NFLPA: League must release Saints information

blackangold · 03-30-2012, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

And they should appeal. As should the players. Show me the ledger, show me the audio, video of a deal going down. Isn't that what our justice system requires to arrest, convict and sentence?

Present ALL of the evidence.

Justice system yes, however there are no criminal charges involved and in civil lawsuits only a preponderance of evidence is needed to 'convict' or issue guilt upon a party.

Also worth noting this is not a court case of any kind. Goodell has all the power and even appeals will go to him. Doesn't sound fair because it isn't.

saintsfan1976 · 03-30-2012, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Justice system yes, however there are no criminal charges involved and in civil lawsuits only a preponderance of evidence is needed to 'convict' or issue guilt upon a party.

Also worth noting this is not a court case of any kind. Goodell has all the power and even appeals will go to him. Doesn't sound fair because it isn't.

Yeah, I know. I meant it more as a reflection of what "should" happen.

saintfan · 03-31-2012, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Justice system yes, however there are no criminal charges involved and in civil lawsuits only a preponderance of evidence is needed to 'convict' or issue guilt upon a party.

Also worth noting this is not a court case of any kind. Goodell has all the power and even appeals will go to him. Doesn't sound fair because it isn't.

All very true, but if I'm anyone being associated with all this, and what the NFL is stating isn't accurate - isn't provable - whether they punish me or not - I want that known. I want it known that they have no real evidence...just because...

03-30-2012, 05:12 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 And they should appeal. As should the players. Show me the ledger, show me the audio, video of a deal going down. Isn't that what our justice system requires to arrest, convict and sentence? Present ALL of the evidence. Justice system yes, however there are no criminal charges involved and in civil lawsuits only a preponderance of evidence is needed to 'convict' or issue guilt upon a party. Also worth noting this is not a court case of any kind. Goodell has all the power and even appeals will go to him. Doesn't sound fair because it isn't.

03-30-2012, 05:30 PM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,103 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by blackangold Justice system yes, however there are no criminal charges involved and in civil lawsuits only a preponderance of evidence is needed to 'convict' or issue guilt upon a party. Also worth noting this is not a court case of any kind. Goodell has all the power and even appeals will go to him. Doesn't sound fair because it isn't. Yeah, I know. I meant it more as a reflection of what "should" happen.

03-31-2012, 01:51 PM	#3
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by blackangold Justice system yes, however there are no criminal charges involved and in civil lawsuits only a preponderance of evidence is needed to 'convict' or issue guilt upon a party. Also worth noting this is not a court case of any kind. Goodell has all the power and even appeals will go to him. Doesn't sound fair because it isn't. All very true, but if I'm anyone being associated with all this, and what the NFL is stating isn't accurate - isn't provable - whether they punish me or not - I want that known. I want it known that they have no real evidence...just because...

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