There's only 7 wide receivers in the HOF who started their careers after 1970. Only two were first ballot Largent and Rice.

Irvin got rejected once, Tim Brown and Andre Reed also have been rejected.

Moss is not first ballot. I don't care what his stats say. WR's aren't respected by voters for the HOF.

Fact.

Irvin, Brown, & Reed never put up the numbers Moss has. Neither did Largent. That's just a dumb argument. Fact is....only Jerry Rice holds trump over Moss as a wide receiver, and he played in his forties. If you really believe Moss is not 1st ballot material, you're fooling yourself or you don't know football! Even Michael Irvin himself said Moss should be a 1st ballot Hall of Famer & that compared to Rice & himself who always had great QB's......Moss played for average QB's at best most of his career. Stop hating on the guy!!!

I'm not hating on Moss I simply said he isn't first ballot. To say I don't know football - there's no reason to disrespect someone like that because they simply don't agree with your opinion.

A lot of his issues the past couple seasons with half assing routes, his character problems and such, will hurt him.

Moss is a second ballot WR in my due to the fact of the issues I've stated and there only being two first ballot WR's since 1970. The odds aren't in his favor.

In no way did I say his numbers weren't impressive or first ballot worthy, nor did I say he wasn't credible. I'm aware of the QBs he has played with.

There's no need to say I'm fooling myself or don't know football. Relax buddy.

No one was trying to disrespect you. When a guy already has numbers such as that (2nd best WR numbers all time) & he's obviously not done. Why on earth would he not be a 1st ballot Hall of Famer? Off the field issues? No ring? That's like saying Ray Lewis won't be 1st ballot because he was investigated for a murder or Marino shouldn't have been 1st ballot because he didn't get a ring. It doesn't make sense. I know WR's are generally overlooked by voters, but this guy dominated the league for over a decade.

Hall of Fame voters are picky. I just believe personally between his character issues and how his reputation has been through his whole career (half assing routes is nothing new), it may hurt him even with the numbers. I don't have a vote and if I did, I'd vote him in first ballot. I just don't think they'll do it. If he does, congrats to him, he deserves it.

As far as your report, I'm telling you that WWL, NBC Sports, and numerous media outlets have confirmed he did not run the 40.

I even confirmed it myself with the Times-Picayune and Jay Glazer.

Moss didn

Every single rumor about the 40 being ran is directed to SportsNOLA.com No idea who their source was, but I believe PFT more than that website, considering they actually have more sources being a national media place.

Furthermore as I have stated, the time they said he ran is the exact rumored time that was said he ran before the work out.

Trust me on this one, I wouldn't downplay him.

Well.....if Glazer says it didn't happen, I believe that. He's generally on point.

As for Moss's bad play, well....like I mentioned before, who wants to wear themselves out every down with Daunte Culpepper, Aaron Brooks, & Vince Young. I'm not saying it's right. Just saying I understand. Culpepper had a few good years & that's it. Aaron Brooks sucked! We, as Saints fans, all know that. And Vince Young......well, see the Aaron Brooks comment. Now.....I know Moss received alot of bad publicity for "playing when he wanted to", but tell me......did you ever see him take a play off with Warren Moon, Tom Brady, or even Culpepper in his good days??? Brooks & Young are team killers that bring everyone down, because they suck. I can understand Moss's lack of enthusiasm in that regard. The point is......you give this guy Brees as his QB, a chance at a ring, & a chance to change people's opinion of him.........I would be willing to bet the house Randy Moss would give his all. That said, could you imagine what Drew Brees could do with a guy that runs the 9 route like Moss added to the mix? I'll stop there.

Also, he's quit on the Patriots and Brady before, that's why he got the boot if I'm not mistaken.