Future of the Franchise

FinSaint · 03-03-2012, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Jankman8

I do hope so, I´m just sayin...

I don´t want the Saints to pay Nicks elite money and spend half their franchise on two Guards.

That was just a plan b)

I wouldn't have a problem with them giving Nicks the same contract as Evans + 1M to cover the inflation like he stated that he wanted - if the contract was end loaded it wouldn't matter because the cap is going to rise in two years and Nicks' contract would raise the contracts for other guards around the league hurting other teams as well.

QBREES9 · 03-03-2012, 03:59 PM

Thanks Mike i didn't know that. Sad Day in Saints history.

AsylumGuido · 03-03-2012, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Thanks Mike i didn't know that. Sad Day in Saints history.

Why is this sad? It's no big deal.

vtiger72 · 03-03-2012, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Jankman8

Well Brees got the Tag now, so we probably have to say goodbye to Nicks, Colston, Porter and Meacham, at least to some of them.

If you ask me we try to sign as many players as we can to a short deal, see if we can win it next year and if we don´t win it we have to start rebuilding. Supberbowl in 2014 will be outside in New York, where we don´t have a shot with the current team anyway.

SO I say go all in after guys like Moss, Ward and other players that got released. Redo the Passrush with young guns like Galette and Romeos and rebuild the team.

If we don´t win it next year bye bye Brees - this is a tough one, but I think the right move - bye bye Vilma and so on!

We need a longterm contract for Jimmy #80 Graham

I doubt the Saints have to say goodbye to all those players. Colston and Nicks will be tough to fit under the cap, but Porter and Meachum could easily return- especially if no Colston on Nicks.

Style · 03-03-2012, 05:22 PM

I know I read somewhere on this board that a tagged could be reused if the which a deal before FA. So don't the still have till Monday to reach a deal?

AsylumGuido · 03-03-2012, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Style

I know I read somewhere on this board that a tagged could be reused if the which a deal before FA. So don't the still have till Monday to reach a deal?

No. A tag can only be reused if the player is signed by another team. The tag is dead if the tagged player is either released from the tag or if the player signs a multiyear deal.

Rugby Saint II · 03-03-2012, 05:36 PM

The only thing that I am worried about is the bounty crap. Everything else is secondary. The bounty probably changed our plans about negotiations. Let's see how well Loomis can do with everything he's juggling.

Byubengal · 03-03-2012, 06:04 PM

I refuse to believe that this is the start of the downfall. The Saints and us fans lived thru 42 years of worse than this. As the saying goes what does not kill you will make you stronger. I think we will get through this and surprise a few people with whatever team we put on the field. Keep the Faith and remember tomorrow is a new day.

AsylumGuido · 03-03-2012, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by Byubengal

I refuse to believe that this is the start of the downfall. The Saints and us fans lived thru 42 years of worse than this. As the saying goes what does not kill you will make you stronger. I think we will get through this and surprise a few people with whatever team we put on the field. Keep the Faith and remember tomorrow is a new day.

Yup. And remember the Patriots and their "Spygate" year when they lost their #1 pick? 18-0 going into the Super Bowl.

SaintsBro · 03-04-2012, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Byubengal

I refuse to believe that this is the start of the downfall. The Saints and us fans lived thru 42 years of worse than this. As the saying goes what does not kill you will make you stronger. I think we will get through this and surprise a few people with whatever team we put on the field. Keep the Faith and remember tomorrow is a new day.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yup. And remember the Patriots and their "Spygate" year when they lost their #1 pick? 18-0 going into the Super Bowl.

Exactly my thoughts as well. And I do remember after Spygate, that was when Bellichick ran up the score on a bunch of teams, with Brady throwing bombs and running the hurry-up offense when the Patriots were up 42-7 in the 4th, pedal to the metal all the way....Bellichick was mad and sending the league a message. If this gets him mad enough, I would really look forward to seeing Payton doing some of that next year, instead of that gentlemanly running the ball and "taking a knee on the 20" thing that he does at the end of games.

03-03-2012, 03:59 PM	#2
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Thanks Mike i didn't know that. Sad Day in Saints history. CharityMike likes this.

03-03-2012, 05:24 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Originally Posted by QBREES9 Thanks Mike i didn't know that. Sad Day in Saints history. Why is this sad? It's no big deal.

03-03-2012, 04:12 PM	#4
vtiger72 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 185	Originally Posted by Jankman8 Well Brees got the Tag now, so we probably have to say goodbye to Nicks, Colston, Porter and Meacham, at least to some of them. If you ask me we try to sign as many players as we can to a short deal, see if we can win it next year and if we don´t win it we have to start rebuilding. Supberbowl in 2014 will be outside in New York, where we don´t have a shot with the current team anyway. SO I say go all in after guys like Moss, Ward and other players that got released. Redo the Passrush with young guns like Galette and Romeos and rebuild the team. If we don´t win it next year bye bye Brees - this is a tough one, but I think the right move - bye bye Vilma and so on! We need a longterm contract for Jimmy #80 Graham I doubt the Saints have to say goodbye to all those players. Colston and Nicks will be tough to fit under the cap, but Porter and Meachum could easily return- especially if no Colston on Nicks.
vtiger72 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 185

03-03-2012, 05:26 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Originally Posted by Style I know I read somewhere on this board that a tagged could be reused if the which a deal before FA. So don't the still have till Monday to reach a deal? No. A tag can only be reused if the player is signed by another team. The tag is dead if the tagged player is either released from the tag or if the player signs a multiyear deal.

03-03-2012, 06:06 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Originally Posted by Byubengal I refuse to believe that this is the start of the downfall. The Saints and us fans lived thru 42 years of worse than this. As the saying goes what does not kill you will make you stronger. I think we will get through this and surprise a few people with whatever team we put on the field. Keep the Faith and remember tomorrow is a new day. Yup. And remember the Patriots and their "Spygate" year when they lost their #1 pick? 18-0 going into the Super Bowl. Rickh likes this.

03-03-2012, 06:50 PM	#1
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Originally Posted by Jankman8 I do hope so, I´m just sayin... I don´t want the Saints to pay Nicks elite money and spend half their franchise on two Guards. That was just a plan b) I wouldn't have a problem with them giving Nicks the same contract as Evans + 1M to cover the inflation like he stated that he wanted - if the contract was end loaded it wouldn't matter because the cap is going to rise in two years and Nicks' contract would raise the contracts for other guards around the league hurting other teams as well.

03-03-2012, 05:22 PM	#5
Style Registered Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: DeRidder La. Posts: 44	I know I read somewhere on this board that a tagged could be reused if the which a deal before FA. So don't the still have till Monday to reach a deal?

03-03-2012, 05:36 PM	#7
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	The only thing that I am worried about is the bounty crap. Everything else is secondary. The bounty probably changed our plans about negotiations. Let's see how well Loomis can do with everything he's juggling.

03-03-2012, 06:04 PM	#8
Byubengal Registered Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Summerville, South Carolina Posts: 44	I refuse to believe that this is the start of the downfall. The Saints and us fans lived thru 42 years of worse than this. As the saying goes what does not kill you will make you stronger. I think we will get through this and surprise a few people with whatever team we put on the field. Keep the Faith and remember tomorrow is a new day.

03-04-2012, 02:46 PM	#10
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Byubengal I refuse to believe that this is the start of the downfall. The Saints and us fans lived thru 42 years of worse than this. As the saying goes what does not kill you will make you stronger. I think we will get through this and surprise a few people with whatever team we put on the field. Keep the Faith and remember tomorrow is a new day. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yup. And remember the Patriots and their "Spygate" year when they lost their #1 pick? 18-0 going into the Super Bowl. Exactly my thoughts as well. And I do remember after Spygate, that was when Bellichick ran up the score on a bunch of teams, with Brady throwing bombs and running the hurry-up offense when the Patriots were up 42-7 in the 4th, pedal to the metal all the way....Bellichick was mad and sending the league a message. If this gets him mad enough, I would really look forward to seeing Payton doing some of that next year, instead of that gentlemanly running the ball and "taking a knee on the 20" thing that he does at the end of games.

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