Breaking .. Another Saints Scandal

04-23-2012, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Yep, there's the evidence. I mean there couldn't have been any other reason for the 3-13 record that season - clearly they were lost without the electronic eavesdropping.

I'm hoping this turns out to be BS, but in any regards the Pats weren't punished that hard for their Spygate - at least in relation to the Bountygate punishments - and this type of a violation would fall into the same category of competitive edge violations, so because of that precedent the potential punishments would have to be fairly similar.

Except 1) we'll probably get slapped with the "repeat offenders" tag so Rog'll come down even harder on us.

2) We already don't have a first rounder this year, or a second rounder for the next two years. If we lose a first rounder next year (same punishment as the Pats) we're looking at 2 years in a row with no picks until the third round.

Add into that the fact that this could be the end for Loomis (if proven true...have I mentioned that I REALLY hope it's not?) and this could be really, really bad for us.

Saintlyone · 04-23-2012, 03:39 PM

funny how NFL.com hasn't posted anything yet.................yet.

burningmetal · 04-23-2012, 03:46 PM

This is so ridiculous. Even if it were true, which I doubt it is, it's so obvious that everyone is hell bent on digging up anything thing they can find on Loomis and Payton, even if it means going back before their time here.

Because what did everyone say about spygate? "Oh this is what everyone does, but Bill just got caught". That's what we've been screaming about Bountygate, but who is listening? No one in the media, for sure. So now they want to accuse Loomis of eavesdropping, and I'm sure the seagulls (media) will try to say that no one else would do that.

But again, this is nothing more than fishing for garbage.

FinSaint · 04-23-2012, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by W. Kovacs

Except 1) we'll probably get slapped with the "repeat offenders" tag so Rog'll come down even harder on us.

Naturally, but that wouldn't really be fair because this violation had happened earlier than the recent violations, so technically if these accusations turn out to be true - the Bountygate punishments should've been harder with the Saints being "repeat offenders" of sorts, not the other way around.

I think there's a technical (correctional) term for it, but I can't remember what it is at the moment.

burningmetal · 04-23-2012, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Naturally, but that wouldn't really be fair because this violation had happened earlier than the recent violations, so technically if these accusations turn out to be true - the Bountygate punishments should've been harder with the Saints being "repeat offenders" of sorts, not the other way around.

I think there's a technical (correctional) term for it, but I can't remember what it is at the moment.

You're absolutely right, and yet I find myself wondering if that logic will matter in Goodell's court of "flaw".

TheOak · 04-23-2012, 03:49 PM

Sacrebleu!

jnormand · 04-23-2012, 03:49 PM

Look at it this way....at least all this **** is getting rid of the fair weather fans! Lmao! **** this!!! This is just more BS! I'm not buying it.

jokeray · 04-23-2012, 03:51 PM

ESPN reporting this is irresponsible. I hope the Saints prove this wasn't true so this kind of reporting is frowned upon, I'm getting sick of the media.

TheEnigma · 04-23-2012, 03:54 PM

If this doesn't prove that the NFL has something against us, then I don't know what will.

tiger_bait · 04-23-2012, 03:56 PM

saints are becoming one of these teams in the NFL that no one is neutral about...you love them or you hate them

04-23-2012, 03:38 PM	#21
Threaded by W. Kovacs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 514 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by FinSaint Yep, there's the evidence. I mean there couldn't have been any other reason for the 3-13 record that season - clearly they were lost without the electronic eavesdropping. I'm hoping this turns out to be BS, but in any regards the Pats weren't punished that hard for their Spygate - at least in relation to the Bountygate punishments - and this type of a violation would fall into the same category of competitive edge violations, so because of that precedent the potential punishments would have to be fairly similar. Except 1) we'll probably get slapped with the "repeat offenders" tag so Rog'll come down even harder on us. 2) We already don't have a first rounder this year, or a second rounder for the next two years. If we lose a first rounder next year (same punishment as the Pats) we're looking at 2 years in a row with no picks until the third round. Add into that the fact that this could be the end for Loomis (if proven true...have I mentioned that I REALLY hope it's not?) and this could be really, really bad for us.
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04-23-2012, 03:39 PM	#22
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04-23-2012, 03:46 PM	#23
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	This is so ridiculous. Even if it were true, which I doubt it is, it's so obvious that everyone is hell bent on digging up anything thing they can find on Loomis and Payton, even if it means going back before their time here. Because what did everyone say about spygate? "Oh this is what everyone does, but Bill just got caught". That's what we've been screaming about Bountygate, but who is listening? No one in the media, for sure. So now they want to accuse Loomis of eavesdropping, and I'm sure the seagulls (media) will try to say that no one else would do that. But again, this is nothing more than fishing for garbage.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

04-23-2012, 03:47 PM	#24
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by W. Kovacs Except 1) we'll probably get slapped with the "repeat offenders" tag so Rog'll come down even harder on us. Naturally, but that wouldn't really be fair because this violation had happened earlier than the recent violations, so technically if these accusations turn out to be true - the Bountygate punishments should've been harder with the Saints being "repeat offenders" of sorts, not the other way around. I think there's a technical (correctional) term for it, but I can't remember what it is at the moment.

04-23-2012, 03:48 PM	#25
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by FinSaint Naturally, but that wouldn't really be fair because this violation had happened earlier than the recent violations, so technically if these accusations turn out to be true - the Bountygate punishments should've been harder with the Saints being "repeat offenders" of sorts, not the other way around. I think there's a technical (correctional) term for it, but I can't remember what it is at the moment. You're absolutely right, and yet I find myself wondering if that logic will matter in Goodell's court of "flaw".

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