Who here still has faith in Brees

The Dude · 03-09-2012, 01:24 AM

With all the "Brees is greedy" threads I want to say for the record I do. I think a lot of people here and on other message boards will be eating crow once this all shakes out. I want to officially state that I am still behind Drew 100%. Who else is in? You guys are all speculating and judging Drew before we know the facts.

goguxxx · 03-09-2012, 02:02 AM

I too support Brees, BUT lets not forget who lead the NFLPA on last seasons lockout . I expect him to do something radical,like holding back in training camp and forcing the Saints to trade him if he doesnt get the money he wants.If he had the balls to stop an entire season of football,he can handle one team...

MatthewT · 03-09-2012, 02:03 AM

Just good old fashion contract negotiations. Give this thing some time to shake out. Believe me, if push comes to shove, Tom Benson will step in and resolve the matter. Brees is a team first guy, he is also probably working on the last contract of his career, he needs to make it count! In the end Brees will be with the Saints, and will be the highest paid player in the NFL.

The Dude · 03-09-2012, 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by goguxxx

I too support Brees, BUT lets not forget who lead the NFLPA on last seasons lockout . I expect him to do something radical,like holding back in training camp and forcing the Saints to trade him if he doesnt get the money he wants.If he had the balls to stop an entire season of football,he can handle one team...

While I sorta agree with some of the stuff you said compairing his contract to the lockout negotiations are apples and oranges. During the lockout he was a face that represented the entire NFL players assoc along with other players in the league or past. Here he is simply negotiating his contract. It happened the same way with Manning. It takes time to get these things done and he knows it. We are sweating this a lot more than either Brees or the FO.

SaintGup · 03-09-2012, 03:07 AM

I'm not 100% sure about this so enlighten me if I am wrong, but didn't Brees have a back-loaded contract with the Chargers and when he got injured, that was it. He lost a lot of money because of how it was structured. If that is the case, wouldn't he be stupid not to try and get a deal where the money came in the early years in case it happened again? Once bitten and all that. I am 100% behind Brees and it suprises me that more people aren't waiting to see how things are before making decisions about the man. Also, and I have been trying to get an answer for this;when did the offer last year happen? I never heard or saw a thing about it but people are saying he was offered a big deal last year.

skymike · 03-09-2012, 07:38 AM

I honestly dont know. You can tell me this and that, but here's what I know:

1. Im have season tickets and travel 5 or 6 hrs. each game to watch the saints. its expensive, but its been part of my life.

2. Brees turned down a $30 million $$ signing bonus.

3. I just paid $75 to fill up my tank. $75 is still a lot of money to me.

4. apparently, we live in different worlds.

FinSaint · 03-09-2012, 08:17 AM

I support Brees, but at the same time I see no harm in debating the issue and exploring all the alternatives.

Just as you state that we don't have all the facts to deem that Brees' side has been solely pursuing self interest over team interest - that same lack of facts doesn't allow us to know that he has an intent to work it all out in the end.

Therefore, I welcome the speculation going both ways, and that is what these boards are for in the end - not to serve as evidence to judge later on who was right and who was wrong.

dizzle88 · 03-09-2012, 08:23 AM

I still have faith in brees, but I've also lost a lot of respect for him this offseason

CharityMike · 03-09-2012, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I still have faith in brees, but I've also lost a lot of respect for him this offseason

^^This^^

I can understand the man wanting to GET PAID but what they were asking for is not feasable at the moment. I like AG's theory that this was all a ploy to not have Knicks tagged. It forced our hand on the issue and it just suckes to realize how much influence an agent can have on a franchise.

Danno · 03-09-2012, 08:43 AM

I have faith in Brees regardless of whether or not he's being selfish or greedy about his contract.

He's a top 3 QB and a stand up guy, but too many people think he's a perfect angel which bothers me, so I do play devil's advocate quite a bit with this whole contract situation.

03-09-2012, 01:24 AM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Who here still has faith in Brees With all the "Brees is greedy" threads I want to say for the record I do. I think a lot of people here and on other message boards will be eating crow once this all shakes out. I want to officially state that I am still behind Drew 100%. Who else is in? You guys are all speculating and judging Drew before we know the facts. MatthewT, AsylumGuido, SaintGup and 1 others like this.
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03-09-2012, 02:03 AM	#3
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Just good old fashion contract negotiations. Give this thing some time to shake out. Believe me, if push comes to shove, Tom Benson will step in and resolve the matter. Brees is a team first guy, he is also probably working on the last contract of his career, he needs to make it count! In the end Brees will be with the Saints, and will be the highest paid player in the NFL. SloMotion likes this.

03-09-2012, 02:27 AM	#4
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Originally Posted by goguxxx I too support Brees, BUT lets not forget who lead the NFLPA on last seasons lockout . I expect him to do something radical,like holding back in training camp and forcing the Saints to trade him if he doesnt get the money he wants.If he had the balls to stop an entire season of football,he can handle one team... While I sorta agree with some of the stuff you said compairing his contract to the lockout negotiations are apples and oranges. During the lockout he was a face that represented the entire NFL players assoc along with other players in the league or past. Here he is simply negotiating his contract. It happened the same way with Manning. It takes time to get these things done and he knows it. We are sweating this a lot more than either Brees or the FO.
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03-09-2012, 07:38 AM	#6
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	I honestly dont know. You can tell me this and that, but here's what I know: 1. Im have season tickets and travel 5 or 6 hrs. each game to watch the saints. its expensive, but its been part of my life. 2. Brees turned down a $30 million $$ signing bonus. 3. I just paid $75 to fill up my tank. $75 is still a lot of money to me. 4. apparently, we live in different worlds. SapperSaint and dizzle88 like this.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	I support Brees, but at the same time I see no harm in debating the issue and exploring all the alternatives. Just as you state that we don't have all the facts to deem that Brees' side has been solely pursuing self interest over team interest - that same lack of facts doesn't allow us to know that he has an intent to work it all out in the end. Therefore, I welcome the speculation going both ways, and that is what these boards are for in the end - not to serve as evidence to judge later on who was right and who was wrong.
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03-09-2012, 02:02 AM	#2
goguxxx Registered Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Romania Posts: 63	I too support Brees, BUT lets not forget who lead the NFLPA on last seasons lockout . I expect him to do something radical,like holding back in training camp and forcing the Saints to trade him if he doesnt get the money he wants.If he had the balls to stop an entire season of football,he can handle one team...

03-09-2012, 03:07 AM	#5
SaintGup 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London, England Posts: 580	I'm not 100% sure about this so enlighten me if I am wrong, but didn't Brees have a back-loaded contract with the Chargers and when he got injured, that was it. He lost a lot of money because of how it was structured. If that is the case, wouldn't he be stupid not to try and get a deal where the money came in the early years in case it happened again? Once bitten and all that. I am 100% behind Brees and it suprises me that more people aren't waiting to see how things are before making decisions about the man. Also, and I have been trying to get an answer for this;when did the offer last year happen? I never heard or saw a thing about it but people are saying he was offered a big deal last year.

03-09-2012, 08:23 AM	#8
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	I still have faith in brees, but I've also lost a lot of respect for him this offseason SapperSaint and CharityMike like this.

03-09-2012, 08:28 AM	#9
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by dizzle88 I still have faith in brees, but I've also lost a lot of respect for him this offseason ^^This^^ I can understand the man wanting to GET PAID but what they were asking for is not feasable at the moment. I like AG's theory that this was all a ploy to not have Knicks tagged. It forced our hand on the issue and it just suckes to realize how much influence an agent can have on a franchise.

03-09-2012, 08:43 AM	#10
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	I have faith in Brees regardless of whether or not he's being selfish or greedy about his contract. He's a top 3 QB and a stand up guy, but too many people think he's a perfect angel which bothers me, so I do play devil's advocate quite a bit with this whole contract situation. saintfan and The Dude like this.

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