Brees "close" to signing long-term deal.

Halo · 04-13-2012, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Brandon428

I think he’ll be signed to a fair deal by next weekend. We need to find a TE and WR to give Brees more weapons.

What about Graham? What about Colston? We've been so loaded that losing a few WR's didn't make much of a dent.

gandhi1007 · 04-13-2012, 04:44 PM

Meachem was not much of a loss. We have everyone else back. Why do we need to find a WR or TE when we are already solid there? Was it a typo for DT or DE???

papz · 04-13-2012, 04:45 PM

A source tells the New Orleans Times-Picayune that unsigned franchise player Drew Brees is "very upset" he won't be able to attend the Saints' offseason program beginning on Monday.

With all due respect to Brees, he could attend if he really wanted by signing his one-year franchise tender. "It is very upsetting to him not being there Monday," the source said. "He wants to be there for his teammates." The Times-Picayune confirms that contract talks "have been practically nonexistent" between Brees and the Saints over the past few weeks.

Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune

BGWhoDat · 04-13-2012, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by papz

A source tells the New Orleans Times-Picayune that unsigned franchise player Drew Brees is "very upset" he won't be able to attend the Saints' offseason program beginning on Monday.

With all due respect to Brees, he could attend if he really wanted by signing his one-year franchise tender. "It is very upsetting to him not being there Monday," the source said. "He wants to be there for his teammates." The Times-Picayune confirms that contract talks "have been practically nonexistent" between Brees and the Saints over the past few weeks.

Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune

That's all included in my piece also, including them as the source for him not attending. Thanks, Pap.

|Mitch| · 04-13-2012, 06:09 PM

I'm already so sick of this offseason and the draft hasn't even got here yet.

The preseason needs to hurry up and start!

UK_WhoDat · 04-13-2012, 04:51 PM

Why on earth would he sign, knowing that B&G MUDBUGS III is on April 21st?

ScottF · 04-13-2012, 07:02 PM

ESPN keeps reporting how involved Benson is-- pretty busy guy these days. Can't recall last time he was mentioned in contract negotiations

skymike · 04-13-2012, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

ESPN keeps reporting how involved Benson is-- pretty busy guy these days. Can't recall last time he was mentioned in contract negotiations

exactly. i thought the same thing... this is a special situation, requiring super special attention.

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

Why on earth would he sign, knowing that B&G MUDBUGS III is on April 21st?

you nailed it! Drew Brees, in case you didnt get my invite, you are invited. B&G MudBugs III - hosted by the Hou-Dats/Houston / SE TX Chapter of WhoDat Nation @ Skymikes dangerous* but awesome swamphouse, on Old River, TX. (see thread)

*if you are afraid of guns, fire, gators, snakes, mosquitos, heat, gas guzzling trucks, backwoods people, unhealthy food, or anything southern, this party is not for you.

spkb25 · 04-13-2012, 07:27 PM

Im gonna lose a lot of respect for him if he doesn't show up. plain and simple. I'll support him when he gets back, but I think I'll look at him a little differently from here on out

W. Kovacs · 04-13-2012, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Im gonna lose a lot of respect for him if he doesn't show up. plain and simple. I'll support him when he gets back, but I think I'll look at him a little differently from here on out

I sort of agreed with you until this morning. On SportsCenter or NFL Network (I was in a hotel, not really sure which I was watching) they showed the tackle where Brees blew out his shoulder.

As someone who has had his shoulder reconstructed and is desperately trying to avoid the same surgery on the other side, I nearly vomited it looked so bad.

I know that playing under the tag had nothing to do with the injury. I also know that playing under the tag now does nothing to increase the odds that he'll have an injury like that again. But if that happened to me the last time I played under a tag, I'd say thanks, but no thanks. (If I was Drew, I mean. If someone offered me $14mm a year to play football right now, I'd be the tackling dummy for that much cash!)

This is also his last chance to get a huge contract. If he signs the tag, he can't hold out any more because he'll be under contract to play. If he gets injured in the weight room at an offseason practice and can't play again, he's effed.

Also, these activities are VERY limited. Weight lifting, conditioning, stuff like that. Coaches can't be on the fields with players, they're not even allowed to use footballs in most workouts!

Real OTAs start next month.

And let's not forget to take into account that The Saints aren't exactly without fault, here. They could have signed Drew to a long term extension before he went out and had arguably, the best year a QB ever had and jacked up his price. Or they could have signed him as soon as they heard stuff was coming down about the Bounty Scandal and Drew's leverage went through the roof. They did neither.

Imagine your job and the following scenario:
1. You've been doing your job exceptionally well for the last 5 years.
2. There is no one available internally or externally who can do your job as well as you.
3. There is a HUGE project coming up where you're expertise is vital.
4. It's annual review time and there are other companies who would practically kill to have you on their staff.

Are you not going to do everything in your power to negotiate the best raise you possibly can?

Would I think MORE highly of him if he went? Probably. But if he doesn't: no big deal...

04-13-2012, 04:36 PM	#1
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,907 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by Brandon428 I think he’ll be signed to a fair deal by next weekend. We need to find a TE and WR to give Brees more weapons. What about Graham? What about Colston? We've been so loaded that losing a few WR's didn't make much of a dent. spkb25 likes this.

04-13-2012, 04:44 PM	#2
gandhi1007 Part Time Pimp Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,967	Meachem was not much of a loss. We have everyone else back. Why do we need to find a WR or TE when we are already solid there? Was it a typo for DT or DE??? spkb25 likes this.

04-13-2012, 04:45 PM	#3
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,798	A source tells the New Orleans Times-Picayune that unsigned franchise player Drew Brees is "very upset" he won't be able to attend the Saints' offseason program beginning on Monday. With all due respect to Brees, he could attend if he really wanted by signing his one-year franchise tender. "It is very upsetting to him not being there Monday," the source said. "He wants to be there for his teammates." The Times-Picayune confirms that contract talks "have been practically nonexistent" between Brees and the Saints over the past few weeks. Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune ScottF likes this.

04-13-2012, 06:03 PM	#4
BGWhoDat Who Dat Writer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 241	Originally Posted by papz A source tells the New Orleans Times-Picayune that unsigned franchise player Drew Brees is "very upset" he won't be able to attend the Saints' offseason program beginning on Monday. With all due respect to Brees, he could attend if he really wanted by signing his one-year franchise tender. "It is very upsetting to him not being there Monday," the source said. "He wants to be there for his teammates." The Times-Picayune confirms that contract talks "have been practically nonexistent" between Brees and the Saints over the past few weeks. Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune That's all included in my piece also, including them as the source for him not attending. Thanks, Pap.

04-13-2012, 04:51 PM	#6
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,004	Why on earth would he sign, knowing that B&G MUDBUGS III is on April 21st? foreverfan, skymike and SloMotion like this.

04-13-2012, 06:09 PM	#5
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	I'm already so sick of this offseason and the draft hasn't even got here yet. The preseason needs to hurry up and start!

04-13-2012, 07:02 PM	#7
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	ESPN keeps reporting how involved Benson is-- pretty busy guy these days. Can't recall last time he was mentioned in contract negotiations

04-13-2012, 07:11 PM	#8
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Originally Posted by ScottF ESPN keeps reporting how involved Benson is-- pretty busy guy these days. Can't recall last time he was mentioned in contract negotiations exactly. i thought the same thing... this is a special situation, requiring super special attention. Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat Why on earth would he sign, knowing that B&G MUDBUGS III is on April 21st? you nailed it! Drew Brees, in case you didnt get my invite, you are invited. B&G MudBugs III - hosted by the *Hou-Dats/Houston / SE TX Chapter of WhoDat Nation @ Skymikes dangerous but awesome swamphouse, on Old River, TX.** (see thread) *if you are afraid of guns, fire, gators, snakes, mosquitos, heat, gas guzzling trucks, backwoods people, unhealthy food, or anything southern, this party is not for you. UK_WhoDat likes this.

04-13-2012, 07:27 PM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Im gonna lose a lot of respect for him if he doesn't show up. plain and simple. I'll support him when he gets back, but I think I'll look at him a little differently from here on out

04-13-2012, 10:49 PM	#10
W. Kovacs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 514	Originally Posted by spkb25 Im gonna lose a lot of respect for him if he doesn't show up. plain and simple. I'll support him when he gets back, but I think I'll look at him a little differently from here on out I sort of agreed with you until this morning. On SportsCenter or NFL Network (I was in a hotel, not really sure which I was watching) they showed the tackle where Brees blew out his shoulder. As someone who has had his shoulder reconstructed and is desperately trying to avoid the same surgery on the other side, I nearly vomited it looked so bad. I know that playing under the tag had nothing to do with the injury. I also know that playing under the tag now does nothing to increase the odds that he'll have an injury like that again. But if that happened to me the last time I played under a tag, I'd say thanks, but no thanks. (If I was Drew, I mean. If someone offered me $14mm a year to play football right now, I'd be the tackling dummy for that much cash!) This is also his last chance to get a huge contract. If he signs the tag, he can't hold out any more because he'll be under contract to play. If he gets injured in the weight room at an offseason practice and can't play again, he's effed. Also, these activities are VERY limited. Weight lifting, conditioning, stuff like that. Coaches can't be on the fields with players, they're not even allowed to use footballs in most workouts! Real OTAs start next month. And let's not forget to take into account that The Saints aren't exactly without fault, here. They could have signed Drew to a long term extension before he went out and had arguably, the best year a QB ever had and jacked up his price. Or they could have signed him as soon as they heard stuff was coming down about the Bounty Scandal and Drew's leverage went through the roof. They did neither. Imagine your job and the following scenario: 1. You've been doing your job exceptionally well for the last 5 years. 2. There is no one available internally or externally who can do your job as well as you. 3. There is a HUGE project coming up where you're expertise is vital. 4. It's annual review time and there are other companies who would practically kill to have you on their staff. Are you not going to do everything in your power to negotiate the best raise you possibly can? Would I think MORE highly of him if he went? Probably. But if he doesn't: no big deal... BGWhoDat likes this.