Breakdown of Curtis Lofton

Danno · 03-20-2012, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

so if he does want 8-9 million, would he be worth that?

NO. I don't think so. Maybe 5-6, but we can't afford that, especialy with Brees demanding too much.

BGWhoDat · 03-20-2012, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

so if he does want 8-9 million, would he be worth that?

Not $9M. Ray Lewis only makes $7. He'd be about a $4-$6 IMO. Based on the breakdown I did of him, he's solid. Definitely worth the $6.6M cap hit Vilma would carry.

FinSaint · 03-20-2012, 10:05 PM

Yeah, I just don't see the Saints paying Lofton (or even being able to) that type of money - $8-9M/yr.

A good comparison is the Ahmad Brooks contract the 49ers gave him in February - 6-years for $44.5M with $17.5M guaranteed. That's an average of $7.4M/yr.

Brooks is 27, so just a little older than Lofton, but IMHO Brooks is a (much) better player than Lofton is, although they play different roles - Brooks being an OLB in a 3-4 base defense.

Paul Posluszny is making an average of $7M/yr, Chad Greenway is making $8.2/yr, and DeMeco Ryans is making $8M/yr - these are all MLBs, around the same age as Lofton, and all are better players than Lofton.

Comparing to those 3 MLBs, Lofton should be making around $5-6M/yr, but the salary market isn't always fair and equal.

Hawthorne might be more affordable, but it seems like the Saints might be targeting Lofton as their primary target.

BGWhoDat · 03-20-2012, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Yeah, I just don't see the Saints paying Lofton (or even being able to) that type of money - $8-9M/yr.

A good comparison is the Ahmad Brooks contract the 49ers gave him in February - 6-years for $44.5M with $17.5M guaranteed. That's an average of $7.4M/yr.

Brooks is 27, so just a little older than Lofton, but IMHO Brooks is a (much) better player than Lofton is, although they play different roles - Brooks being an OLB in a 3-4 base defense.

Paul Posluszny is making an average of $7M/yr, Chad Greenway is making $8.2/yr, and DeMeco Ryans is making $8M/yr - these are all MLBs, around the same age as Lofton, and all are better players than Lofton.

Comparing to those 3 MLBs, Lofton should be making around $5-6M/yr, but the salary market isn't always fair and equal.

Hawthorne might be more affordable, but it seems like the Saints might be targeting Lofton as their primary target.

Good comparison. I think they want Lofton due to his dominance. Pay extra for the top notch performer. I think all the courting they're doing is trying to "impress" him to take less cash. If he buys into the system + the winning = less money for a ring.

saintsfan1976 · 03-20-2012, 10:54 PM

I like, no looove the fact that Lofton plays so many snaps.

Could you imagine such a healthy player in New Orleans? (shocking)

But I don't care how many snaps you play - if you can't cover the pass, you're not worth the money.

jeanpierre · 03-20-2012, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Rumor I saw on another site (grain of salt please), is that Lofton was looking for 8-9 Million/year.

That could explain why we haven't signed him.

We have a winner...

jeanpierre · 03-20-2012, 11:07 PM

Considering the level he's played, age, projections forward - I should think 5mil per annum increasing 15% each year for four years + fifth season option, 10 mil guaranteed, 5.5 mil signing bonus should be appropriate contract.

FinSaint · 03-21-2012, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Considering the level he's played, age, projections forward - I should think 5mil per annum increasing 15% each year for four years + fifth season option, 10 mil guaranteed, 5.5 mil signing bonus should be appropriate contract.

Where do I sing?

FinSaint · 03-21-2012, 08:28 AM

Kamerion Wimbley reportedly signed a 5-yr $35M contract, which amounts to a $7M/yr average salary, so if Lofton is looking for a $8-9M/yr contract - think again.

NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Ex-Raiders LB Wimbley close to signing deal with Titans «

Stephen Tulloch is probably an even better comparison to Lofton's skill-set, and his new 5-year contract with the Lions is believed to be for around $40M, which would equate to an average yearly salary of $8M/yr.

Detroit Lions re-sign Tulloch among others | Yardbarker.com

There's no way a team should be paying Lofton what Wimbley and Tulloch are being payed, at least in my opinion.

03-20-2012, 07:34 PM	#21
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| so if he does want 8-9 million, would he be worth that? NO. I don't think so. Maybe 5-6, but we can't afford that, especialy with Brees demanding too much. BGWhoDat likes this.

03-20-2012, 07:35 PM	#22
BGWhoDat Who Dat Writer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 241	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| so if he does want 8-9 million, would he be worth that? Not $9M. Ray Lewis only makes $7. He'd be about a $4-$6 IMO. Based on the breakdown I did of him, he's solid. Definitely worth the $6.6M cap hit Vilma would carry.

03-20-2012, 10:05 PM	#23
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Yeah, I just don't see the Saints paying Lofton (or even being able to) that type of money - $8-9M/yr. A good comparison is the Ahmad Brooks contract the 49ers gave him in February - 6-years for $44.5M with $17.5M guaranteed. That's an average of $7.4M/yr. Brooks is 27, so just a little older than Lofton, but IMHO Brooks is a (much) better player than Lofton is, although they play different roles - Brooks being an OLB in a 3-4 base defense. Paul Posluszny is making an average of $7M/yr, Chad Greenway is making $8.2/yr, and DeMeco Ryans is making $8M/yr - these are all MLBs, around the same age as Lofton, and all are better players than Lofton. Comparing to those 3 MLBs, Lofton should be making around $5-6M/yr, but the salary market isn't always fair and equal. Hawthorne might be more affordable, but it seems like the Saints might be targeting Lofton as their primary target. BGWhoDat likes this.
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03-20-2012, 10:28 PM	#24
BGWhoDat Who Dat Writer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 241	Originally Posted by FinSaint Yeah, I just don't see the Saints paying Lofton (or even being able to) that type of money - $8-9M/yr. A good comparison is the Ahmad Brooks contract the 49ers gave him in February - 6-years for $44.5M with $17.5M guaranteed. That's an average of $7.4M/yr. Brooks is 27, so just a little older than Lofton, but IMHO Brooks is a (much) better player than Lofton is, although they play different roles - Brooks being an OLB in a 3-4 base defense. Paul Posluszny is making an average of $7M/yr, Chad Greenway is making $8.2/yr, and DeMeco Ryans is making $8M/yr - these are all MLBs, around the same age as Lofton, and all are better players than Lofton. Comparing to those 3 MLBs, Lofton should be making around $5-6M/yr, but the salary market isn't always fair and equal. Hawthorne might be more affordable, but it seems like the Saints might be targeting Lofton as their primary target. Good comparison. I think they want Lofton due to his dominance. Pay extra for the top notch performer. I think all the courting they're doing is trying to "impress" him to take less cash. If he buys into the system + the winning = less money for a ring.

03-20-2012, 10:54 PM	#25
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,832 Blog Entries: 3	I like, no looove the fact that Lofton plays so many snaps. Could you imagine such a healthy player in New Orleans? (shocking) But I don't care how many snaps you play - if you can't cover the pass, you're not worth the money. jeanpierre likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by Danno Rumor I saw on another site (grain of salt please), is that Lofton was looking for 8-9 Million/year. That could explain why we haven't signed him. We have a winner...

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Considering the level he's played, age, projections forward - I should think 5mil per annum increasing 15% each year for four years + fifth season option, 10 mil guaranteed, 5.5 mil signing bonus should be appropriate contract.

03-21-2012, 07:33 AM	#28
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by jeanpierre Considering the level he's played, age, projections forward - I should think 5mil per annum increasing 15% each year for four years + fifth season option, 10 mil guaranteed, 5.5 mil signing bonus should be appropriate contract. Where do I sing?

03-21-2012, 08:28 AM	#29
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Kamerion Wimbley reportedly signed a 5-yr $35M contract, which amounts to a $7M/yr average salary, so if Lofton is looking for a $8-9M/yr contract - think again. NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Ex-Raiders LB Wimbley close to signing deal with Titans « Stephen Tulloch is probably an even better comparison to Lofton's skill-set, and his new 5-year contract with the Lions is believed to be for around $40M, which would equate to an average yearly salary of $8M/yr. Detroit Lions re-sign Tulloch among others \| Yardbarker.com There's no way a team should be paying Lofton what Wimbley and Tulloch are being payed, at least in my opinion.
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