Walters Bodrick Bunkley Free Agent Grade

|Mitch| · 03-22-2012, 09:47 PM

Saints sign DT Brodrick Bunkley (5 years, $25M; $9M guaranteed): B Grade
The timing of this signing is pretty weird, isn't it? I guess Brodrick Bunkley doesn't care about not having a head coach for the first season of his contract.

This seems like a lot of money for a run-stuffing specialist who can't get to the quarterback, but I completely understand the move. The Saints lost their second-round pick because of Bountygate, so they wouldn't be able to fill their dire need for a defensive tackle until Round 3.

+ what he thinks about the bounty penalties

Saints' Bountygate Penalties
I didn't know where else to put this, but here is what Roger Goodell slapped the Saints and other involved parties with for Bountygate:

- Gregg Williams has been suspended indefinitely.

- Sean Payton has been suspended for the 2012 season.

- General manager Mickey Loomis has been suspended for eight games and fined $500,000 (I tried to promote Loomis to owner. Whoops.)

- Saints have been fined an additional $500,000.

- Assistant coach Joe Vitt has been suspended six games.

- Player penalties (Jonathan Vilma) are forthcoming.

- Saints lose second-round picks in 2012 and 2013.

I thought Payton would get eight games, and I don't know how suspending the general manager accomplishes anything, but nothing else surprises me. The Saints had to be penalized harshly. It's one thing to hit players hard; it's another to attempt to give them concussions intentionally. There's no place for that in any sport, especially now that we realize how troubling concussions can be long-term. I don't think Williams should ever be allowed to coach again. He was warned about this, yet he didn't listen. How do we know that he won't pull something like this again? He can't be trusted.

The Saints aren't totally screwed because Drew Brees is one of the elite quarterbacks in the NFL, and he'll be able to pull out some victories, even without Payton on the sidelines. However, it still decreases New Orleans' chances of qualifying for the playoffs, especially with the Falcons and improving Panthers threatening to win the division.

http://www.walterfootball.com/freeagents2012recap.php

FinSaint · 03-22-2012, 10:13 PM

The signing of Bunkley was really important, and while it can be argued that the Saints over-payed him somewhat, it wasn't by very much since both Franklin and Rogers made $4M last season.

Bunkley still has quite a few years left in him, and he might just find his true potential in the black & gold under Spags' tutelage, in which case this grade could easily go up to an A.

I just wonder if Bunkley would've signed this particular deal if he would've known the whole extent of the BountyGate penalties, including the potential suspensions to the defensive players?

It'll be curious to see what the structure of the contract is, whenever it'll be made public knowledge.

Marlboro Man · 03-22-2012, 11:10 PM

I still want to know when and where did the NFL confirm the intent of the players was to permanantly injure any player.

hagan714 · 03-23-2012, 05:14 AM

as far as i know they only players mentioned are all rumor based at this point.

Not a bad signing in my book.

money is fair and very cap friendly

The deal averages $4.5 million a season and includes a $4.5 million signing bonus. But the structure is very cap friendly in the first year. Bunkley’s cap figure for 2012 is only $1.6 million. That’s good news for a team that had only about $3 million in available cap space before Bunkley’s deal and is still working to get quarterback Drew Brees signed to a long-term contract. Bunkley helped the Saints out by accepting a base salary of $700,000 this year and spreading out large chunks of money over the rest of the contract.

In 2013, Bunkley has a $3.7 million base salary that’s fully guaranteed. In 2014, Bunkley’s salary jumps to $4.4 million and it stays there for the final two years of the deal. Bunkley also has a $100,000 workout bonus each year, starting in 2013. He also has escalator clauses that could drive up his base salary in any season, starting next year.

Bunkley deal cap-friendly for Saints - NFC South Blog - ESPN

A bit over hyped in the 2006 draft due to his combine performance. so Phili stupidity in the draft and denver not getting the deal done for some strange reason we benefit.

We get a big, strong and athletic DT that still has years of playing time ahead of him if the knees hold up. yep a bit of early knee troubles in high school and early on in college. I wanted him till the combine hype drove his stock out of the ceiling.

As far as not getting to the QB i have to pause on that one. remember one thing denver defense was designed for speed rush off the edges not up the middle. Philli is philli and they have always had their defense built so their stars shine.

Lets see what happens we may be surprised. Two big and quick DT is something we have never had in recent years

FinSaint · 03-23-2012, 09:23 AM

Thanks for the additional contract info hagan!

It's really nice to see that Bunkley was willing to work out a deal like that, which doesn't tie up a lot of cap room in the first two season, and then the salary cap jumps in 2014 so the increased cap hits won't be a problem.

Now, if only they could still sign Hawthorne to a similar contract...

CharityMike · 03-23-2012, 09:46 AM

"attempt to give them concussions intentionally" Where did that come from?? Never once heard anything about trying to give someone a concussion. Now they just making things up as go along eh..

03-22-2012, 09:47 PM	#1
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Walters Bodrick Bunkley Free Agent Grade Saints sign DT Brodrick Bunkley (5 years, $25M; $9M guaranteed): B Grade The timing of this signing is pretty weird, isn't it? I guess Brodrick Bunkley doesn't care about not having a head coach for the first season of his contract. This seems like a lot of money for a run-stuffing specialist who can't get to the quarterback, but I completely understand the move. The Saints lost their second-round pick because of Bountygate, so they wouldn't be able to fill their dire need for a defensive tackle until Round 3. + what he thinks about the bounty penalties Saints' Bountygate Penalties I didn't know where else to put this, but here is what Roger Goodell slapped the Saints and other involved parties with for Bountygate: - Gregg Williams has been suspended indefinitely. - Sean Payton has been suspended for the 2012 season. - General manager Mickey Loomis has been suspended for eight games and fined $500,000 (I tried to promote Loomis to owner. Whoops.) - Saints have been fined an additional $500,000. - Assistant coach Joe Vitt has been suspended six games. - Player penalties (Jonathan Vilma) are forthcoming. - Saints lose second-round picks in 2012 and 2013. I thought Payton would get eight games, and I don't know how suspending the general manager accomplishes anything, but nothing else surprises me. The Saints had to be penalized harshly. It's one thing to hit players hard; it's another to attempt to give them concussions intentionally. There's no place for that in any sport, especially now that we realize how troubling concussions can be long-term. I don't think Williams should ever be allowed to coach again. He was warned about this, yet he didn't listen. How do we know that he won't pull something like this again? He can't be trusted. The Saints aren't totally screwed because Drew Brees is one of the elite quarterbacks in the NFL, and he'll be able to pull out some victories, even without Payton on the sidelines. However, it still decreases New Orleans' chances of qualifying for the playoffs, especially with the Falcons and improving Panthers threatening to win the division. http://www.walterfootball.com/freeagents2012recap.php

03-22-2012, 10:13 PM	#2
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	The signing of Bunkley was really important, and while it can be argued that the Saints over-payed him somewhat, it wasn't by very much since both Franklin and Rogers made $4M last season. Bunkley still has quite a few years left in him, and he might just find his true potential in the black & gold under Spags' tutelage, in which case this grade could easily go up to an A. I just wonder if Bunkley would've signed this particular deal if he would've known the whole extent of the BountyGate penalties, including the potential suspensions to the defensive players? It'll be curious to see what the structure of the contract is, whenever it'll be made public knowledge.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

03-23-2012, 05:14 AM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	as far as i know they only players mentioned are all rumor based at this point. Not a bad signing in my book. money is fair and very cap friendly The deal averages $4.5 million a season and includes a $4.5 million signing bonus. But the structure is very cap friendly in the first year. Bunkley’s cap figure for 2012 is only $1.6 million. That’s good news for a team that had only about $3 million in available cap space before Bunkley’s deal and is still working to get quarterback Drew Brees signed to a long-term contract. Bunkley helped the Saints out by accepting a base salary of $700,000 this year and spreading out large chunks of money over the rest of the contract. In 2013, Bunkley has a $3.7 million base salary that’s fully guaranteed. In 2014, Bunkley’s salary jumps to $4.4 million and it stays there for the final two years of the deal. Bunkley also has a $100,000 workout bonus each year, starting in 2013. He also has escalator clauses that could drive up his base salary in any season, starting next year. Bunkley deal cap-friendly for Saints - NFC South Blog - ESPN A bit over hyped in the 2006 draft due to his combine performance. so Phili stupidity in the draft and denver not getting the deal done for some strange reason we benefit. We get a big, strong and athletic DT that still has years of playing time ahead of him if the knees hold up. yep a bit of early knee troubles in high school and early on in college. I wanted him till the combine hype drove his stock out of the ceiling. As far as not getting to the QB i have to pause on that one. remember one thing denver defense was designed for speed rush off the edges not up the middle. Philli is philli and they have always had their defense built so their stars shine. Lets see what happens we may be surprised. Two big and quick DT is something we have never had in recent years FinSaint likes this.
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03-22-2012, 11:10 PM	#3
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	I still want to know when and where did the NFL confirm the intent of the players was to permanantly injure any player.

03-23-2012, 09:23 AM	#5
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Thanks for the additional contract info hagan! It's really nice to see that Bunkley was willing to work out a deal like that, which doesn't tie up a lot of cap room in the first two season, and then the salary cap jumps in 2014 so the increased cap hits won't be a problem. Now, if only they could still sign Hawthorne to a similar contract...

03-23-2012, 09:46 AM	#6
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	"attempt to give them concussions intentionally" Where did that come from?? Never once heard anything about trying to give someone a concussion. Now they just making things up as go along eh..