Saints’ first pick in third round

04-27-2012, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

With their 1st pick in the 3rd round, the New Orleans Saints select...

Josh Chapman, Defensive Tackle from the NCAA National Champions Alabama!!!

Nawww, I'm not a homer at all.

What's the comparison between Richardson and Ingram? Why was TR desired so high in the draft and Ingram still there at 28 last year?
Is TR that much better than Heisman winner Ingram? Did the Browns reach? Were the Saints fortunate that Ingram was there?
Do we need a new thread for these questions?

Danno · 04-27-2012, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

What's the comparison between Richardson and Ingram? Why was TR desired so high in the draft and Ingram still there at 28 last year?
Is TR that much better than Heisman winner Ingram? Did the Browns reach? Were the Saints fortunate that Ingram was there?
Do we need a new thread for these questions?

TR and Ingram look very similar to me. Both ran a low 40 of 4.47 so the speed is about equal. Ingram looks to have more short area burst while TR has the top end speed, but both are close. Just based on watching every game they ever played in, I'd give Richardson an A, and Ingram an A-minus. Richardson looks to have a bit better vision, but thats close as well.

Why one went 3rd and the other 28th I can't explain. Ingram was mocked by most experts at around pick 15 so he certainly slipped.

Upshaw slipping really surprised me. I know he's a bit of a tweener but I still expected mid-first.

papz · 04-27-2012, 10:09 AM

TR >>>>> Ingram

Big home run hitting complete 3 down franchise back. Barring injury, TR will be a monster in this league for a long time. Even when Ingram won the Heisman, I felt Richardson was the best and most talented back on the team.

Not a knock on Ingram... that's just how much I think of Richardson.

Euphoria · 04-27-2012, 10:14 AM

You also have to take into account what team needs are as well. Brown felt he was the guy. Ingram slipped perhaps those teams didn't feel he was the guy. Heck we passed on him even.

Danno · 04-27-2012, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by papz

TR >>>>> Ingram

Big home run hitting complete 3 down franchise back. Barring injury, TR will be a monster in this league for a long time. Even when Ingram won the Heisman, I felt Richardson was the best and most talented back on the team.

Not a knock on Ingram... that's just how much I think of Richardson.

I'd say TR > Ingram ( I wouldn't go 5 >'s though, maybe 2 >'s)

I'm expecting him to perform similarly to Steven Jackson and maybe just a hair below Adrian Peterson.

iceshack149 · 04-27-2012, 10:42 AM

I know that Ingram has great balance. That Sports Science piece on him was really impressive.

Alright, threadjack discontinued.

I'm hoping for a "planet" DT.

04-27-2012, 09:52 AM	#11
Threaded by iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Danno With their 1st pick in the 3rd round, the New Orleans Saints select... Josh Chapman, Defensive Tackle from the NCAA National Champions Alabama!!! Nawww, I'm not a homer at all. What's the comparison between Richardson and Ingram? Why was TR desired so high in the draft and Ingram still there at 28 last year? Is TR that much better than Heisman winner Ingram? Did the Browns reach? Were the Saints fortunate that Ingram was there? Do we need a new thread for these questions?
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04-27-2012, 10:02 AM	#12
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by iceshack149 What's the comparison between Richardson and Ingram? Why was TR desired so high in the draft and Ingram still there at 28 last year? Is TR that much better than Heisman winner Ingram? Did the Browns reach? Were the Saints fortunate that Ingram was there? Do we need a new thread for these questions? TR and Ingram look very similar to me. Both ran a low 40 of 4.47 so the speed is about equal. Ingram looks to have more short area burst while TR has the top end speed, but both are close. Just based on watching every game they ever played in, I'd give Richardson an A, and Ingram an A-minus. Richardson looks to have a bit better vision, but thats close as well. Why one went 3rd and the other 28th I can't explain. Ingram was mocked by most experts at around pick 15 so he certainly slipped. Upshaw slipping really surprised me. I know he's a bit of a tweener but I still expected mid-first.

04-27-2012, 10:15 AM	#15
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by papz TR >>>>> Ingram Big home run hitting complete 3 down franchise back. Barring injury, TR will be a monster in this league for a long time. Even when Ingram won the Heisman, I felt Richardson was the best and most talented back on the team. Not a knock on Ingram... that's just how much I think of Richardson. I'd say TR > Ingram ( I wouldn't go 5 >'s though, maybe 2 >'s) I'm expecting him to perform similarly to Steven Jackson and maybe just a hair below Adrian Peterson.

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04-27-2012, 10:09 AM	#13
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,754	TR >>>>> Ingram Big home run hitting complete 3 down franchise back. Barring injury, TR will be a monster in this league for a long time. Even when Ingram won the Heisman, I felt Richardson was the best and most talented back on the team. Not a knock on Ingram... that's just how much I think of Richardson.

04-27-2012, 10:14 AM	#14
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	You also have to take into account what team needs are as well. Brown felt he was the guy. Ingram slipped perhaps those teams didn't feel he was the guy. Heck we passed on him even.

04-27-2012, 10:42 AM	#16
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,299 Blog Entries: 1	I know that Ingram has great balance. That Sports Science piece on him was really impressive. Alright, threadjack discontinued. I'm hoping for a "planet" DT.