Saints players that could be suspended;impact on the season

03-26-2012, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by joker-saint

Here is a list of the ones I could find, but I am not sure of the credibility of the source. New-Orleans-Saints Salaries | New-Orleans-Saints Player Salaries | 2012 New-Orleans-Saints Salary

Jonathan Vilma 5,400,000
Scott Shanle 1,750,000
Martez Wilson 509,000
Will Herring 1,300,000
Will Smith 825,000
Sedrick Ellis 5,816,000
Junior Galette 490,000
Cameron Jordan 726,427
Tom Johnson 465,000
Malcolm Jenkins 1,092,000
Jabari Greer 5,400,000
Roman Harper 4,500,000
Patrick Robinson 527,500
Isa Abdul-Quddus 465,000

Total cap space = $29,265,927

Thats an awful lot of dough to spend elsewhere.

Thats the 2012 cap hit if they make the team.

If we cut them, all guaranteed money and signing bonus accellerates to this year...

Harpers cap hit is 4.5 million if he makes the team.
If we cut him, his cap hit is near 17 million.

I'm sure there are several others on that list that would cost more to cut than to keep.

Euphoria · 03-26-2012, 10:01 AM

I got the greatest game promotion ever!!!

The first 25 people enter the dome on game day gets to dress out. Of that the lucky first 8 gets to start on D.

Mardigras9 · 03-26-2012, 11:36 AM

Have to make Drew happy, the only way we have a chance is to score big every game.

NOLA54 · 03-26-2012, 02:43 PM

First of all how does Goodell know who put money into the pot? He can't just willy nilly suspend players based on someone elses word. I would think the NFLPA would have something to say about it as would the players to be named would probably file lawsuites. You can't assume guilt based on association or otherwise. There better be some hard evidence of who participated. Unless players confess or someone made recordings of the conversations how does Goodell know who to suspend. Vilma's is the only name I have heard during this whole thing.

saintfan · 03-26-2012, 07:36 PM

Ima tell y'all what. If I get suspended they better be able to PROVE I took money or I'm getting Jackie on 'da phone...

arsaint · 03-26-2012, 08:07 PM

If I were a betting man I would say that Vilma is out for the year. Harper may be too - he was already being labeled "dirty".

Look for Jenkins to probably get 8 games.

Doesn't matter if they (Harper/Jenkins) did anything wrong, there are enough "vicious hits" out of our safeties on film (called tackles 5-10 years ago) that we're toast.

I also look for former Saints Hargrove and Bobby McCray to get a dose.

burningmetal · 03-27-2012, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by joker-saint

Here is a list of the ones I could find, but I am not sure of the credibility of the source. New-Orleans-Saints Salaries | New-Orleans-Saints Player Salaries | 2012 New-Orleans-Saints Salary

Jonathan Vilma 5,400,000
Scott Shanle 1,750,000
Martez Wilson 509,000
Will Herring 1,300,000
Will Smith 825,000
Sedrick Ellis 5,816,000
Junior Galette 490,000
Cameron Jordan 726,427
Tom Johnson 465,000
Malcolm Jenkins 1,092,000
Jabari Greer 5,400,000
Roman Harper 4,500,000
Patrick Robinson 527,500
Isa Abdul-Quddus 465,000

Total cap space = $29,265,927

Thats an awful lot of dough to spend elsewhere.

That would only free up cap space if they released all those players. If I am not mistaken, while suspended players might not be getting paid, their would be salary still counts towards the cap.

Also, Jonathan Vilma and maybe Roman Harper are the only players on the team I can see getting a significant suspension. So even if they didn't count toward the cap while suspended, it would only save us money on the games they actually miss. So that number you added up would go way down.

Interesting to think about, though.

|Mitch| · 03-27-2012, 01:27 AM

Actually releasing all these players and we still have to pay them their guaranteed money. So realeasing Harper would cost us something like 17 million

Marlboro Man · 03-29-2012, 12:57 AM

Well if he suspends all of em we won't be able to field a team, and dumbarse Goodell and the nfl would lose millions.

TheKillerBs · 03-29-2012, 02:35 AM

I'm with hagan... Hits or GTFO!

03-26-2012, 09:54 AM	#11
Threaded by Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by joker-saint Here is a list of the ones I could find, but I am not sure of the credibility of the source. New-Orleans-Saints Salaries \| New-Orleans-Saints Player Salaries \| 2012 New-Orleans-Saints Salary Jonathan Vilma 5,400,000 Scott Shanle 1,750,000 Martez Wilson 509,000 Will Herring 1,300,000 Will Smith 825,000 Sedrick Ellis 5,816,000 Junior Galette 490,000 Cameron Jordan 726,427 Tom Johnson 465,000 Malcolm Jenkins 1,092,000 Jabari Greer 5,400,000 Roman Harper 4,500,000 Patrick Robinson 527,500 Isa Abdul-Quddus 465,000 Total cap space = $29,265,927 Thats an awful lot of dough to spend elsewhere. Thats the 2012 cap hit if they make the team. If we cut them, all guaranteed money and signing bonus accellerates to this year... Harpers cap hit is 4.5 million if he makes the team. If we cut him, his cap hit is near 17 million. I'm sure there are several others on that list that would cost more to cut than to keep.
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03-26-2012, 10:01 AM	#12
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03-26-2012, 07:36 PM	#15
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03-27-2012, 01:23 AM	#17
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by joker-saint Here is a list of the ones I could find, but I am not sure of the credibility of the source. New-Orleans-Saints Salaries \| New-Orleans-Saints Player Salaries \| 2012 New-Orleans-Saints Salary Jonathan Vilma 5,400,000 Scott Shanle 1,750,000 Martez Wilson 509,000 Will Herring 1,300,000 Will Smith 825,000 Sedrick Ellis 5,816,000 Junior Galette 490,000 Cameron Jordan 726,427 Tom Johnson 465,000 Malcolm Jenkins 1,092,000 Jabari Greer 5,400,000 Roman Harper 4,500,000 Patrick Robinson 527,500 Isa Abdul-Quddus 465,000 Total cap space = $29,265,927 Thats an awful lot of dough to spend elsewhere. That would only free up cap space if they released all those players. If I am not mistaken, while suspended players might not be getting paid, their would be salary still counts towards the cap. Also, Jonathan Vilma and maybe Roman Harper are the only players on the team I can see getting a significant suspension. So even if they didn't count toward the cap while suspended, it would only save us money on the games they actually miss. So that number you added up would go way down. Interesting to think about, though.

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03-26-2012, 11:36 AM	#13
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Have to make Drew happy, the only way we have a chance is to score big every game.

03-26-2012, 02:43 PM	#14
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	First of all how does Goodell know who put money into the pot? He can't just willy nilly suspend players based on someone elses word. I would think the NFLPA would have something to say about it as would the players to be named would probably file lawsuites. You can't assume guilt based on association or otherwise. There better be some hard evidence of who participated. Unless players confess or someone made recordings of the conversations how does Goodell know who to suspend. Vilma's is the only name I have heard during this whole thing.

03-26-2012, 08:07 PM	#16
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,716	If I were a betting man I would say that Vilma is out for the year. Harper may be too - he was already being labeled "dirty". Look for Jenkins to probably get 8 games. Doesn't matter if they (Harper/Jenkins) did anything wrong, there are enough "vicious hits" out of our safeties on film (called tackles 5-10 years ago) that we're toast. I also look for former Saints Hargrove and Bobby McCray to get a dose.

03-27-2012, 01:27 AM	#18
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Actually releasing all these players and we still have to pay them their guaranteed money. So realeasing Harper would cost us something like 17 million

03-29-2012, 12:57 AM	#19
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Well if he suspends all of em we won't be able to field a team, and dumbarse Goodell and the nfl would lose millions.

03-29-2012, 02:35 AM	#20
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