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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by FinSaint Isn't it in 2014 with the new TV deal revenue added to the overall revenue pool? My understanding is that the 2013 salary cap should be around the same cap figure as this coming season's cap ...
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Originally Posted by FinSaint
Thats what I've heard also. ![]()
Its probably why the Brees deal isn't done yet. Mickey probably wants the deal structured so that we take smaller hits in 2012 and 1013 and jump in 2014. Condon probably want the big money as front loaded as possible. |
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Originally Posted by |Mitch|
“Worst deal in the history of sports” suddenly looks pretty good | ProFootballTalk![]()
The past three weeks have entailed plenty of talk about the salary cap as calculated in the new CBA, and whether and to what extent those numbers will spike when the new TV contracts kick in. The NFLPA reportedly has told players it will. Patriots owner Robert Kraft has said that it wont. Now, Texans owner Bob McNair, who chairs the leagues finance committee, agrees with Kraft. It is staying pretty flat for several years, McNair told Daniel Kaplan of SportsBusiness Journal while departing last weeks league meetings. McNair added that, after 2014, the cap will gradually increase. Kaplans report also confirms that the union borrowed against future years in order to pump the cap in 2012 from as low as $113 million per team to $120.6 million per team, not much more than the $120.375 million per team in 2011. The same thing will happen in 2013, which means that gains to be realized in 2014 and beyond will have already been, to a certain extent, consumed by the players in order to drive up the numbers in 2012 and 2013. The end result, per Kaplan, will be a total of $142.4 million per team in salary and benefits for each of the first three years of the new CBA, with modest annual increases thereafter. Kaplan points out that, last March, the players walked away from a proposal that would have guaranteed $146 million per team in 2012, $150 million per team in 2013, and $161 million per team in 2014. (Actually, the document created by the owners in March 2011, a copy of which PFT has obtained, showed a minimum of $148 million in 2012 and $155 million in 2013.) NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith called that offer the worst deal in the history of sports, in part because of the gross reduction in the players take and in part because the formula included no portion of the leagues financial upside. So, instead, the players eventually traded a proposal with a high floor and a low ceiling for a deal with a low floor and a high ceiling. And for now the numbers are congregating at the floor. |
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Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint
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It's hard to not think that the cap has to increase in 2014 even with these borrowed supplements to the 2012 and 2013 caps, because the new TV deal is going to bring in an additional 3 billion dollars to the TV revenue which is directly calculated into the format approved in the new CBA which designates the salary budgets and, furthermore, that in turn designates the salary cap floor and ceiling. Even if the rise would not happen in 2014 because of the previous borrowed supplements, those should be payed off within that first year if the cap stays as it is right now, and so the increase hike would then happen in 2015. At least that is how I understand the situation according to the limited knowledge I have about the circumstances involved. |
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Originally Posted by biloxi-indian
Loomis is a freakin cap genius
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where's that falcon troll who was certain we overpaid for Lofton?
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Well, I had a quick look-see on their boards and majority of them are saying that the price the Saints payed for Lofton's services was more than they would've thought that it was worth. It's strange that they also seem to think that Tatupu was the Saints' #1 choice for a MLB, but that they were able to get him signed before the Saints were. That scenario doesn't seem that realistic because there was quite a bit of time between him visiting the Saints and then the Failclowns having him over and signing him. I would think that if the Saints really wanted him, they would've gotten him to sign a contract within that timespan between the two visits. The funny thing is that they keep referring to Lofton's knees becoming an issue, but they were happy to sign Tatupu who missed an entire season because of his knees. |
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Yeah, that's what is so crazy about it. He didn't miss any time after his knee surgeries last off-season, and to my knowledge he doesn't have any underlying conditions which could hurt his chances of staying healthy in the future - like Vilma has. |
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I just want to know the number on his back not his paycheck.
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