Off-season villians

Seer1 · 04-16-2012, 06:48 PM

Maybe add tofu to the list? We have a six-way tie here and need a tie breaker.

FinSaint · 04-16-2012, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Lex Luthor?

I've always been partial to the Penguin.

iceshack149 · 04-16-2012, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

I am sticking with Williams- he was the architect and brought this crap on us

What a dope for making those comments while the camera was rolling.

By the way, what did Shockey do to deserve to be on the list?

neugey · 04-16-2012, 07:16 PM

Sapp should be on the poll, not Shockey! For making that very likely false accusation about Shockey.

jcp026 · 04-16-2012, 07:22 PM

Sean Payton, Mickey Loomis, and Gregg Williams. It was their fault.

burningmetal · 04-16-2012, 07:36 PM

My vote is Goodell, simply because he allowed all the sensationalism to get to him, then let it spread, nurtured it, and has been working tirelessly to sustain it ever since.

Cerullo is a pig for starting this BS but if Roger were anything but a vengeful brat he would have sought truth, and in so doing would have squashed these claims before they even became a second thought.

burningmetal · 04-16-2012, 07:49 PM

If I were to rank them in order it would be like this:

#1 Roger Goodell
#2 Mike Cerullo
#3 Sean Pamphilon
#4 The Media
#5 Gregg Williams

I could care less about Shockey, since it's obvious Cerullo was the whistle blower. Pamphilon released audio leaving out comments by Williams that could have actually defended his and the Saints' case, and stabbed Steve Gleason in the back in the process. The media is next because they have taken the torch from Goodell and done everything they possibly can to hide evidence and paint a picture of near murderous proportions.

In my opinion, Williams is only guilty of being the one DC who got caught spewing what is very typical rhetoric, and not toning it down when cameras were in the room. The guy is arrogant, but I don't think he intended to hurt anyone, as is evident by the fact no one was ever carted off. And I didn't appreciate that he never mentioned the Saints or it's fans in his apology.

FinSaint · 04-16-2012, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

And I didn't appreciate that he never mentioned the Saints or it's fans in his apology.

What do you expect when he was clearly reading a statement prepared by Goodell?

burningmetal · 04-16-2012, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

What do you expect when he was clearly reading a statement prepared by Goodell?

Well that's just it, he acted like a pawn and didn't show any sympathy for us.
He let himself get bullied into his statements.

ScottF · 04-16-2012, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

in retrospect this would have been a better choice than Shockey, who as of yet have not been vindicated, but would still rank 7th in this group

oh, sorry about the link-- try right clicking it instead...

View Poll Results: Of the large cast of villians, who was the worst this off-season?
Jeremy Shockey	1	2.13%
Greg Williams	6	12.77%
Sean Pamphilon	5	10.64%
Roger Goodell	21	44.68%
Media (Clayton, Doyel, Florio, etc)	17	36.17%
Mike Cerullo	10	21.28%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll

04-16-2012, 06:51 PM	#12
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Lex Luthor? I've always been partial to the Penguin.

04-16-2012, 07:06 PM	#13
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	Originally Posted by ScottF I am sticking with Williams- he was the architect and brought this crap on us What a dope for making those comments while the camera was rolling. By the way, what did Shockey do to deserve to be on the list?

04-16-2012, 07:22 PM	#15
jcp026 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 951	Sean Payton, Mickey Loomis, and Gregg Williams. It was their fault.
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04-16-2012, 07:36 PM	#16
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	My vote is Goodell, simply because he allowed all the sensationalism to get to him, then let it spread, nurtured it, and has been working tirelessly to sustain it ever since. Cerullo is a pig for starting this BS but if Roger were anything but a vengeful brat he would have sought truth, and in so doing would have squashed these claims before they even became a second thought. ScottF likes this.

04-16-2012, 06:48 PM	#11
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Maybe add tofu to the list? We have a six-way tie here and need a tie breaker.

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04-16-2012, 07:16 PM	#14
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Sapp should be on the poll, not Shockey! For making that very likely false accusation about Shockey.

04-16-2012, 07:49 PM	#17
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	If I were to rank them in order it would be like this: #1 Roger Goodell #2 Mike Cerullo #3 Sean Pamphilon #4 The Media #5 Gregg Williams I could care less about Shockey, since it's obvious Cerullo was the whistle blower. Pamphilon released audio leaving out comments by Williams that could have actually defended his and the Saints' case, and stabbed Steve Gleason in the back in the process. The media is next because they have taken the torch from Goodell and done everything they possibly can to hide evidence and paint a picture of near murderous proportions. In my opinion, Williams is only guilty of being the one DC who got caught spewing what is very typical rhetoric, and not toning it down when cameras were in the room. The guy is arrogant, but I don't think he intended to hurt anyone, as is evident by the fact no one was ever carted off. And I didn't appreciate that he never mentioned the Saints or it's fans in his apology.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

04-16-2012, 07:54 PM	#18
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by burningmetal And I didn't appreciate that he never mentioned the Saints or it's fans in his apology. What do you expect when he was clearly reading a statement prepared by Goodell?

04-16-2012, 09:39 PM	#19
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by FinSaint What do you expect when he was clearly reading a statement prepared by Goodell? Well that's just it, he acted like a pawn and didn't show any sympathy for us. He let himself get bullied into his statements.

04-16-2012, 10:02 PM	#20
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Originally Posted by FinSaint in retrospect this would have been a better choice than Shockey, who as of yet have not been vindicated, but would still rank 7th in this group oh, sorry about the link-- try right clicking it instead... FinSaint likes this.