Saints Pick Akeim Hicks DT - Regina Canada

04-28-2012, 10:17 AM

Don't forget the rhinoceros head sitting on the table here. We may need him sooner than we think once godell finally ends his long term back door Saints screwing.

|Mitch| · 04-28-2012, 10:23 AM

Les Miles says he is a great pick for the Saints and will come in and produce right away.

They were comparing him to Michael Brockers and say he would have went in the first round if he could have stayed at LSU...

Rugby Saint II · 04-28-2012, 12:36 PM

That's one good addition on the Dline. Now give me another DT or CB!

UK_WhoDat · 04-28-2012, 04:00 PM

BIG!

burningmetal · 04-28-2012, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

I agree for the most part with everything you said EXCEPT the last paragraph. I think you are dead wrong.

How do you figure he doesn't have the greatest attitude? Considering what happened at LSU, I think he is VERY humble.

He is EXACTLY a blue collar player. He had high hopes of playing for one of the best college football programs in the country and through no fault of his own, was taken away from him. He had to go to Canada for crying out loud!! To even be invited to the combine speaks VOLUMES on this guys heart and work ethic.

How do you figure he doesn't work hard 100% of the time? Do you have inside info on this guy none of us have seen?

It's one thing to not like a player/pick but don't start making things up that, from what we have seen on this guy, he has all the physical tools to be successfull NFL, just needs some technique work.

I don't make things up, and I really get tired of being accused of such. What I have read about him is that he doesn't play through the whistle consistently, he has bad technique, which wouldn't be a problem if he worked harder, and that he has some character issues.

I believe people can change, and am hoping he will. But that is the book on him right now, not according to me, but according to people who evaluate players for a living. I am not a negative guy, so I wouldn't just randomly make up something bad about a player on my team.

Do not ever accuse me of making things up about my team.

CharityMike · 04-28-2012, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I don't make things up, and I really get tired of being accused of such. What I have read about him is that he doesn't play through the whistle consistently, he has bad technique, which wouldn't be a problem if he worked harder, and that he has some character issues.

I believe people can change, and am hoping he will. But that is the book on him right now, not according to me, but according to people who evaluate players for a living. I am not a negative guy, so I wouldn't just randomly make up something bad about a player on my team.

Do not ever accuse me of making things up about my team.

Well please by all means, post the links to these things you say because everything I have read had said the opposite.

burningmetal · 04-28-2012, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

hmm... Saints offense the last 6 years: 1, 4, 1, 1, 6 (with Drew playing on a bad knee), and un-freaking-believable.

On the other hand, the Saints defense the last 6 years, other than 2009 with all the turnovers which kept giving the ball back to the best O in football, nnnnnot so hot, especially after 2 consecutive playoff meltdowns, lest we forget Lynch ginsu'ing the D in 2010, and not being able to stop Joe Montana in 4 consecutive drives last year. Oh, wait, that was Alex Smith.. my bad.

If Spagnuolo wants this young man, let him have it.

I think we can all agree that the Saints wanted him or they wouldn't have taken him. I am only giving my opinion on a pick that I did not personally care for. I think he has potential but I don't agree with the Saints grade on him.

I understand that we have a great offense, and I mentioned that in a reply to someone else on here. But we have already upgraded quite a bit through free agency on the defensive side of the ball, so I don't see a glaring need there. I do agree, of course, that we need more help on defense still, than we do on offense. But we have weak offensive tackles who almost got drew killed against the Rams, and forced the Saints to come up with a new blocking scheme to help those guys out. If anything happens to Drew, you can forget about the offense, so don't you want to keep him upright? I'm not saying we had to select Massie, but I thought he was more of a sure thing than Hicks. We upgraded at DT with Bunkley, and we could use some depth there, but what sort of depth do we have at OT?

If we had a pick in the first two rounds then absolutely we could have gotten a more proven impact defensive player, and that would have been great. But now we just have to hope that Hicks works out. Remember Jonathan Sullivan? Al Woods, Demario Pressley, Sedrick Ellis? The Saints have done a poor job drafting DT's and Ellis is the only guy who wasn't a complete flop. Then they sign Franklin and Rogers last year and that bombed.

So pardon me if I don't just bow to the Saints and automatically trust them when they Draft a guy like this. I love the Saints, and think they are brilliant with most things, but this is an area where I will be skeptical until given a reason not to be.

CharityMike · 04-28-2012, 05:52 PM

I'll give you one thing Metal, I would have liked the Massie pick in the 3rd then the Hicks pick. I highly doubt he was on ANYBODIES radar in the 3rd round.

Then again, like mentioned by Papz, what do we as fans know? I kinda like the pick if for no other reason, there was no hype with him. Guy's we have gotten with hype have been crap. So maybe a little reverse psychology is play here

burningmetal · 04-28-2012, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

I'll give you one thing Metal, I would have liked the Massie pick in the 3rd then the Hicks pick. I highly doubt he was on ANYBODIES radar in the 3rd round.

Then again, like mentioned by Papz, what do we as fans know? I kinda like the pick if for no other reason, there was no hype with him. Guy's we have gotten with hype have been crap. So maybe a little reverse psychology is play here

We'll see Mike. I hope he becomes the greatest lineman we've ever had.

Here are a couple links as to what I was talking about with Hicks. and again, I am pulling for this guy, but I'm going on what I know about him so far:

Akiem Hicks, Regina, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

DT Akiem Hicks Scouting Report | Buffalo Bills Draft

It seems that some scouts have different views as to where the character concerns come from, but they agree that he seems to get frustrated and not play hard through the whistle if he isn't successful just mauling the guy in front of him. And that's a potential problem considering he was going up against nobody. If he keeps his motor running, he'll be alright.

Euphoria · 04-28-2012, 06:38 PM

This guy wasn't drafted to be a pro bowler tomorrow.

This kids is a developmental project.

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04-28-2012, 05:25 PM	#55
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by CharityMike I agree for the most part with everything you said EXCEPT the last paragraph. I think you are dead wrong. How do you figure he doesn't have the greatest attitude? Considering what happened at LSU, I think he is VERY humble. He is EXACTLY a blue collar player. He had high hopes of playing for one of the best college football programs in the country and through no fault of his own, was taken away from him. He had to go to Canada for crying out loud!! To even be invited to the combine speaks VOLUMES on this guys heart and work ethic. How do you figure he doesn't work hard 100% of the time? Do you have inside info on this guy none of us have seen? It's one thing to not like a player/pick but don't start making things up that, from what we have seen on this guy, he has all the physical tools to be successfull NFL, just needs some technique work. I don't make things up, and I really get tired of being accused of such. What I have read about him is that he doesn't play through the whistle consistently, he has bad technique, which wouldn't be a problem if he worked harder, and that he has some character issues. I believe people can change, and am hoping he will. But that is the book on him right now, not according to me, but according to people who evaluate players for a living. I am not a negative guy, so I wouldn't just randomly make up something bad about a player on my team. Do not ever accuse me of making things up about my team.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

04-28-2012, 05:35 PM	#56
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Originally Posted by burningmetal I don't make things up, and I really get tired of being accused of such. What I have read about him is that he doesn't play through the whistle consistently, he has bad technique, which wouldn't be a problem if he worked harder, and that he has some character issues. I believe people can change, and am hoping he will. But that is the book on him right now, not according to me, but according to people who evaluate players for a living. I am not a negative guy, so I wouldn't just randomly make up something bad about a player on my team. Do not ever accuse me of making things up about my team. Well please by all means, post the links to these things you say because everything I have read had said the opposite.

04-28-2012, 05:40 PM	#57
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper hmm... Saints offense the last 6 years: 1, 4, 1, 1, 6 (with Drew playing on a bad knee), and un-freaking-believable. On the other hand, the Saints defense the last 6 years, other than 2009 with all the turnovers which kept giving the ball back to the best O in football, nnnnnot so hot, especially after 2 consecutive playoff meltdowns, lest we forget Lynch ginsu'ing the D in 2010, and not being able to stop Joe Montana in 4 consecutive drives last year. Oh, wait, that was Alex Smith.. my bad. If Spagnuolo wants this young man, let him have it. I think we can all agree that the Saints wanted him or they wouldn't have taken him. I am only giving my opinion on a pick that I did not personally care for. I think he has potential but I don't agree with the Saints grade on him. I understand that we have a great offense, and I mentioned that in a reply to someone else on here. But we have already upgraded quite a bit through free agency on the defensive side of the ball, so I don't see a glaring need there. I do agree, of course, that we need more help on defense still, than we do on offense. But we have weak offensive tackles who almost got drew killed against the Rams, and forced the Saints to come up with a new blocking scheme to help those guys out. If anything happens to Drew, you can forget about the offense, so don't you want to keep him upright? I'm not saying we had to select Massie, but I thought he was more of a sure thing than Hicks. We upgraded at DT with Bunkley, and we could use some depth there, but what sort of depth do we have at OT? If we had a pick in the first two rounds then absolutely we could have gotten a more proven impact defensive player, and that would have been great. But now we just have to hope that Hicks works out. Remember Jonathan Sullivan? Al Woods, Demario Pressley, Sedrick Ellis? The Saints have done a poor job drafting DT's and Ellis is the only guy who wasn't a complete flop. Then they sign Franklin and Rogers last year and that bombed. So pardon me if I don't just bow to the Saints and automatically trust them when they Draft a guy like this. I love the Saints, and think they are brilliant with most things, but this is an area where I will be skeptical until given a reason not to be.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

04-28-2012, 06:27 PM	#59
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by CharityMike I'll give you one thing Metal, I would have liked the Massie pick in the 3rd then the Hicks pick. I highly doubt he was on ANYBODIES radar in the 3rd round. Then again, like mentioned by Papz, what do we as fans know? I kinda like the pick if for no other reason, there was no hype with him. Guy's we have gotten with hype have been crap. So maybe a little reverse psychology is play here We'll see Mike. I hope he becomes the greatest lineman we've ever had. Here are a couple links as to what I was talking about with Hicks. and again, I am pulling for this guy, but I'm going on what I know about him so far: Akiem Hicks, Regina, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com DT Akiem Hicks Scouting Report \| Buffalo Bills Draft It seems that some scouts have different views as to where the character concerns come from, but they agree that he seems to get frustrated and not play hard through the whistle if he isn't successful just mauling the guy in front of him. And that's a potential problem considering he was going up against nobody. If he keeps his motor running, he'll be alright.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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04-28-2012, 10:23 AM	#52
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04-28-2012, 04:00 PM	#54
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04-28-2012, 05:52 PM	#58
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	I'll give you one thing Metal, I would have liked the Massie pick in the 3rd then the Hicks pick. I highly doubt he was on ANYBODIES radar in the 3rd round. Then again, like mentioned by Papz, what do we as fans know? I kinda like the pick if for no other reason, there was no hype with him. Guy's we have gotten with hype have been crap. So maybe a little reverse psychology is play here

04-28-2012, 06:38 PM	#60
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	This guy wasn't drafted to be a pro bowler tomorrow. This kids is a developmental project.

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