NFL.com reporter says Jon Vilma bracing for 2-6 game suspension

WhoDat!656 · 04-16-2012, 10:46 AM

nfl.com — Jonathan Vilma is bracing for a suspension between two to eight games, according to sources who have been in contact with the New Orleans Saints linebacker. Vilma, his representatives and the NFL Players Association are unsure of exactly what discipline will be handed down at this point, but with Vilma the only player named in information released to the public, the player expects the discipline to be at least a few games, sources said.

NFL.com news: Jonathan Vilma expecting heavy 'bounty'-related suspension

SaintsBro · 04-16-2012, 11:14 AM

Well from what I heard, that's what Payton thought he was getting before his suspension came down, so I get the feeling that Vilma is going to be out of football for a long, long time. I think it's going to be no less than a year if not indefinite.

|Mitch| · 04-16-2012, 11:16 AM

I don't think the NFLPA will let that happen, besides they have to see some evidence first and the NFL won't give it up...

AsylumGuido · 04-16-2012, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I don't think the NFLPA will let that happen, besides they have to see some evidence first and the NFL won't give it up...

It's hard to give something up that you don't have.

FinSaint · 04-16-2012, 12:18 PM

This sounds positive. I'd be happy with him getting 2 to 6 games if they have some evidence of his guilt, but I'd naturally prefer none of the players to be suspended.

BGWhoDat · 04-16-2012, 12:29 PM

Payton thought the same thing, look where that got him.

Not to be a downer - but Vilma put up 10k, made a target. Just as guilty as Williams.

FinSaint · 04-16-2012, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by BGWhoDat

Payton thought the same thing, look where that got him.

Not to be a downer - but Vilma put up 10k, made a target. Just as guilty as Williams.

I don't know about that, since it was GW who instituted this practice in the scale it was, and administered the whole thing.

I just wonder if they actually have evidence about the 10K or if it's all just circumstantial and hear-say.

BGWhoDat · 04-16-2012, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I don't know about that, since it was GW who instituted this practice in the scale it was, and administered the whole thing.

I just wonder if they actually have evidence about the 10K or if it's all just circumstantial and hear-say.

Well, of course they'd need to prove that he actually did it. I agree there. I'm just thinking in Goodell's eyes, Williams and Vilma go hand to hand if Vilma did that. Can't see anything under a season suspension for him. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But if I'm the Commissioner and if I'm following logic of it - Vilma is promoting the same act by doing this that Williams was promoting. Therefore a year suspension is in tact.

Just my thinking.

AsylumGuido · 04-16-2012, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by BGWhoDat

Well, of course they'd need to prove that he actually did it. I agree there. I'm just thinking in Goodell's eyes, Williams and Vilma go hand to hand if Vilma did that. Can't see anything under a season suspension for him. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But if I'm the Commissioner and if I'm following logic of it - Vilma is promoting the same act by doing this that Williams was promoting. Therefore a year suspension is in tact.

Just my thinking.

But there are two key differences. Goodell has repeatedly said that he holds coaches to a higher standard than players. According to his stated philosophy, even with absolute proof, Vilma should not received as stringent a penalty. The other major point is that coaches do not have a union and therefore they have no leverage when it comes to fighting penalties.

BGWhoDat · 04-16-2012, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

But there are two key differences. Goodell has repeatedly said that he holds coaches to a higher standard than players. According to his stated philosophy, even with absolute proof, Vilma should not received as stringent a penalty. The other major point is that coaches do not have a union and therefore they have no leverage when it comes to fighting penalties.

We'll have to see. Hopefully he stays along with those guidelines. Good points though, Guido.

04-16-2012, 10:46 AM	#1
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	NFL.com reporter says Jon Vilma bracing for 2-6 game suspension nfl.com — Jonathan Vilma is bracing for a suspension between two to eight games, according to sources who have been in contact with the New Orleans Saints linebacker. Vilma, his representatives and the NFL Players Association are unsure of exactly what discipline will be handed down at this point, but with Vilma the only player named in information released to the public, the player expects the discipline to be at least a few games, sources said. NFL.com news: Jonathan Vilma expecting heavy 'bounty'-related suspension

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	I don't think the NFLPA will let that happen, besides they have to see some evidence first and the NFL won't give it up... FinSaint likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,565	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| I don't think the NFLPA will let that happen, besides they have to see some evidence first and the NFL won't give it up... It's hard to give something up that you don't have. Tobias-Reiper likes this.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	Originally Posted by BGWhoDat Payton thought the same thing, look where that got him. Not to be a downer - but Vilma put up 10k, made a target. Just as guilty as Williams. I don't know about that, since it was GW who instituted this practice in the scale it was, and administered the whole thing. I just wonder if they actually have evidence about the 10K or if it's all just circumstantial and hear-say.

04-16-2012, 12:44 PM	#8
BGWhoDat Who Dat Writer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 241	Originally Posted by FinSaint I don't know about that, since it was GW who instituted this practice in the scale it was, and administered the whole thing. I just wonder if they actually have evidence about the 10K or if it's all just circumstantial and hear-say. Well, of course they'd need to prove that he actually did it. I agree there. I'm just thinking in Goodell's eyes, Williams and Vilma go hand to hand if Vilma did that. Can't see anything under a season suspension for him. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But if I'm the Commissioner and if I'm following logic of it - Vilma is promoting the same act by doing this that Williams was promoting. Therefore a year suspension is in tact. Just my thinking.

04-16-2012, 11:14 AM	#2
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Well from what I heard, that's what Payton thought he was getting before his suspension came down, so I get the feeling that Vilma is going to be out of football for a long, long time. I think it's going to be no less than a year if not indefinite.

04-16-2012, 12:18 PM	#5
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,963	This sounds positive. I'd be happy with him getting 2 to 6 games if they have some evidence of his guilt, but I'd naturally prefer none of the players to be suspended.

04-16-2012, 12:29 PM	#6
BGWhoDat Who Dat Writer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 241	Payton thought the same thing, look where that got him. Not to be a downer - but Vilma put up 10k, made a target. Just as guilty as Williams.

04-16-2012, 12:52 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,565	Originally Posted by BGWhoDat Well, of course they'd need to prove that he actually did it. I agree there. I'm just thinking in Goodell's eyes, Williams and Vilma go hand to hand if Vilma did that. Can't see anything under a season suspension for him. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But if I'm the Commissioner and if I'm following logic of it - Vilma is promoting the same act by doing this that Williams was promoting. Therefore a year suspension is in tact. Just my thinking. But there are two key differences. Goodell has repeatedly said that he holds coaches to a higher standard than players. According to his stated philosophy, even with absolute proof, Vilma should not received as stringent a penalty. The other major point is that coaches do not have a union and therefore they have no leverage when it comes to fighting penalties. FinSaint likes this.

04-16-2012, 12:56 PM	#10
BGWhoDat Who Dat Writer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 241	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido But there are two key differences. Goodell has repeatedly said that he holds coaches to a higher standard than players. According to his stated philosophy, even with absolute proof, Vilma should not received as stringent a penalty. The other major point is that coaches do not have a union and therefore they have no leverage when it comes to fighting penalties. We'll have to see. Hopefully he stays along with those guidelines. Good points though, Guido.

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