
breesfan27 Mrs. Drew Brees Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Who Dat Nation (by way of South Dakota) Posts: 2,276 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by papz If true, I'm wondering who the snitches are. Shockey??

03-03-2012, 01:47 AM	#6
joker-saint 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 382 Blog Entries: 12	This is just ammo for the SAINTS to go out this year and win it all out right. This way there would be no doubts that the SAINTS are champions. !!!WHO DAT!!!! The NFL is turning into a bunch of sissy's if you ask me. If a player is afraid to make a hit it completely hinders them from giving it there all. Each player has the fine they are going to get in the back of there minds when they are on the field now. I wonder if the fans can protest the league rules on this? This mine as well be two hand touch football. Go out there, take your hits, and be a man about it. Isn't that what footbal was all about?

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