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BGWhoDat 04-18-2012 07:32 PM

Should the Saints draft Kellen Moore late?
 
Boise State Quarterback Kellen Moore Should Be Selected Late In Draft By The New Orleans Saints : New Orleans Saints

Lots of comparisons to Drew Brees, likely available 6th-7th round.. thoughts?

Brees scouting report out of college is included in the piece btw.

SaintPauly 04-18-2012 07:33 PM

I like it. That boy can play some ball. His experience under Brees would be great for him as well.

BGWhoDat 04-18-2012 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintPauly (Post 398668)
I like it. That boy can play some ball. His experience under Brees would be great for him as well.

I agree. I seen a game of his live his senior year. I was very impressed.

ChrisXVI 04-18-2012 07:35 PM

Waste of a draft pick for the Saints if they do. With limited draft picks and little remaining cap space why would we draft a back-up QB when we already have Chase Daniel and Sean Canfield... both of whom never see playing time as it is.

SaintPauly 04-18-2012 07:40 PM

At some point, you gotta start looking to the future. Brees is the man, but eventually, he will retire. If they are considering it, then it must be because Daniels, and Canfield just arent getting it done.

BGWhoDat 04-18-2012 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 398672)
Waste of a draft pick for the Saints if they do. With limited draft picks and little remaining cap space why would we draft a back-up QB when we already have Chase Daniel and Sean Canfield... both of whom never see playing time as it is.

I posted why in the piece. I take it you didn't read it though.

Canfield and Daniel are both unrestricted free agents after this season. Release Canfield, develop Moore, because likely Daniel is gone after this season anyways.

WhoDat!656 04-18-2012 07:41 PM

New Orleans Saints visit with Boise State quarterback Kellen Moore - Who Dat Dish - A New Orleans Saints Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.

BGWhoDat 04-18-2012 07:44 PM

Yup, the visit was why it was written.

SmashMouth 04-18-2012 07:45 PM

Sean Canfield is not going to cut it, IMHO. While Moore has a great track record in college as well an uncanny anticipatory football throw. Whether this translates into being good enough in the pros is another matter. But methinks you wamt to draft a QB who has a chance to start eventually. We've seen some flashes with Chase, but none whatsoever with Canfield. If Moore lasts until a late round pick, why not? Especially if the Saints get a few compensatory picks this year...they should get a few.

WhoDat!656 04-18-2012 07:50 PM

"They should get a few."

After what Goodell has done to the Saints, I will be surprised if they let the Saints get the ball to start either half of a single game this year!

BGWhoDat 04-18-2012 07:54 PM

LOL..

ChrisXVI 04-18-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BGWhoDat (Post 398674)
I posted why in the piece. I take it you didn't read it though.

Canfield and Daniel are both unrestricted free agents after this season. Release Canfield, develop Moore, because likely Daniel is gone after this season anyways.

Chase Daniels has been a free agent every year. By the time Drew's future contract is up Kellen Moore will be a free agent too. Why waste a draft pick on such a far-future uncertainty??

AsylumGuido 04-18-2012 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 398672)
Waste of a draft pick for the Saints if they do. With limited draft picks and little remaining cap space why would we draft a back-up QB when we already have Chase Daniel and Sean Canfield... both of whom never see playing time as it is.

Not a waste at all. I have a feeling Chase is going elsewhere soon because we can't protect him when he goes UFA. We need a new version of him on roster for the next few years to back up Brees.

ChrisXVI 04-18-2012 08:02 PM

So why burn a draft pick this year when we still have Chase?? Do it next year.

halloween 65 04-18-2012 08:03 PM

I would take him if we were in dire straights, but we are not.

W. Kovacs 04-18-2012 08:07 PM

YEEEEESSSS.

Getting a guy like this so late in the draft doesn't happen every year. He would be great in our system especially after a few years working with/learning from Drew.

Chase is most likely gone soon. He's not getting younger and I don't see him just sitting on the bench when he could go somewhere and probably compete for a starting job.

I'm a Hokie and I watched Kellen Moore dissect our D in the opening game a few years ago. From what I've heard about him, he's also a really high character guy. I'm telling you, I think this kid could be our future.

ChrisXVI 04-18-2012 08:12 PM

Take another high character guy next year.

SaintPauly 04-18-2012 08:13 PM

If you compare Moore to Brees, the similarities are astounding. Pass accuracy is off the charts. He's obviously got a brain on him as well, which is a major plus. Also, getting picked that late, would be an instant motivation for him to prove his critics wrong.

ChrisXVI 04-18-2012 08:46 PM

My main point is basically that if we draft him in a late round this year, then hit him with a restricted free agent tender for 2 years... he'll still be an unrestricted free agent before Drew's next contract is up. Thus being just like Chase Daniel as everyone has said will be looking to start somewhere else.

BGWhoDat 04-18-2012 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 398687)
So why burn a draft pick this year when we still have Chase?? Do it next year.

Because, you'll have a year into development if he was to take over the number two spot behind Brees. That's a year of studying rather than being a rookie fresh out of college and perhaps having to step into the starting role to replace Brees if he gets injured something.

Whether he'll be a free agent or not you tell him to stick around because the job is his when Brees is gone. Like Rodgers with Favre.

buckblaster1 04-18-2012 10:26 PM

i mentioned kellen moore several weeks ago as a possiable late round steal. this guy is a mirror image of drew. i so go for him

FinSaint 04-18-2012 11:23 PM

I wouldn't be against it in the 7th, but even better if they could get him as an UDFA - still, I predict someone will pull the trigger on him before the Saints reach the point in the draft where they could pick him.

So, I don't think he'll be a Saint once the draft is over.

QBREES9 04-18-2012 11:25 PM

Don't waste the pick !

SapperSaint 04-19-2012 07:30 AM

I say we pick up Austin Davis of Southern Miss as an UDFA. That is if we are looking for a QB. A lot of gems come out of the 6th and 7th. I just can't see using one of those picks on a QB too many other needs, with very limited picks.

Budsdrinker 04-19-2012 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BGWhoDat (Post 398716)
Because, you'll have a year into development if he was to take over the number two spot behind Brees. That's a year of studying rather than being a rookie fresh out of college and perhaps having to step into the starting role to replace Brees if he gets injured something.

Whether he'll be a free agent or not you tell him to stick around because the job is his when Brees is gone. Like Rodgers with Favre.

Yeah but Favre was already 36 years old when they drafted Rodgers. Brees is only 33. I think we can wait a couple more years.

NuNu318 04-19-2012 08:36 AM

I liked him during college he's a winner & all but it seems like to me with his lack of arm strength but crazy anticipation and accuracy he can either be the next Brees or the next Tyler Palko. We'll see...now if he doesn't even get drafted and is an Undrafted FA then I say get him....he will be low risk then because we won't have to pay him hardly anything and he can be the Canfield replacement and you can resign Daniel for 1yr next offseason & have a true backup QB competition next offseason.

darstep 04-19-2012 11:39 AM

I think Chase Daniels is going to get some playing time, some real playing time.
And for that to happen Drew Brees, for whatever reason, would not be playing.
I can't put my finger on it, but things somehpow get out of balance when all that money shows up.
I will be more than happy to be wrong.
The way that this season is unfolding, please let me be wrong.

Rell&Gold 04-19-2012 01:26 PM

Thats not a waste of a Draft pick Brees is getting no younger , by the time retires with us we will have no use for Chase Daniels and Sean Canfield isnt proven yet. We bring In Kellen(Moore) let him sit behind Bress an Co. mature get a couple 4qt blowout games and week 17 games in and Boom! future HOF

Rell&Gold 04-19-2012 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 398672)
Waste of a draft pick for the Saints if they do. With limited draft picks and little remaining cap space why would we draft a back-up QB when we already have Chase Daniel and Sean Canfield... both of whom never see playing time as it is.

Thats not a waste of a Draft pick Brees is getting no younger , by the time retires with us we will have no use for Chase Daniels and Sean Canfield isnt proven yet. We bring In Kellen(Moore) let him sit behind Bress an Co. mature get a couple 4qt blowout games and week 17 games in and Boom! future HOF

SaintsBro 04-19-2012 04:35 PM

They just made Chase into the million dollar man, he got a considerable raise this year. You don't really need another quarterback right now. Especially when you have so ***** FEW draft picks and so many known flaws in your defense, and potentially so many devastating suspensions on defense coming down the pike. If it was not >>>this<<< particular year I think they might do it.

ChrisXVI 04-19-2012 05:46 PM

There's not going to be any devastating suspensions of players dude.

SaintsBro 04-19-2012 05:54 PM

Well everybody thought it was not gonna be a big deal, that Payton would get like 4-6 games and Loomis just a fine, and how well did that turn out. I will wait until the suspensions are actually announced before I say they're not gonna hurt. So far Vilma, Harper and Smith have been mentioned. That's 3 starters.

BGWhoDat 04-19-2012 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 398935)
Well everybody thought it was not gonna be a big deal, that Payton would get like 4-6 games and Loomis just a fine, and how well did that turn out. I will wait until the suspensions are actually announced before I say they're not gonna hurt. So far Vilma, Harper and Smith have been mentioned. That's 3 starters.

Harper is terrible in coverage, Vilma has two legit replacements.

FinSaint 04-19-2012 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BGWhoDat (Post 398941)
Harper is terrible in coverage, Vilma has two legit replacements.


I don't know, this has been discussed before and I think it was Danno who provided some of the stats from the PPV stat site, which showed that he was actually pretty good in coverage against TEs when it comes to strong safeties.

I'm not saying he is great in coverage, because that is clearly not his strength, but he isn't as bad at it as many times is suggested.

Rugby Saint II 04-19-2012 08:24 PM

Every pick has to pay off in the next few years. We don't need him we need every draft pick to be "that gem" we found. OK, realistically if we just get two late round gems we can make up for a draft pick. Not only that we have a few players returning from injury that could be impact players from the start of the season.

iceshack149 04-20-2012 09:22 AM

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Kellen Moore leaves Boise State as college football's winningest quarterback with a 50-3 record, 142 career touchdown passes (second all time), 14,667 passing yards (fifth) and the lowest interception percentage (0.01689) in NCAA history.
But he's now projected to fall to the later rounds. He is creating so little buzz that his father, Tom, describes his son as having become "basically invisible to some people."
Moore is relatively short on arm strength and speed (4.9 in the 40). He excelled at so many little things in fashioning an unprecedented .943 winning percentage as Boise State's four-year starter that coach Chris Petersen describes him as "Mr. Intangible."
If Moore were to be undrafted, which I doubt, I'd love for the Saints to pick him up.




Prospect perceptions: Height still crucial for QBs in draft

jnormand 04-20-2012 12:48 PM

I watched this kid play here in Idaho. He is good. Just like Brees. Smart, doesn't make a lot of mistakes. Very accurate and a great leader. The answer to the question is: YES!!!

FinSaint 04-21-2012 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 399101)
I watched this kid play here in Idaho. He is good. Just like Brees. Smart, doesn't make a lot of mistakes. Very accurate and a great leader. The answer to the question is: YES!!!


How high would you be willing to see the Saints pick him in the draft?

With only 5 picks in the draft, they can't afford to "waste" any of them.


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