Saints DT's

FinSaint · 03-16-2012, 05:38 PM

I really think that they should fill the DT slots with rookies if at all possible, because next off-season Ellis will be off the books, and if he doesn't have a career year - well, he won't be back for the 2013 season.

Then the Saints would have the cap to sign a dominant FA DT if that is what they need, and the rookie DTs would have a year under their belt - and Spags would have a better understanding of what the front 4 needs in order to become better.

I'd rather see this happening than them spending unnecessary money on a FA DT who ends up producing like f.e. Rogers did this past season.

Franklin with a 1-year contract for $2.5-3M would be nice, but I doubt he'd be willing to sign for that little (and another 1-year deal) at this juncture of his career - I guess it depends on how the FA DT market develops.

Danno · 03-16-2012, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I really think that they should fill the DT slots with rookies if at all possible, because next off-season Ellis will be off the books, and if he doesn't have a career year - well, he won't be back for the 2013 season.

Then the Saints would have the cap to sign a dominant FA DT if that is what they need, and the rookie DTs would have a year under their belt - and Spags would have a better understanding of what the front 4 needs in order to become better.

I'd rather see this happening than them spending unnecessary money on a FA DT who ends up producing like f.e. Rogers did this past season.

Franklin with a 1-year contract for $2.5-3M would be nice, but I doubt he'd be willing to sign for that little (and another 1-year deal) at this juncture of his career - I guess it depends on how the FA DT market develops.

I wouldn't mind a 2-3 year deal with Franklin at all. I was more impressed with him than Rogers. He's beef in the middle. We can't run nascar all game long, especially with Deangelo Williams, Michael Turner and Lagerrett Blount twice a year, not to mention we play Matt Forte, and Frank Gore as well.

FinSaint · 03-16-2012, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I wouldn't mind a 2-3 year deal with Franklin at all. I was more impressed with him than Rogers. He's beef in the middle. We can't run nascar all game long, especially with Deangelo Williams, Michael Turner and Lagerrett Blount twice a year, not to mention we play Matt Forte, and Frank Gore as well.

I'm not disagreeing, and I've been in favor of bringing Franklin back the whole time, but in general I think the "draft & groom" approach sounds so much more attracting - especially when looking at it from the future continuity perspective.

|Mitch| · 03-16-2012, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I think the "draft & groom" approach sounds so much more attracting - especially when looking at it from the future continuity perspective.

That depends on Goodell and if he lets us keep any decent draft picks this year...

FinSaint · 03-16-2012, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

That depends on Goodell and if he lets us keep any decent draft picks this year...

That is true, but I'm relying on my Magic 8-Ball which answered to my question of: "Will the Saints have draft picks in 2012" with: "You may rely on it."

Danno · 03-16-2012, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I'm not disagreeing, and I've been in favor of bringing Franklin back the whole time, but in general I think the "draft & groom" approach sounds so much more attracting - especially when looking at it from the future continuity perspective.

Sorry, I meant to preface it with "I agree".

But I do not want to pin our DT hopes on the draft.

Its a difficult position to master and we'd be foolish to depend on it. We need at least one stopgap vet.

blackangold · 03-16-2012, 09:07 PM

Cut Ellis sign Franklin back get King in the rotation as a 3rd down pass rusher then draft an early round DT (if we still have the 2nd round pick) and another small school DT in the late rounds.

jeanpierre · 03-16-2012, 09:18 PM

Use Free Agency (Franklin) to shore up your roster; then let the surprises and youth in the draft come...

Now, will we even have draft picks? Friday came and, well, still quiet...

alleycat_126 · 03-16-2012, 10:59 PM

LB's seems to be the Focus in Free Agency, which means whatever picks we have left will spent on DT's in the draft, you also have the option of moving Cam inside where I think his quickness and ability will begin to show up.

jeanpierre · 03-18-2012, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

LB's seems to be the Focus in Free Agency, which means whatever picks we have left will spent on DT's in the draft, you also have the option of moving Cam inside where I think his quickness and ability will begin to show up.

The Saints have played it smart in the past by shoring up their needs in free agency and allowing the best player available to be picked in the draft - this, along with Coach Payton/Drew Brees leadership have been the two biggest reasons for success in New Orleans...

With pending penalties that could affect draft picks as well as the unfinished business of Brees' contract - we may very well be looking at need based picks, if we have any, this season...

03-16-2012, 05:38 PM	#1
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	I really think that they should fill the DT slots with rookies if at all possible, because next off-season Ellis will be off the books, and if he doesn't have a career year - well, he won't be back for the 2013 season. Then the Saints would have the cap to sign a dominant FA DT if that is what they need, and the rookie DTs would have a year under their belt - and Spags would have a better understanding of what the front 4 needs in order to become better. I'd rather see this happening than them spending unnecessary money on a FA DT who ends up producing like f.e. Rogers did this past season. Franklin with a 1-year contract for $2.5-3M would be nice, but I doubt he'd be willing to sign for that little (and another 1-year deal) at this juncture of his career - I guess it depends on how the FA DT market develops.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

03-16-2012, 05:57 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Originally Posted by FinSaint I really think that they should fill the DT slots with rookies if at all possible, because next off-season Ellis will be off the books, and if he doesn't have a career year - well, he won't be back for the 2013 season. Then the Saints would have the cap to sign a dominant FA DT if that is what they need, and the rookie DTs would have a year under their belt - and Spags would have a better understanding of what the front 4 needs in order to become better. I'd rather see this happening than them spending unnecessary money on a FA DT who ends up producing like f.e. Rogers did this past season. Franklin with a 1-year contract for $2.5-3M would be nice, but I doubt he'd be willing to sign for that little (and another 1-year deal) at this juncture of his career - I guess it depends on how the FA DT market develops. I wouldn't mind a 2-3 year deal with Franklin at all. I was more impressed with him than Rogers. He's beef in the middle. We can't run nascar all game long, especially with Deangelo Williams, Michael Turner and Lagerrett Blount twice a year, not to mention we play Matt Forte, and Frank Gore as well.

03-16-2012, 06:15 PM	#3
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Originally Posted by Danno I wouldn't mind a 2-3 year deal with Franklin at all. I was more impressed with him than Rogers. He's beef in the middle. We can't run nascar all game long, especially with Deangelo Williams, Michael Turner and Lagerrett Blount twice a year, not to mention we play Matt Forte, and Frank Gore as well. I'm not disagreeing, and I've been in favor of bringing Franklin back the whole time, but in general I think the "draft & groom" approach sounds so much more attracting - especially when looking at it from the future continuity perspective.

03-16-2012, 06:46 PM	#4
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Originally Posted by FinSaint I think the "draft & groom" approach sounds so much more attracting - especially when looking at it from the future continuity perspective. That depends on Goodell and if he lets us keep any decent draft picks this year...

03-16-2012, 06:54 PM	#5
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| That depends on Goodell and if he lets us keep any decent draft picks this year... That is true, but I'm relying on my Magic 8-Ball which answered to my question of: "Will the Saints have draft picks in 2012" with: "You may rely on it."

03-16-2012, 06:51 PM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Originally Posted by FinSaint I'm not disagreeing, and I've been in favor of bringing Franklin back the whole time, but in general I think the "draft & groom" approach sounds so much more attracting - especially when looking at it from the future continuity perspective. Sorry, I meant to preface it with "I agree". But I do not want to pin our DT hopes on the draft. Its a difficult position to master and we'd be foolish to depend on it. We need at least one stopgap vet.

03-16-2012, 09:07 PM	#7
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Cut Ellis sign Franklin back get King in the rotation as a 3rd down pass rusher then draft an early round DT (if we still have the 2nd round pick) and another small school DT in the late rounds.

03-16-2012, 09:18 PM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Use Free Agency (Franklin) to shore up your roster; then let the surprises and youth in the draft come... Now, will we even have draft picks? Friday came and, well, still quiet...

03-16-2012, 10:59 PM	#9
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	LB's seems to be the Focus in Free Agency, which means whatever picks we have left will spent on DT's in the draft, you also have the option of moving Cam inside where I think his quickness and ability will begin to show up. blackangold likes this.

03-18-2012, 08:40 AM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by alleycat_126 LB's seems to be the Focus in Free Agency, which means whatever picks we have left will spent on DT's in the draft, you also have the option of moving Cam inside where I think his quickness and ability will begin to show up. The Saints have played it smart in the past by shoring up their needs in free agency and allowing the best player available to be picked in the draft - this, along with Coach Payton/Drew Brees leadership have been the two biggest reasons for success in New Orleans... With pending penalties that could affect draft picks as well as the unfinished business of Brees' contract - we may very well be looking at need based picks, if we have any, this season... FinSaint likes this.
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