Future of the Franchise

vtiger72 · 03-03-2012, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Jankman8

Well Brees got the Tag now, so we probably have to say goodbye to Nicks, Colston, Porter and Meacham, at least to some of them.

If you ask me we try to sign as many players as we can to a short deal, see if we can win it next year and if we don´t win it we have to start rebuilding. Supberbowl in 2014 will be outside in New York, where we don´t have a shot with the current team anyway.

SO I say go all in after guys like Moss, Ward and other players that got released. Redo the Passrush with young guns like Galette and Romeos and rebuild the team.

If we don´t win it next year bye bye Brees - this is a tough one, but I think the right move - bye bye Vilma and so on!

We need a longterm contract for Jimmy #80 Graham

I doubt the Saints have to say goodbye to all those players. Colston and Nicks will be tough to fit under the cap, but Porter and Meachum could easily return- especially if no Colston on Nicks.

WhoDat!656 · 03-03-2012, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Even IF they are, we now wasted our tag.

Which is more important:

keeping Brees as the Saints QB,

or using the franchise tag to keep Nicks, who has already said he didn't want to be franchised?

CharityMike · 03-03-2012, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Which is more important:

keeping Brees as the Saints QB,

or using the franchise tag to keep Nicks, who has already said he didn't want to be franchised?

Well the 45 min drive across the Causway has me a bit chilled now.

The ideal thing would have been to sign Brees and tag Knicks. Since when does it matter if the player likes it or not?

Reality is, Loomis hand was forced because of this Bounty crap. It would have been way worse to loose the tag.

Style · 03-03-2012, 06:22 PM

I know I read somewhere on this board that a tagged could be reused if the which a deal before FA. So don't the still have till Monday to reach a deal?

AsylumGuido · 03-03-2012, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Thanks Mike i didn't know that. Sad Day in Saints history.

Why is this sad? It's no big deal.

AsylumGuido · 03-03-2012, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Style

I know I read somewhere on this board that a tagged could be reused if the which a deal before FA. So don't the still have till Monday to reach a deal?

No. A tag can only be reused if the player is signed by another team. The tag is dead if the tagged player is either released from the tag or if the player signs a multiyear deal.

Rugby Saint II · 03-03-2012, 06:36 PM

The only thing that I am worried about is the bounty crap. Everything else is secondary. The bounty probably changed our plans about negotiations. Let's see how well Loomis can do with everything he's juggling.

WhoDat!656 · 03-03-2012, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Well the 45 min drive across the Causway has me a bit chilled now.

The ideal thing would have been to sign Brees and tag Knicks. Since when does it matter if the player likes it or not?

Reality is, Loomis hand was forced because of this Bounty crap. It would have been way worse to loose the tag.

I agree that would have been the best situation.

An un-happy player could potentially hold-out and miss valuable practice/playing time.

I doubt Goodell would have taken the franchise tag from the Saints; that would have been too draconian.

Saints should have told Nicks that if he goes to the highest bidder, he would probably be going to a team that is sucking hind tit and his best chance of getting to another Super Bowl is with the Saints.

Byubengal · 03-03-2012, 07:04 PM

I refuse to believe that this is the start of the downfall. The Saints and us fans lived thru 42 years of worse than this. As the saying goes what does not kill you will make you stronger. I think we will get through this and surprise a few people with whatever team we put on the field. Keep the Faith and remember tomorrow is a new day.

AsylumGuido · 03-03-2012, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Byubengal

I refuse to believe that this is the start of the downfall. The Saints and us fans lived thru 42 years of worse than this. As the saying goes what does not kill you will make you stronger. I think we will get through this and surprise a few people with whatever team we put on the field. Keep the Faith and remember tomorrow is a new day.

Yup. And remember the Patriots and their "Spygate" year when they lost their #1 pick? 18-0 going into the Super Bowl.

03-03-2012, 05:12 PM	#11
vtiger72 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 185	Originally Posted by Jankman8 Well Brees got the Tag now, so we probably have to say goodbye to Nicks, Colston, Porter and Meacham, at least to some of them. If you ask me we try to sign as many players as we can to a short deal, see if we can win it next year and if we don´t win it we have to start rebuilding. Supberbowl in 2014 will be outside in New York, where we don´t have a shot with the current team anyway. SO I say go all in after guys like Moss, Ward and other players that got released. Redo the Passrush with young guns like Galette and Romeos and rebuild the team. If we don´t win it next year bye bye Brees - this is a tough one, but I think the right move - bye bye Vilma and so on! We need a longterm contract for Jimmy #80 Graham I doubt the Saints have to say goodbye to all those players. Colston and Nicks will be tough to fit under the cap, but Porter and Meachum could easily return- especially if no Colston on Nicks.
vtiger72 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 185

03-03-2012, 06:11 PM	#12
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,046	Originally Posted by CharityMike Even IF they are, we now wasted our tag. Which is more important: keeping Brees as the Saints QB, or using the franchise tag to keep Nicks, who has already said he didn't want to be franchised? CharityMike likes this.

03-03-2012, 06:16 PM	#13
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Which is more important: keeping Brees as the Saints QB, or using the franchise tag to keep Nicks, who has already said he didn't want to be franchised? Well the 45 min drive across the Causway has me a bit chilled now. The ideal thing would have been to sign Brees and tag Knicks. Since when does it matter if the player likes it or not? Reality is, Loomis hand was forced because of this Bounty crap. It would have been way worse to loose the tag.

03-03-2012, 06:24 PM	#15
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,210	Originally Posted by QBREES9 Thanks Mike i didn't know that. Sad Day in Saints history. Why is this sad? It's no big deal.

03-03-2012, 06:26 PM	#16
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,210	Originally Posted by Style I know I read somewhere on this board that a tagged could be reused if the which a deal before FA. So don't the still have till Monday to reach a deal? No. A tag can only be reused if the player is signed by another team. The tag is dead if the tagged player is either released from the tag or if the player signs a multiyear deal.

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03-03-2012, 06:22 PM	#14
Style Registered Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: DeRidder La. Posts: 44	I know I read somewhere on this board that a tagged could be reused if the which a deal before FA. So don't the still have till Monday to reach a deal?

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	The only thing that I am worried about is the bounty crap. Everything else is secondary. The bounty probably changed our plans about negotiations. Let's see how well Loomis can do with everything he's juggling.

03-03-2012, 06:58 PM	#18
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,046	Originally Posted by CharityMike Well the 45 min drive across the Causway has me a bit chilled now. The ideal thing would have been to sign Brees and tag Knicks. Since when does it matter if the player likes it or not? Reality is, Loomis hand was forced because of this Bounty crap. It would have been way worse to loose the tag. I agree that would have been the best situation. An un-happy player could potentially hold-out and miss valuable practice/playing time. I doubt Goodell would have taken the franchise tag from the Saints; that would have been too draconian. Saints should have told Nicks that if he goes to the highest bidder, he would probably be going to a team that is sucking hind tit and his best chance of getting to another Super Bowl is with the Saints.

03-03-2012, 07:04 PM	#19
Byubengal Registered Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Summerville, South Carolina Posts: 44	I refuse to believe that this is the start of the downfall. The Saints and us fans lived thru 42 years of worse than this. As the saying goes what does not kill you will make you stronger. I think we will get through this and surprise a few people with whatever team we put on the field. Keep the Faith and remember tomorrow is a new day.

03-03-2012, 07:06 PM	#20
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,210	Originally Posted by Byubengal I refuse to believe that this is the start of the downfall. The Saints and us fans lived thru 42 years of worse than this. As the saying goes what does not kill you will make you stronger. I think we will get through this and surprise a few people with whatever team we put on the field. Keep the Faith and remember tomorrow is a new day. Yup. And remember the Patriots and their "Spygate" year when they lost their #1 pick? 18-0 going into the Super Bowl. Rickh likes this.

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