Better option at CB

JimmyWalker · 03-15-2012, 05:46 PM

Just random thinking, but what if we could get Aaron Ross around or near the same price as Tracy Porter, which would you prefer?

FinSaint · 03-15-2012, 05:48 PM

Use the draft (if possible) for CB depth and use the money (if any) on the LBs and the maybe the front 4.

JimmyWalker · 03-15-2012, 05:51 PM

My concern is are we going to even have a draft after the punishments come down? We may have to end up doing a majority of our damage in Free agency depending on what the All mighty Goodell strikes upon thee

papz · 03-15-2012, 06:28 PM

I would think they would go after Bartell first if they did try to upgrade at corner. We tried to sign him away from the Rams a few years back and he's already familiar with Spag's scheme. Ross would also fit the system being from New York too... though probably more expensive.

Rugby Saint II · 03-15-2012, 06:34 PM

With or without Porter we'll be fine at CB.

alleycat_126 · 03-15-2012, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

With or without Porter we'll be fine at CB.

I don't know why you think this, We got roasted in the secondary all year long. We are severly undersized and injury prone at the corner positions. I give Jabari Greer all the credit in the world for stepping up into the role he was asked to fill, but you cannot continue to put him out on elite WRs Robinson is getting better, and Patrick is still a work in progress.

ScottF · 03-15-2012, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

I don't know why you think this, We got roasted in the secondary all year long. We are severly undersized and injury prone at the corner positions. I give Jabari Greer all the credit in the world for stepping up into the role he was asked to fill, but you cannot continue to put him out on elite WRs Robinson is getting better, and Patrick is still a work in progress.

maybe what he meant was that we won't be any worse without Porter- he epitomizes the undersized and injury players you are talking about

I just don't think the money is there this year to address CB. Of the 3 phases of our D, backfield is actually the strength (cough, cough)

|Mitch| · 03-15-2012, 08:38 PM

addressing the Line and/or LBers should help the DBs as well; assuming Spagnoula finds ways to get consistent pressure without blitzing 80+ percent of the time

Danno · 03-15-2012, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

I don't know why you think this, We got roasted in the secondary all year long. We are severly undersized and injury prone at the corner positions. I give Jabari Greer all the credit in the world for stepping up into the role he was asked to fill, but you cannot continue to put him out on elite WRs Robinson is getting better, and Patrick is still a work in progress.

We got roasted mostly because we had no pass rush. Darrell Revis and Namdi Asomagha would have gotten toasted with our pathetic and predictable pass rush last year.

Our CBs are average size. 5'-11" is almost perfect for a CB.

The top 20 prospects at CB for the 2012 draft average 5'-10 1/2"

blackangold · 03-17-2012, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

I don't know why you think this, We got roasted in the secondary all year long. We are severly undersized and injury prone at the corner positions. I give Jabari Greer all the credit in the world for stepping up into the role he was asked to fill, but you cannot continue to put him out on elite WRs Robinson is getting better, and Patrick is still a work in progress.

Really you can't put Greer on elite WR. Sorry but that's hilarious. Greer should have been a pro-bowler yet again but he got hosed. He had 18 PDs only 3 behind Revis and now we are saying he can't cover...

I guess everyone forgot how awful the pass rush was last year. Let me remind everyone the M.O of our D was to leave the DBs out to dry while sending 6-7 pass rushers and we still failed to get to the QB. You can't expect anyone to cover guys like Calvin Johnson for 5 secs man-on-man.

Our DBs are the strength of the Defense, if we had an average pass rush every DB we have would go to the pro-bowl.

03-15-2012, 05:46 PM	#1
JimmyWalker Rookie Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 18	Better option at CB Just random thinking, but what if we could get Aaron Ross around or near the same price as Tracy Porter, which would you prefer?

03-15-2012, 05:48 PM	#2
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Use the draft (if possible) for CB depth and use the money (if any) on the LBs and the maybe the front 4. Marlboro Man likes this.

03-15-2012, 07:02 PM	#6
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II With or without Porter we'll be fine at CB. I don't know why you think this, We got roasted in the secondary all year long. We are severly undersized and injury prone at the corner positions. I give Jabari Greer all the credit in the world for stepping up into the role he was asked to fill, but you cannot continue to put him out on elite WRs Robinson is getting better, and Patrick is still a work in progress.

03-15-2012, 07:42 PM	#7
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Originally Posted by alleycat_126 I don't know why you think this, We got roasted in the secondary all year long. We are severly undersized and injury prone at the corner positions. I give Jabari Greer all the credit in the world for stepping up into the role he was asked to fill, but you cannot continue to put him out on elite WRs Robinson is getting better, and Patrick is still a work in progress. maybe what he meant was that we won't be any worse without Porter- he epitomizes the undersized and injury players you are talking about I just don't think the money is there this year to address CB. Of the 3 phases of our D, backfield is actually the strength (cough, cough)

03-15-2012, 08:38 PM	#8
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	addressing the Line and/or LBers should help the DBs as well; assuming Spagnoula finds ways to get consistent pressure without blitzing 80+ percent of the time W. Kovacs likes this.

03-15-2012, 05:51 PM	#3
JimmyWalker Rookie Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 18	My concern is are we going to even have a draft after the punishments come down? We may have to end up doing a majority of our damage in Free agency depending on what the All mighty Goodell strikes upon thee

03-15-2012, 06:28 PM	#4
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	I would think they would go after Bartell first if they did try to upgrade at corner. We tried to sign him away from the Rams a few years back and he's already familiar with Spag's scheme. Ross would also fit the system being from New York too... though probably more expensive.

03-15-2012, 06:34 PM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	With or without Porter we'll be fine at CB.

03-15-2012, 09:59 PM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Originally Posted by alleycat_126 I don't know why you think this, We got roasted in the secondary all year long. We are severly undersized and injury prone at the corner positions. I give Jabari Greer all the credit in the world for stepping up into the role he was asked to fill, but you cannot continue to put him out on elite WRs Robinson is getting better, and Patrick is still a work in progress. We got roasted mostly because we had no pass rush. Darrell Revis and Namdi Asomagha would have gotten toasted with our pathetic and predictable pass rush last year. Our CBs are average size. 5'-11" is almost perfect for a CB. The top 20 prospects at CB for the 2012 draft average 5'-10 1/2" blackangold likes this.

03-17-2012, 02:39 PM	#10
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Originally Posted by alleycat_126 I don't know why you think this, We got roasted in the secondary all year long. We are severly undersized and injury prone at the corner positions. I give Jabari Greer all the credit in the world for stepping up into the role he was asked to fill, but you cannot continue to put him out on elite WRs Robinson is getting better, and Patrick is still a work in progress. Really you can't put Greer on elite WR. Sorry but that's hilarious. Greer should have been a pro-bowler yet again but he got hosed. He had 18 PDs only 3 behind Revis and now we are saying he can't cover... I guess everyone forgot how awful the pass rush was last year. Let me remind everyone the M.O of our D was to leave the DBs out to dry while sending 6-7 pass rushers and we still failed to get to the QB. You can't expect anyone to cover guys like Calvin Johnson for 5 secs man-on-man. Our DBs are the strength of the Defense, if we had an average pass rush every DB we have would go to the pro-bowl. \|Mitch\| and FinSaint like this.

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