What would the NFL do if..

xan · 03-21-2012, 11:21 PM

Saints Fans put bounties on opposing players, and advertised those bounties? There wouldn't have to be an award, just some sort of fan memorialization in the Dome, in clear sight of the opposing bench.

Would they kick fans out? Would they "secret police" them - take season tickets away, threaten prosecution? Petition the Feds for a suspension of Habeus Corpus, throwing the suspects into a cell in Guantanamo? How would they stop this?

Goodell officially declared war on Saints football and its fanbase. The nature of the punishment went entirely to justifying an extreme and tenuous "moral" position of intent to harm in a game where every interaction between opposing players is an intent to harm.

G504 noted in another thread that severe punishments have done nothing to deter the "crimes", just caused them to mutate. Revolution usually occurs when the punishment appears to arbitrary and severe, designed to subordinate one class in a way where remediation is not possible.

If the fanbase fights back, then what?

alleycat_126 · 03-21-2012, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by xan

If the fanbase fights back, then what?

Not if dude, WHEN!!! We will have our say, and that Dome will be buzzing!!!

AlaskaSaints · 03-22-2012, 12:21 AM

Very nicely put, Xan! Excellent post.

Alaska

Michigan_SF · 03-22-2012, 03:08 AM

If fans did something that arguably put players in danger, then the consequences might be similar to the 2001 MNF game at the dome vs the Rams. Arrests, losing your tickets, etc are all possibilities. Not a cool idea but I understand everyone's frustration.

SloMotion · 03-22-2012, 08:31 AM

Back in the Millen-era, "Fire Millen" signs and other fan signage considered less then positive was banned, removed or taken at the gates of Lions home games. That policy remains in affect to this day. Probably the same would apply in this case ... but there has to be a way.

Mardigras9 · 03-22-2012, 09:28 AM

As long as it's not vulgar, it should be allowed. You can bet the Dome will have it's say ALL YEAR.

saintfan · 03-22-2012, 10:54 AM

I like it.

QBREES9 · 03-22-2012, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by xan

Saints Fans put bounties on opposing players, and advertised those bounties? There wouldn't have to be an award, just some sort of fan memorialization in the Dome, in clear sight of the opposing bench.

Would they kick fans out? Would they "secret police" them - take season tickets away, threaten prosecution? Petition the Feds for a suspension of Habeus Corpus, throwing the suspects into a cell in Guantanamo? How would they stop this?

Goodell officially declared war on Saints football and its fanbase. The nature of the punishment went entirely to justifying an extreme and tenuous "moral" position of intent to harm in a game where every interaction between opposing players is an intent to harm.

G504 noted in another thread that severe punishments have done nothing to deter the "crimes", just caused them to mutate. Revolution usually occurs when the punishment appears to arbitrary and severe, designed to subordinate one class in a way where remediation is not possible.

If the fanbase fights back, then what?

Revolution !

niteadept · 03-22-2012, 11:45 AM

I seem to recall a former 49er player placing a bounty on Drew's head during the playoffs. Where was the almighty Goodell then?!

dsrdsrdsr · 03-22-2012, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by xan

Saints Fans put bounties on opposing players, and advertised those bounties? There wouldn't have to be an award, just some sort of fan memorialization in the Dome, in clear sight of the opposing bench.

The NFL wouldn't do anything. The Saints organisation would, though, because in spite of everything the ownership doesn't actually want to be the team they all hate. If posters are to be banned, if season tickets are to be suspended, it's the New Orleans Saints' office that would do it. (Taking down the "Fire Millen" posters was Lions' policy, not the League's.)

Of course, if any player actually took the money, he'd get a life ban.

03-21-2012, 11:21 PM	#1
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,373 Blog Entries: 34	What would the NFL do if.. Saints Fans put bounties on opposing players, and advertised those bounties? There wouldn't have to be an award, just some sort of fan memorialization in the Dome, in clear sight of the opposing bench. Would they kick fans out? Would they "secret police" them - take season tickets away, threaten prosecution? Petition the Feds for a suspension of Habeus Corpus, throwing the suspects into a cell in Guantanamo? How would they stop this? Goodell officially declared war on Saints football and its fanbase. The nature of the punishment went entirely to justifying an extreme and tenuous "moral" position of intent to harm in a game where every interaction between opposing players is an intent to harm. G504 noted in another thread that severe punishments have done nothing to deter the "crimes", just caused them to mutate. Revolution usually occurs when the punishment appears to arbitrary and severe, designed to subordinate one class in a way where remediation is not possible. If the fanbase fights back, then what? saintfan, QBREES9 and AlaskaSaints like this.
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03-21-2012, 11:32 PM	#2
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Originally Posted by xan If the fanbase fights back, then what? Not if dude, WHEN!!! We will have our say, and that Dome will be buzzing!!!

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Michigan_SF 100th Post Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 407	If fans did something that arguably put players in danger, then the consequences might be similar to the 2001 MNF game at the dome vs the Rams. Arrests, losing your tickets, etc are all possibilities. Not a cool idea but I understand everyone's frustration.
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03-22-2012, 11:05 AM	#8
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Originally Posted by xan Saints Fans put bounties on opposing players, and advertised those bounties? There wouldn't have to be an award, just some sort of fan memorialization in the Dome, in clear sight of the opposing bench. Would they kick fans out? Would they "secret police" them - take season tickets away, threaten prosecution? Petition the Feds for a suspension of Habeus Corpus, throwing the suspects into a cell in Guantanamo? How would they stop this? Goodell officially declared war on Saints football and its fanbase. The nature of the punishment went entirely to justifying an extreme and tenuous "moral" position of intent to harm in a game where every interaction between opposing players is an intent to harm. G504 noted in another thread that severe punishments have done nothing to deter the "crimes", just caused them to mutate. Revolution usually occurs when the punishment appears to arbitrary and severe, designed to subordinate one class in a way where remediation is not possible. If the fanbase fights back, then what? Revolution !

03-22-2012, 07:36 PM	#10
dsrdsrdsr Registered Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 34	Originally Posted by xan Saints Fans put bounties on opposing players, and advertised those bounties? There wouldn't have to be an award, just some sort of fan memorialization in the Dome, in clear sight of the opposing bench. The NFL wouldn't do anything. The Saints organisation would, though, because in spite of everything the ownership doesn't actually want to be the team they all hate. If posters are to be banned, if season tickets are to be suspended, it's the New Orleans Saints' office that would do it. (Taking down the "Fire Millen" posters was Lions' policy, not the League's.) Of course, if any player actually took the money, he'd get a life ban.
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03-22-2012, 12:21 AM	#3
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Very nicely put, Xan! Excellent post. Alaska

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SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Back in the Millen-era, "Fire Millen" signs and other fan signage considered less then positive was banned, removed or taken at the gates of Lions home games. That policy remains in affect to this day. Probably the same would apply in this case ... but there has to be a way.

03-22-2012, 09:28 AM	#6
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	As long as it's not vulgar, it should be allowed. You can bet the Dome will have it's say ALL YEAR.

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03-22-2012, 11:45 AM	#9
niteadept Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 520 Blog Entries: 1	I seem to recall a former 49er player placing a bounty on Drew's head during the playoffs. Where was the almighty Goodell then?!

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