Article: Are The Saints Being Railroaded?

SaintPauly · 04-18-2012, 10:02 PM

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LivnaLieTimay · 04-18-2012, 10:31 PM

Very good read that expresses the opinions of many Saints fans. Like many of us have been saying; why hasn't anyone seen these "50,000" pages of evidence and where's the proof of pay to injure? Unfortunately the NFL is a dictatorship, and Dictator Goodell doesn't have to answer to anyone.

AlaskaSaints · 04-19-2012, 12:12 AM

I said from day one; NO body, NO crime.

Alaska

iceshack149 · 04-19-2012, 12:17 AM

And the NFL still hasn't fined or suspended any Saints players. I suppose that will happen on Monday, after the draft.

NOLA54 · 04-19-2012, 12:37 AM

As I keep saying, why wait 3 years to administer so called punishment? Why wait till New Orleans hosts the super bowl? Was there some concerns that the Saints could be the first team to play the super bowl in their own home town? Could someone or someones be trying to level the playing field by throwing roadblocks in our way? It's feeling like there is more to this than "they" want us to know.

saintfan · 04-19-2012, 05:37 AM

That's just bloody brilliant. Preach on!

AsylumGuido · 04-19-2012, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay

Very good read that expresses the opinions of many Saints fans. Like many of us have been saying; why hasn't anyone seen these "50,000" pages of evidence and where's the proof of pay to injure? Unfortunately the NFL is a dictatorship, and Dictator Goodell doesn't have to answer to anyone.

This in itself is great misunderstanding in the press. There never was 50,000 pages of actual evidence. The league requested and was given access to the Saints' emails which are hosted on the league's server. There were 18,000 emails (documents) that consisted of 50,000 printed pages. The vast majority had absolutely no relevance to any subject under investigation. This is where they found the single email from Ornstein which referred to a bounty in the postscript. For the record, Payton has stated that he had never read the email and Ornstein has "claimed he was kidding about the monetary pledge".

SapperSaint · 04-19-2012, 11:07 AM

Thank God there is some sanity out there in the media.

UK_WhoDat · 04-20-2012, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by 73Saint

...... We live in a time when society believes everything the media spews at them .....

Yep.

And generally society wants it that way. The more dramatic the news, the more they crave it. Not thinking deep enough, thinking:
Really? How did that come about? Where is the detail behind that? ....

UK_WhoDat · 04-20-2012, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This in itself is great misunderstanding in the press. There never was 50,000 pages of actual evidence. .....

There were 18,000 emails (documents) that consisted of 50,000 printed pages. .....

This is where they found the single email from Ornstein which referred to a bounty in the postscript. For the record, Payton has stated that he had never read the email and Ornstein has "claimed he was kidding about the monetary pledge".

Yep!. The public needs to have a good think about this. 50,000 pages is ONE HUNDRED reams of paper. With goodness knows how many sentences. And they find one single email ......... that refers to 3 years of bounty.

Interesting

04-19-2012, 12:12 AM	#13
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	I said from day one; NO body, NO crime. Alaska Rugby Saint II likes this.

04-19-2012, 10:35 AM	#17
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,241	Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay Very good read that expresses the opinions of many Saints fans. Like many of us have been saying; why hasn't anyone seen these "50,000" pages of evidence and where's the proof of pay to injure? Unfortunately the NFL is a dictatorship, and Dictator Goodell doesn't have to answer to anyone. This in itself is great misunderstanding in the press. There never was 50,000 pages of actual evidence. The league requested and was given access to the Saints' emails which are hosted on the league's server. There were 18,000 emails (documents) that consisted of 50,000 printed pages. The vast majority had absolutely no relevance to any subject under investigation. This is where they found the single email from Ornstein which referred to a bounty in the postscript. For the record, Payton has stated that he had never read the email and Ornstein has "claimed he was kidding about the monetary pledge".

04-20-2012, 02:01 PM	#19
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,947	Originally Posted by 73Saint ...... We live in a time when society believes everything the media spews at them ..... Yep. And generally society wants it that way. The more dramatic the news, the more they crave it. Not thinking deep enough, thinking: Really? How did that come about? Where is the detail behind that? ....

04-20-2012, 02:13 PM	#20
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,947	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This in itself is great misunderstanding in the press. There never was 50,000 pages of actual evidence. ..... There were 18,000 emails (documents) that consisted of 50,000 printed pages. ..... This is where they found the single email from Ornstein which referred to a bounty in the postscript. For the record, Payton has stated that he had never read the email and Ornstein has "claimed he was kidding about the monetary pledge". Yep!. The public needs to have a good think about this. 50,000 pages is ONE HUNDRED reams of paper. With goodness knows how many sentences. And they find one single email ......... that refers to 3 years of bounty. Interesting

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04-18-2012, 10:31 PM	#12
LivnaLieTimay 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,498	Very good read that expresses the opinions of many Saints fans. Like many of us have been saying; why hasn't anyone seen these "50,000" pages of evidence and where's the proof of pay to injure? Unfortunately the NFL is a dictatorship, and Dictator Goodell doesn't have to answer to anyone.

04-19-2012, 12:17 AM	#14
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,258 Blog Entries: 1	And the NFL still hasn't fined or suspended any Saints players. I suppose that will happen on Monday, after the draft.

04-19-2012, 12:37 AM	#15
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	As I keep saying, why wait 3 years to administer so called punishment? Why wait till New Orleans hosts the super bowl? Was there some concerns that the Saints could be the first team to play the super bowl in their own home town? Could someone or someones be trying to level the playing field by throwing roadblocks in our way? It's feeling like there is more to this than "they" want us to know.

04-19-2012, 05:37 AM	#16
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	That's just bloody brilliant. Preach on!

04-19-2012, 11:07 AM	#18
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Thank God there is some sanity out there in the media.