Quarterbacks top this first mock draft

pakowitz · 04-05-2004, 07:39 PM

By Pat Kirwan
NFL.com Senior Analyst

(April 4, 2004) -- With three weeks to go to the annual NFL draft, lots of things can change. But it's time to put my first mock draft up on NFL.com.

I will revise this at least two times before the draft based on conversations I have around the league, late workout results, potential trades and, of course, any late free-agent signings that will influence a club's needs.

1. SAN DIEGO -- ELI MANNING, QB. I'm not convinced San Diego will make this selection but I do feel someone who wants Manning will come to this spot to get him. Down the stretch, quarterbacks like Manning win in the draft rooms

for the rest of this mock draft click here:

http://nfl.com/draft/story/7232005

Boogro · 04-05-2004, 08:48 PM

No way we draft Starks over Vilma

Euphoria · 04-05-2004, 09:33 PM

I agree with you or even DJ Williams... its obvious that Pat Kirwan isn\'t aware of FA signings...

Danno · 04-06-2004, 07:57 AM

I wouldn\'t totally lose my lunch over the Starks pick, but only if Vilma, Hall and Robinson are gone.
A stud DT is NEVER a bad pick.
If we picked up a CB and LB in the 2nd, like a Donterrious Thomas/ Keith Smith I\'d give us an overall 2 round grade of C.
Wouldn\'t be happy, but wouldn\'t be mad either.

But you are right, if Vilma, Hall or Robinson ARE there, and we pick Starks, I\'ll come fricking unglued!

turbo_dog · 04-06-2004, 02:57 PM

I wouldn\'t be too surprised if we took Starks, but only if Vilma/Hall/Robinson weren\'t there. Remember how proud Haslett was of the \"heavy lunch bunch\" before the season? He may think they were just too old and still want to prove himself right.

turbo_dog · 04-06-2004, 03:08 PM

I have to confess, I\'ve never seen Steven Jackson play. I\'ve never even seen highlights. But from everything I\'ve heard he is not a top five talent.

I have seen Sean Taylor play almost every game last year. He is a top five talent without question. The guy is everywhere on the football field. How can this mock draft have him going at number twelve? If that happens, there will be some regretful coaches next year.

Boogro · 04-06-2004, 06:00 PM

I have to confess, I\'ve never seen Steven Jackson play. I\'ve never even seen highlights. But from everything I\'ve heard he is not a top five talent.

I have seen Sean Taylor play almost every game last year. He is a top five talent without question. The guy is everywhere on the football field. How can this mock draft have him going at number twelve? If that happens, there will be some regretful coaches next year.

Well, they probably had Sean Taylor falling because of an average Pro Day workout instead of just being a great football player. Maybe these guys just took his workouts too much into perspective instead looking back at how well he plays on the field. It is possible he can drop down a few spots. Especially if teams fall in love with other players and there\'s all these trades going on. The draft is so unpredictable nowadays, it\'s unbelieveable.

04-05-2004, 07:39 PM	#1
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Quarterbacks top this first mock draft By Pat Kirwan NFL.com Senior Analyst (April 4, 2004) -- With three weeks to go to the annual NFL draft, lots of things can change. But it's time to put my first mock draft up on NFL.com. I will revise this at least two times before the draft based on conversations I have around the league, late workout results, potential trades and, of course, any late free-agent signings that will influence a club's needs. 1. SAN DIEGO -- ELI MANNING, QB. I'm not convinced San Diego will make this selection but I do feel someone who wants Manning will come to this spot to get him. Down the stretch, quarterbacks like Manning win in the draft rooms for the rest of this mock draft click here: http://nfl.com/draft/story/7232005

04-05-2004, 08:48 PM	#2
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	Quarterbacks top this first mock draft No way we draft Starks over Vilma

04-05-2004, 09:33 PM	#3
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Quarterbacks top this first mock draft I agree with you or even DJ Williams... its obvious that Pat Kirwan isn\'t aware of FA signings...

04-06-2004, 07:57 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Quarterbacks top this first mock draft I wouldn\'t totally lose my lunch over the Starks pick, but only if Vilma, Hall and Robinson are gone. A stud DT is NEVER a bad pick. If we picked up a CB and LB in the 2nd, like a Donterrious Thomas/ Keith Smith I\'d give us an overall 2 round grade of C. Wouldn\'t be happy, but wouldn\'t be mad either. But you are right, if Vilma, Hall or Robinson ARE there, and we pick Starks, I\'ll come fricking unglued!

04-06-2004, 02:57 PM	#5
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Quarterbacks top this first mock draft I wouldn\'t be too surprised if we took Starks, but only if Vilma/Hall/Robinson weren\'t there. Remember how proud Haslett was of the \"heavy lunch bunch\" before the season? He may think they were just too old and still want to prove himself right.

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04-06-2004, 03:08 PM	#6
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	Quarterbacks top this first mock draft I have to confess, I\'ve never seen Steven Jackson play. I\'ve never even seen highlights. But from everything I\'ve heard he is not a top five talent. I have seen Sean Taylor play almost every game last year. He is a top five talent without question. The guy is everywhere on the football field. How can this mock draft have him going at number twelve? If that happens, there will be some regretful coaches next year.

04-06-2004, 06:00 PM	#7
Boogro Nose Digger Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 341	Quarterbacks top this first mock draft I have to confess, I\'ve never seen Steven Jackson play. I\'ve never even seen highlights. But from everything I\'ve heard he is not a top five talent. I have seen Sean Taylor play almost every game last year. He is a top five talent without question. The guy is everywhere on the football field. How can this mock draft have him going at number twelve? If that happens, there will be some regretful coaches next year. Well, they probably had Sean Taylor falling because of an average Pro Day workout instead of just being a great football player. Maybe these guys just took his workouts too much into perspective instead looking back at how well he plays on the field. It is possible he can drop down a few spots. Especially if teams fall in love with other players and there\'s all these trades going on. The draft is so unpredictable nowadays, it\'s unbelieveable.