did Brees know about the bounties?

alleycat_126 · 03-04-2012, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Why is noone talking about Gregg Williams punishment in all this. Imo he should have to take the brunt of the backlash. Hopefully one reason we didnt try to retain him was because of this

Shawn really made nice with the media on Greg's behalf, I'm more sure now than ever that his services wouldn't have been retained as DC in the N.O.

He will probably be released or fired Goddell is gonna come down as hard as the media claims he is.

JPPT1974 · 03-04-2012, 02:35 PM

Surely being one of the team leaders, Brees had to know about it. But unfortunately people like him didn't go out of their way and stopped it. As they should had.

AsylumGuido · 03-04-2012, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by JPPT1974

Surely being one of the team leaders, Brees had to know about it. But unfortunately people like him didn't go out of their way and stopped it. As they should had.

Perhaps none of them saw anything wrong with it as it happens everywhere. The part that is getting blown out of proportion is this "paying to injure" crap. Players get knocked out of games every day. It is part of the game. One of the payouts was if it happened on a player in the contest's hit.

It was against the rules and they "shouldn't" have done it ... but, things go on in every play in the game that is against the rules and "shouldn't" be done.

This is the liberal media blowing this all out of proportion.

Danno · 03-04-2012, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This is the liberal media blowing this all out of proportion.

Nawww, the liberal media would NEVER blow anything out of proportion would they?

AsylumGuido · 03-04-2012, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Nawww, the liberal media would NEVER blow anything out of proportion would they?

I withhold further comment having once been a member of said media.

Halo · 03-04-2012, 03:02 PM

I've changed my mind. Knowing that what they were doing was ILLEGAL, I'm sure the defensive staff and players weren't just going around and BRAGGING about it whenever possible.

So, honestly, it's possible nobody knew except for GW and the defensive players involved.

AsylumGuido · 03-04-2012, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

I've changed my mind. Knowing that what they were doing was ILLEGAL, I'm sure the defensive staff and players weren't just going around and BRAGGING about it whenever possible.

So, honestly, it's possible nobody knew except for GW and the defensive players involved.

This is true. Defensive players meet on their own.

Halo · 03-04-2012, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This is true. Defensive players meet on their own.

It's also possible only the defensive players who were actually involved in the scheme actually knew about it.

As for Loomis, I'm so sure he was going to waste all his time on an internal investigation. Probably spoke to GW and he denied it.

The more I think of it, I'm putting the blame on Gregg Williams as he was pretty much given total control of the defense.

AND ... if the Bounty was going on in 2011, then how effective is it?
There must have been a LOT of money left in that pool of money after 2011... the defense really didn't knock too many players out all season long.

alleycat_126 · 03-04-2012, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

AND ... if the Bounty was going on in 2011, then how effective is it?
There must have been a LOT of money left in that pool of money after 2011... the defense really didn't knock too many players out all season long.

Three years, yes there were some painful hits to consider rendered by us.

Sharper anialates Kevin Faulk 09.
Warner vs McCray 09 ( deemed legal at the time ) by the way probably un called for given the final score.
Farve all day ( This is probably the one with the most scrutiny )

But three years I don't remember seeing any stretchers, or is it just me.
( Tracy Porter, and Courtney Roby ) any body else.

FinSaint · 03-04-2012, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

Three years, yes there were some painful hits to consider rendered by us.

Sharper anialates Kevin Faulk 09.
Warner vs McCray 09 ( deemed legal at the time ) by the way probably un called for given the final score.
Farve all day ( This is probably the one with the most scrutiny )

But three years I don't remember seeing any stretchers, or is it just me.
( Tracy Porter, and Courtney Roby ) any body else.

I wonder if it was considered a "stretcher hit" if the hit caused the Saint player to injure himself in the process?

Maybe that is why they had to write down the rules - in order to avoid these gray areas?

03-04-2012, 03:47 PM	#1
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Originally Posted by The Dude Why is noone talking about Gregg Williams punishment in all this. Imo he should have to take the brunt of the backlash. Hopefully one reason we didnt try to retain him was because of this Shawn really made nice with the media on Greg's behalf, I'm more sure now than ever that his services wouldn't have been retained as DC in the N.O. He will probably be released or fired Goddell is gonna come down as hard as the media claims he is.

03-04-2012, 02:35 PM	#2
JPPT1974 June is Here Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 406	Surely being one of the team leaders, Brees had to know about it. But unfortunately people like him didn't go out of their way and stopped it. As they should had.
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03-04-2012, 02:48 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,703	Originally Posted by JPPT1974 Surely being one of the team leaders, Brees had to know about it. But unfortunately people like him didn't go out of their way and stopped it. As they should had. Perhaps none of them saw anything wrong with it as it happens everywhere. The part that is getting blown out of proportion is this "paying to injure" crap. Players get knocked out of games every day. It is part of the game. One of the payouts was if it happened on a player in the contest's hit. It was against the rules and they "shouldn't" have done it ... but, things go on in every play in the game that is against the rules and "shouldn't" be done. This is the liberal media blowing this all out of proportion. iceshack149 and jlouhill like this.

03-04-2012, 02:49 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This is the liberal media blowing this all out of proportion. Nawww, the liberal media would NEVER blow anything out of proportion would they? SmashMouth likes this.

03-04-2012, 02:53 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,703	Originally Posted by Danno Nawww, the liberal media would NEVER blow anything out of proportion would they? I withhold further comment having once been a member of said media.

03-04-2012, 03:02 PM	#6
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,902 Blog Entries: 45	I've changed my mind. Knowing that what they were doing was ILLEGAL, I'm sure the defensive staff and players weren't just going around and BRAGGING about it whenever possible. So, honestly, it's possible nobody knew except for GW and the defensive players involved.

03-04-2012, 03:07 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,703	Originally Posted by Halo I've changed my mind. Knowing that what they were doing was ILLEGAL, I'm sure the defensive staff and players weren't just going around and BRAGGING about it whenever possible. So, honestly, it's possible nobody knew except for GW and the defensive players involved. This is true. Defensive players meet on their own.

03-04-2012, 03:13 PM	#8
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,902 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This is true. Defensive players meet on their own. It's also possible only the defensive players who were actually involved in the scheme actually knew about it. As for Loomis, I'm so sure he was going to waste all his time on an internal investigation. Probably spoke to GW and he denied it. The more I think of it, I'm putting the blame on Gregg Williams as he was pretty much given total control of the defense. AND ... if the Bounty was going on in 2011, then how effective is it? There must have been a LOT of money left in that pool of money after 2011... the defense really didn't knock too many players out all season long.
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03-04-2012, 03:53 PM	#9
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Originally Posted by Halo AND ... if the Bounty was going on in 2011, then how effective is it? There must have been a LOT of money left in that pool of money after 2011... the defense really didn't knock too many players out all season long. Three years, yes there were some painful hits to consider rendered by us. Sharper anialates Kevin Faulk 09. Warner vs McCray 09 ( deemed legal at the time ) by the way probably un called for given the final score. Farve all day ( This is probably the one with the most scrutiny ) But three years I don't remember seeing any stretchers, or is it just me. ( Tracy Porter, and Courtney Roby ) any body else.

03-04-2012, 03:57 PM	#10
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Originally Posted by alleycat_126 Three years, yes there were some painful hits to consider rendered by us. Sharper anialates Kevin Faulk 09. Warner vs McCray 09 ( deemed legal at the time ) by the way probably un called for given the final score. Farve all day ( This is probably the one with the most scrutiny ) But three years I don't remember seeing any stretchers, or is it just me. ( Tracy Porter, and Courtney Roby ) any body else. I wonder if it was considered a "stretcher hit" if the hit caused the Saint player to injure himself in the process? Maybe that is why they had to write down the rules - in order to avoid these gray areas?

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