OK this is getting out of hand

arsaint · 03-05-2012, 04:27 PM

This speculation by the media is idiotic.

What are they going to do, suspend half the D for a season and have Payton and Loomis fired?

If we are proven to have done something wrong (and it sounds like we did), then chunk out some fines or take some draft picks, but after that give it a freaking rest.

Hell, some of these people would not be satisfied until Goodell disbands the team.

I think we know why Brees wants 69 million the first 3 years now - he's expecting to get killed as a reprecussion from all this crap...

TheEnigma · 03-05-2012, 04:31 PM

I hate to say this, but I don't see this ending well for us. I have been hearing that the consequences from this will be heavy. I hope I am wrong, but knowing how Goodell is, he is not going to just let this slide.

arsaint · 03-05-2012, 04:36 PM

I hear that too, and I sure it will be more than any of us want to see, but where does it end?

Do we get in a situation when 5, 7, 9 or all of our starters are suspended half or all of the season?

There is punishment, and then there is just plain DESTROYING a franchise.

You're going to tell me (Goodell) that the Niners never did this? The Ravens? Steelers? Etc?

I'm fine with the Saints having to pay the piper for this, but it needs to be somewhat reasonable.

RockyMountainSaint · 03-05-2012, 04:38 PM

The power center wants us ignorant, small market losers to know our place.

How dare the "Aints" have the temerity to win a Super Bowl?

Super Bowls are reserved for the "Elite" teams. Not us "hicks".

saintfan · 03-05-2012, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

How dare the "Aints" have the temerity to win a Super Bowl?

Temerity? Points for you sir!

SloMotion · 03-05-2012, 04:46 PM

You think the media's out of hand, how about the speculation and BS being posted by visiting B&G members on their homeboards? I'm sick of the two-faced garbage, lurk around here and then go back to your board and troll.

These are members of this board. Check out the visitor messages on their profiles, I posted some of their quotes from another board on how they think Saints fans are "nutty", support injuring other players, what a POS team the Saints are and how the league should deal with them.

http://blackandgold.com/members/lionsfan-54/

http://blackandgold.com/members/jokeray/

I'm sorry, but it just ain't right ... Black and Gold deserves better ... much better.

RockyMountainSaint · 03-05-2012, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Temerity? Points for you sir!

Just for the rest of the "hicks" who don't have command of the English language, because they don't live on the "favored" coasts.

GULF COAST BIT**ES!
Temerity | Define Temerity at Dictionary.com

RockyMountainSaint · 03-05-2012, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

You think the media's out of hand, how about the speculation and BS being posted by visiting B&G members on their homeboards? I'm sick of the two-faced garbage, lurk around here and then go back to your board and troll.

These are members of this board. Check out the visitor messages on their profiles, I posted some of their quotes from another board on how they think Saints fans are "nutty", support injuring other players, what a POS team the Saints are and how the league should deal with them.

http://blackandgold.com/members/lionsfan-54/

http://blackandgold.com/members/jokeray/

I'm sorry, but it just ain't right ... Black and Gold deserves better ... much better.

RAT!!!!!!!!!!

j/k SloMo! You da man!

jokeray · 03-05-2012, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

You think the media's out of hand, how about the speculation and BS being posted by visiting B&G members on their homeboards? I'm sick of the two-faced garbage, lurk around here and then go back to your board and troll.

These are members of this board. Check out the visitor messages on their profiles, I posted some of their quotes from another board on how they think Saints fans are "nutty", support injuring other players, what a POS team the Saints are and how the league should deal with them.

http://blackandgold.com/members/lionsfan-54/

http://blackandgold.com/members/jokeray/

I'm sorry, but it just ain't right ... Black and Gold deserves better ... much better.

For the record, c'mon over and see exactly what I said, not what my FRIEND SloMo is twisting my words to be.

Here is EXACTLY what I said on the Lions boards:

In Response to Re: New Orlean Saints "Bounty" Controversy:

I like the Saints fans, but some of them are going a bit nutty over on their message boards trying to defend this. plenty of talk about Suh Stomp, and Spygate. I'm fine with big hits, I'm fine with incentives for fumbles, int's, and forced fumbles. Cannot be ok with money for injuring another person.
Posted by Jokeray

In my defense, some of you are a little nutty in the defense of this, in my opinion. Did you see the part where I also said I liked you guys, right there at the start of my post? And I didn't say you are all nutty, hjust some.

All teams have some nutty fans, hell, us Lions fans have a guy NAMED Sean Payton that called in bomb threats because the saints were beating us so bad. Doesn't mean all fans of that team needs to be judged by the few bad apples.

Cheers. (Nice try, Smolo.....but not really)

arsaint · 03-05-2012, 04:59 PM

1) Fine the organization
2) Take away the 2013 1st rounder
3) Fine any Saints coaches / staff involved
4) Do whatever with Gregg Williams since this isn't his 1st rodeo with this.
5) Call it a day

Really, I go back to this - are you going to suspend our entire defense?

Do we get Will Smith and Sedrick Ellis on odd weeks and Jordan and Franklin on evens?

There comes a point where this could easily go from punishing the participants to killing a franchise.

03-05-2012, 04:27 PM	#1
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,705	OK this is getting out of hand This speculation by the media is idiotic. What are they going to do, suspend half the D for a season and have Payton and Loomis fired? If we are proven to have done something wrong (and it sounds like we did), then chunk out some fines or take some draft picks, but after that give it a freaking rest. Hell, some of these people would not be satisfied until Goodell disbands the team. I think we know why Brees wants 69 million the first 3 years now - he's expecting to get killed as a reprecussion from all this crap...

03-05-2012, 04:31 PM	#2
TheEnigma 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 711	I hate to say this, but I don't see this ending well for us. I have been hearing that the consequences from this will be heavy. I hope I am wrong, but knowing how Goodell is, he is not going to just let this slide.
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03-05-2012, 04:36 PM	#3
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,705	I hear that too, and I sure it will be more than any of us want to see, but where does it end? Do we get in a situation when 5, 7, 9 or all of our starters are suspended half or all of the season? There is punishment, and then there is just plain DESTROYING a franchise. You're going to tell me (Goodell) that the Niners never did this? The Ravens? Steelers? Etc? I'm fine with the Saints having to pay the piper for this, but it needs to be somewhat reasonable. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

03-05-2012, 04:38 PM	#4
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	The power center wants us ignorant, small market losers to know our place. How dare the "Aints" have the temerity to win a Super Bowl? Super Bowls are reserved for the "Elite" teams. Not us "hicks". saintfan likes this.

03-05-2012, 04:41 PM	#5
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint How dare the "Aints" have the temerity to win a Super Bowl? Temerity? Points for you sir! RockyMountainSaint likes this.

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03-05-2012, 04:46 PM	#6
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	You think the media's out of hand, how about the speculation and BS being posted by visiting B&G members on their homeboards? I'm sick of the two-faced garbage, lurk around here and then go back to your board and troll. These are members of this board. Check out the visitor messages on their profiles, I posted some of their quotes from another board on how they think Saints fans are "nutty", support injuring other players, what a POS team the Saints are and how the league should deal with them. http://blackandgold.com/members/lionsfan-54/ http://blackandgold.com/members/jokeray/ I'm sorry, but it just ain't right ... Black and Gold deserves better ... much better. jokeray likes this.

03-05-2012, 04:48 PM	#7
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Originally Posted by saintfan Temerity? Points for you sir! Just for the rest of the "hicks" who don't have command of the English language, because they don't live on the "favored" coasts. GULF COAST BIT**ES! Temerity \| Define Temerity at Dictionary.com

03-05-2012, 04:50 PM	#8
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Originally Posted by SloMotion You think the media's out of hand, how about the speculation and BS being posted by visiting B&G members on their homeboards? I'm sick of the two-faced garbage, lurk around here and then go back to your board and troll. These are members of this board. Check out the visitor messages on their profiles, I posted some of their quotes from another board on how they think Saints fans are "nutty", support injuring other players, what a POS team the Saints are and how the league should deal with them. http://blackandgold.com/members/lionsfan-54/ http://blackandgold.com/members/jokeray/ I'm sorry, but it just ain't right ... Black and Gold deserves better ... much better. RAT!!!!!!!!!! j/k SloMo! You da man! jokeray likes this.

03-05-2012, 04:54 PM	#9
jokeray Jackwagon! Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 211	Originally Posted by SloMotion You think the media's out of hand, how about the speculation and BS being posted by visiting B&G members on their homeboards? I'm sick of the two-faced garbage, lurk around here and then go back to your board and troll. These are members of this board. Check out the visitor messages on their profiles, I posted some of their quotes from another board on how they think Saints fans are "nutty", support injuring other players, what a POS team the Saints are and how the league should deal with them. http://blackandgold.com/members/lionsfan-54/ http://blackandgold.com/members/jokeray/ I'm sorry, but it just ain't right ... Black and Gold deserves better ... much better. For the record, c'mon over and see exactly what I said, not what my FRIEND SloMo is twisting my words to be. Here is EXACTLY what I said on the Lions boards: In Response to Re: New Orlean Saints "Bounty" Controversy: I like the Saints fans, but some of them are going a bit nutty over on their message boards trying to defend this. plenty of talk about Suh Stomp, and Spygate. I'm fine with big hits, I'm fine with incentives for fumbles, int's, and forced fumbles. Cannot be ok with money for injuring another person. Posted by Jokeray In my defense, some of you are a little nutty in the defense of this, in my opinion. Did you see the part where I also said I liked you guys, right there at the start of my post? And I didn't say you are all nutty, hjust some. All teams have some nutty fans, hell, us Lions fans have a guy NAMED Sean Payton that called in bomb threats because the saints were beating us so bad. Doesn't mean all fans of that team needs to be judged by the few bad apples. Cheers. (Nice try, Smolo.....but not really)
jokeray Jackwagon! Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 211	It's all GOOD!

03-05-2012, 04:59 PM	#10
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,705	1) Fine the organization 2) Take away the 2013 1st rounder 3) Fine any Saints coaches / staff involved 4) Do whatever with Gregg Williams since this isn't his 1st rodeo with this. 5) Call it a day Really, I go back to this - are you going to suspend our entire defense? Do we get Will Smith and Sedrick Ellis on odd weeks and Jordan and Franklin on evens? There comes a point where this could easily go from punishing the participants to killing a franchise. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

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