G. Williams Audio - Wow...

ChrisXVI · 04-05-2012, 06:57 PM

It's ok, according to rat if you tell someone to do something and they don't do it then they're still guilty because you told them to do it.

AsylumGuido · 04-05-2012, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

It's ok, according to rat if you tell someone to do something and they don't do it then they're still guilty because you told them to do it.

DING ... DING ... DING!!!

We have a winner!!

ratchoke99 · 04-05-2012, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

It's ok, according to rat if you tell someone to do something and they don't do it then they're still guilty because you told them to do it.

Please state where I said that.....

I stated multiple times, this is a discussion of how GW/FO did something completely immoral. Which I'll once again repeat, was paying players to deliberately HURT other players in a professional sport. And that the FANS who want to some how oddly justify it or defend the act because it's a rough sport, and it's a supposedly accepted culture within the sport, are completely, well dumb.

But since you brought it up, yes, the players are still guilty; it's called being an accessory to a crime.

gandhi1007 · 04-05-2012, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by ratchoke99

Please state where I said that.....

I stated multiple times, this is a discussion of how GW/FO did something completely immoral. Which I'll once again repeat, was paying players to deliberately HURT other players in a professional sport. And that the FANS who want to some how oddly justify it or defend the act because it's a rough sport, and it's a supposedly accepted culture within the sport, are completely, well dumb.

But since you brought it up, yes, the players are still guilty; it's called being an accessory to a crime.

Where is your evidence??? Are you speculating? I haven't heard an audio or seen a video yet with money offered up or cart off comments made. In the United States of America, you are innocent until PROVEN guilty.......unless Obama changed that too.

ratchoke99 · 04-05-2012, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by gandhi1007

Where is your evidence??? Are you speculating? I haven't heard an audio or seen a video yet with money offered up or cart off comments made. In the United States of America, you are innocent until PROVEN guilty.......unless Obama changed that too.

AGAIN, GOODELL has OFFICIALLY stated they have HARD evidence. That is MY evidence, I don't work in the industry, so how can I present you with those?

Why would GOODELL risk his career/reputation for some personal vendetta for something w/ NO evidence?

AsylumGuido · 04-05-2012, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by ratchoke99

AGAIN, GOODELL has OFFICIALLY stated they have HARD evidence. That is MY evidence, I don't work in the industry, so how can I present you with those?

Why would GOODELL risk his career/reputation for some personal vendetta for something w/ NO evidence?

He has NEVER stated he had any HARD evidence on players. In fact, after he gave the expanded reports to the NFLPA De Smith said that there was nothing in the reports that would justify any punishment upon players.

pherein · 04-06-2012, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by ratchoke99

AGAIN, GOODELL has OFFICIALLY stated they have HARD evidence. That is MY evidence, I don't work in the industry, so how can I present you with those?

Why would GOODELL risk his career/reputation for some personal vendetta for something w/ NO evidence?

Dude, you have 0 likes so far, and thats hard to believe. Lots of other fans come on this board and don't agree with us, and do just fine. It might be your approach on a sore subject. This isn't the "Colston is the best WR" thread.
We are not happy about this, and most will defend this team until we see evidence to prove anyones involvement.

Saying Goodell said it won't wash in almost any teams forum in the NFL. Goodell is not liked by most fans universally.

saintfan · 04-07-2012, 09:06 AM

Originally Posted by ratchoke99

AGAIN, GOODELL has OFFICIALLY stated they have HARD evidence. That is MY evidence, I don't work in the industry, so how can I present you with those?

Why would GOODELL risk his career/reputation for some personal vendetta for something w/ NO evidence?

Goodell? Isn't that he the guy who destroyed all the spygate 'evidence' so...uh hem...'other teams wouldn't see it'?

Yeah, I'm just going to blindly accept anything THAT guy says.

AsylumGuido · 04-05-2012, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by ratchoke99

Please state where I said that.....

I stated multiple times, this is a discussion of how GW/FO did something completely immoral. Which I'll once again repeat, was paying players to deliberately HURT other players in a professional sport. And that the FANS who want to some how oddly justify it or defend the act because it's a rough sport, and it's a supposedly accepted culture within the sport, are completely, well dumb.

But since you brought it up, yes, the players are still guilty; it's called being an accessory to a crime.

No, Gregg Williams was offering to pay to injure. There is no proof that any player fell for the idiot's demands and actually followed through. Nobody would justify that. What we are defending is that we refuse to believe that our players actually did what Williams wanted. And how are the players guilty? There has been no proof that any of them actually tried to injure, not simply hurt, an opponent for pay.

I agree that Williams is scum, but just because players were sitting in the room listening to the moron doesn't mean they bought int ohis delusions.

04-05-2012, 06:58 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,491	Originally Posted by ChrisXVI It's ok, according to rat if you tell someone to do something and they don't do it then they're still guilty because you told them to do it. DING ... DING ... DING!!! We have a winner!!

04-05-2012, 07:28 PM	#3
ratchoke99 Rookie Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 12	Originally Posted by ChrisXVI It's ok, according to rat if you tell someone to do something and they don't do it then they're still guilty because you told them to do it. Please state where I said that..... I stated multiple times, this is a discussion of how GW/FO did something completely immoral. Which I'll once again repeat, was paying players to deliberately HURT other players in a professional sport. And that the FANS who want to some how oddly justify it or defend the act because it's a rough sport, and it's a supposedly accepted culture within the sport, are completely, well dumb. But since you brought it up, yes, the players are still guilty; it's called being an accessory to a crime.
ratchoke99 Rookie Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 12

04-05-2012, 07:46 PM	#4
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Originally Posted by ratchoke99 Please state where I said that..... I stated multiple times, this is a discussion of how GW/FO did something completely immoral. Which I'll once again repeat, was paying players to deliberately HURT other players in a professional sport. And that the FANS who want to some how oddly justify it or defend the act because it's a rough sport, and it's a supposedly accepted culture within the sport, are completely, well dumb. But since you brought it up, yes, the players are still guilty; it's called being an accessory to a crime. Where is your evidence??? Are you speculating? I haven't heard an audio or seen a video yet with money offered up or cart off comments made. In the United States of America, you are innocent until PROVEN guilty.......unless Obama changed that too.

04-05-2012, 07:48 PM	#5
ratchoke99 Rookie Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 12	Originally Posted by gandhi1007 Where is your evidence??? Are you speculating? I haven't heard an audio or seen a video yet with money offered up or cart off comments made. In the United States of America, you are innocent until PROVEN guilty.......unless Obama changed that too. AGAIN, GOODELL has OFFICIALLY stated they have HARD evidence. That is MY evidence, I don't work in the industry, so how can I present you with those? Why would GOODELL risk his career/reputation for some personal vendetta for something w/ NO evidence?
ratchoke99 Rookie Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 12

04-05-2012, 08:22 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,491	Originally Posted by ratchoke99 AGAIN, GOODELL has OFFICIALLY stated they have HARD evidence. That is MY evidence, I don't work in the industry, so how can I present you with those? Why would GOODELL risk his career/reputation for some personal vendetta for something w/ NO evidence? He has NEVER stated he had any HARD evidence on players. In fact, after he gave the expanded reports to the NFLPA De Smith said that there was nothing in the reports that would justify any punishment upon players.

04-05-2012, 06:57 PM	#1
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	It's ok, according to rat if you tell someone to do something and they don't do it then they're still guilty because you told them to do it.

04-06-2012, 11:45 PM	#7
pherein failclownHunter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: N.O. and V.A. Posts: 2,260 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by ratchoke99 AGAIN, GOODELL has OFFICIALLY stated they have HARD evidence. That is MY evidence, I don't work in the industry, so how can I present you with those? Why would GOODELL risk his career/reputation for some personal vendetta for something w/ NO evidence? Dude, you have 0 likes so far, and thats hard to believe. Lots of other fans come on this board and don't agree with us, and do just fine. It might be your approach on a sore subject. This isn't the "Colston is the best WR" thread. We are not happy about this, and most will defend this team until we see evidence to prove anyones involvement. Saying Goodell said it won't wash in almost any teams forum in the NFL. Goodell is not liked by most fans universally.

04-07-2012, 09:06 AM	#8
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by ratchoke99 AGAIN, GOODELL has OFFICIALLY stated they have HARD evidence. That is MY evidence, I don't work in the industry, so how can I present you with those? Why would GOODELL risk his career/reputation for some personal vendetta for something w/ NO evidence? Goodell? Isn't that he the guy who destroyed all the spygate 'evidence' so...uh hem...'other teams wouldn't see it'? Yeah, I'm just going to blindly accept anything THAT guy says. breesfan27 and pherein like this.

04-05-2012, 08:20 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,491	Originally Posted by ratchoke99 Please state where I said that..... I stated multiple times, this is a discussion of how GW/FO did something completely immoral. Which I'll once again repeat, was paying players to deliberately HURT other players in a professional sport. And that the FANS who want to some how oddly justify it or defend the act because it's a rough sport, and it's a supposedly accepted culture within the sport, are completely, well dumb. But since you brought it up, yes, the players are still guilty; it's called being an accessory to a crime. No, Gregg Williams was offering to pay to injure. There is no proof that any player fell for the idiot's demands and actually followed through. Nobody would justify that. What we are defending is that we refuse to believe that our players actually did what Williams wanted. And how are the players guilty? There has been no proof that any of them actually tried to injure, not simply hurt, an opponent for pay. I agree that Williams is scum, but just because players were sitting in the room listening to the moron doesn't mean they bought int ohis delusions.

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