Evidenciary BS

Michigan_SF · 04-17-2012, 10:27 PM

[QUOTE=JimmyB1775;398280]In the real world, over here in America where most of us live, a case goes through a series of appeals until it's heard by the highest court in the land. The Supreme Court. A PANEL! After a decision is made, there is still the checks and balances of Congress who can overturn a decision with a 2/3 majority (I think).

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1) Most litigation ends at the trial court level. Some cases go to appeal. Less than 100 are heard by the Supreme Court each year.

2) No one can "overturn" the Supreme Court except the Supreme Court in a later case. If the Court strikes down a law, Congress can enact a new one to get around the ruling. However, the new law is still subject to judicial review.

JimmyB1775 · 04-18-2012, 09:27 AM

[quote=Michigan_SF;398470]

Originally Posted by JimmyB1775

In the real world, over here in America where most of us live, a case goes through a series of appeals until it's heard by the highest court in the land. The Supreme Court. A PANEL! After a decision is made, there is still the checks and balances of Congress who can overturn a decision with a 2/3 majority (I think).

QUOTE]

1) Most litigation ends at the trial court level. Some cases go to appeal. Less than 100 are heard by the Supreme Court each year.

2) No one can "overturn" the Supreme Court except the Supreme Court in a later case. If the Court strikes down a law, Congress can enact a new one to get around the ruling. However, the new law is still subject to judicial review.

1) Cases don't go to appeal by the same judge a week later with the same jury

2) So what? So you're saying a DIFFERENT group on the Supreme Court can overturn it? But not the same group? Or perhaps a group of MORE members if Congress deems it so. I know they can do that. Regardless, nobody is making sure Goodell isn't screwing teams. The only protection I see from anyone is the NFLPA but their responsibilities are limited to players only. And to be honest, the players are the talent and nothing more. Without the talent, they are being shuffled in and out of the practice squads.

Michigan_SF · 04-21-2012, 04:49 PM

[quote=JimmyB1775;398534]

Originally Posted by Michigan_SF

2) So what? So you're saying a DIFFERENT group on the Supreme Court can overturn it? But not the same group? Or perhaps a group of MORE members if Congress deems it so. I know they can do that. Regardless, nobody is making sure Goodell isn't screwing teams. The only protection I see from anyone is the NFLPA but their responsibilities are limited to players only. And to be honest, the players are the talent and nothing more. Without the talent, they are being shuffled in and out of the practice squads.

I'm telling you only that:

(a) Congress cannot overturn a Supreme Court decision;
(b) Congress can enact a new law;
(c) The SCOTUS is the only court that can overturn a SCOTUS holding;
(d) It does not matter who the particular justices are with respect to (c).

This has nothing to do with football. I am just trying to help supplement your education in this area.

04-17-2012, 10:27 PM	#1
Michigan_SF 100th Post Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 407	[QUOTE=JimmyB1775;398280]In the real world, over here in America where most of us live, a case goes through a series of appeals until it's heard by the highest court in the land. The Supreme Court. A PANEL! After a decision is made, there is still the checks and balances of Congress who can overturn a decision with a 2/3 majority (I think). QUOTE] 1) Most litigation ends at the trial court level. Some cases go to appeal. Less than 100 are heard by the Supreme Court each year. 2) No one can "overturn" the Supreme Court except the Supreme Court in a later case. If the Court strikes down a law, Congress can enact a new one to get around the ruling. However, the new law is still subject to judicial review.
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04-18-2012, 09:27 AM	#2
JimmyB1775 100th Post Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 216 Blog Entries: 1	[quote=Michigan_SF;398470] Originally Posted by JimmyB1775 In the real world, over here in America where most of us live, a case goes through a series of appeals until it's heard by the highest court in the land. The Supreme Court. A PANEL! After a decision is made, there is still the checks and balances of Congress who can overturn a decision with a 2/3 majority (I think). QUOTE] 1) Most litigation ends at the trial court level. Some cases go to appeal. Less than 100 are heard by the Supreme Court each year. 2) No one can "overturn" the Supreme Court except the Supreme Court in a later case. If the Court strikes down a law, Congress can enact a new one to get around the ruling. However, the new law is still subject to judicial review. 1) Cases don't go to appeal by the same judge a week later with the same jury 2) So what? So you're saying a DIFFERENT group on the Supreme Court can overturn it? But not the same group? Or perhaps a group of MORE members if Congress deems it so. I know they can do that. Regardless, nobody is making sure Goodell isn't screwing teams. The only protection I see from anyone is the NFLPA but their responsibilities are limited to players only. And to be honest, the players are the talent and nothing more. Without the talent, they are being shuffled in and out of the practice squads.

04-21-2012, 04:49 PM	#3
Michigan_SF 100th Post Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 407	[quote=JimmyB1775;398534] Originally Posted by Michigan_SF 2) So what? So you're saying a DIFFERENT group on the Supreme Court can overturn it? But not the same group? Or perhaps a group of MORE members if Congress deems it so. I know they can do that. Regardless, nobody is making sure Goodell isn't screwing teams. The only protection I see from anyone is the NFLPA but their responsibilities are limited to players only. And to be honest, the players are the talent and nothing more. Without the talent, they are being shuffled in and out of the practice squads. I'm telling you only that: (a) Congress cannot overturn a Supreme Court decision; (b) Congress can enact a new law; (c) The SCOTUS is the only court that can overturn a SCOTUS holding; (d) It does not matter who the particular justices are with respect to (c). This has nothing to do with football. I am just trying to help supplement your education in this area.
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