New Orleans Saints players deserve to know their fate now

papz · 05-01-2012, 08:09 AM

The wait only could be more tortuous for the New Orleans Saints and their fans if they were forced to watch a continuous loop of the Mike Ditka era while biding their time. Or if they were sentenced to having to watch and breakdown each individual snap taken by quarterbacks Heath Shuler, Kerry Collins and Billy Joe Hobert during their careers in New Orleans.

Which leaves only one piece of advice to offer: Get on with it commissioner.

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st thomas · 05-01-2012, 10:32 AM

whats the chances of them not doing anything to the players? maybe his over the top suspensions on payton enough already.

Halo · 05-01-2012, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

whats the chances of them not doing anything to the players? maybe his over the top suspensions on payton enough already.

Best case scenario is for Goodell to suspend the "key" players like Vilma and a few others.

To suspend 20 players on defense will be devastating to the team.

Halo · 05-01-2012, 10:33 AM

I totally agree. This should have been handled weeks before the draft. Can't tell if the NFLPA helped or made it worse by delaying.

TheOak · 05-01-2012, 10:58 AM

Well if the "news" would stop putting it in the head lines I would say the chances are better it goes away than having it on the front page every day reminding Goodell he misplaced a yellow sticky.

|Mitch| · 05-01-2012, 11:02 AM

so has the NFLPA stepped aside without evidence or did Roger finally show something?

AsylumGuido · 05-01-2012, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

so has the NFLPA stepped aside without evidence or did Roger finally show something?

The last word from the NFLPA was that they were never shown any meaningful evidence that confirmed that any Saints player was involved in a bounty program and that they could not recommend any punishment.

saintfan · 05-01-2012, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The last word from the NFLPA was that they were never shown any meaningful evidence that confirmed that any Saints player was involved in a bounty program and that they could not recommend any punishment.

That's Gene saying to Roger, "Go ahead and broadcast to the world the heavy-handed punishment you're planning...and we'll appeal and do whatever else we can legally to stop you unless and until you can show me some real evidence."

Which of course we know Roger has no real evidence, so he probably had to re-think his plan which is the cause for the delay. We shall see. I, for one, hope it gets really nasty.

blackangold · 05-01-2012, 11:18 AM

The players may not see their suspensions this year. They may know the time they must serve soon but much like the star-caps situation this could find itself in court because the NFLPA has balls. In my opinion Sean and Mickey should be doing the same thing.

Beastmode · 05-01-2012, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

The players may not see their suspensions this year. They may know the time they must serve soon but much like the star-caps situation this could find itself in court because the NFLPA has balls. In my opinion Sean and Mickey should be doing the same thing.

The star caps incident, The NFL violated state laws, that was the main issue that held it up in the courts. If the NFL hands out suspensions the players would need that kind of power to trump the NFL otherwise, they don't have a leg to stand on. What state or federal violations would the NFL be guilty of in this case...I don't know, I'm no lawyer but I'm sure the lawyers of the players will do their best to find one.

05-01-2012, 08:09 AM	#1
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,794	New Orleans Saints players deserve to know their fate now The wait only could be more tortuous for the New Orleans Saints and their fans if they were forced to watch a continuous loop of the Mike Ditka era while biding their time. Or if they were sentenced to having to watch and breakdown each individual snap taken by quarterbacks Heath Shuler, Kerry Collins and Billy Joe Hobert during their careers in New Orleans. Which leaves only one piece of advice to offer: Get on with it commissioner. Full article. New Orleans Saints players deserve to know their fate now - New Orleans Saints Football NFL News - NOLA.com Attached Thumbnails

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Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,902 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by st thomas whats the chances of them not doing anything to the players? maybe his over the top suspensions on payton enough already. Best case scenario is for Goodell to suspend the "key" players like Vilma and a few others. To suspend 20 players on defense will be devastating to the team.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,708	Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| so has the NFLPA stepped aside without evidence or did Roger finally show something? The last word from the NFLPA was that they were never shown any meaningful evidence that confirmed that any Saints player was involved in a bounty program and that they could not recommend any punishment.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The last word from the NFLPA was that they were never shown any meaningful evidence that confirmed that any Saints player was involved in a bounty program and that they could not recommend any punishment. That's Gene saying to Roger, "Go ahead and broadcast to the world the heavy-handed punishment you're planning...and we'll appeal and do whatever else we can legally to stop you unless and until you can show me some real evidence." Which of course we know Roger has no real evidence, so he probably had to re-think his plan which is the cause for the delay. We shall see. I, for one, hope it gets really nasty. saintsfan1976 and bobdog86 like this.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Originally Posted by blackangold The players may not see their suspensions this year. They may know the time they must serve soon but much like the star-caps situation this could find itself in court because the NFLPA has balls. In my opinion Sean and Mickey should be doing the same thing. The star caps incident, The NFL violated state laws, that was the main issue that held it up in the courts. If the NFL hands out suspensions the players would need that kind of power to trump the NFL otherwise, they don't have a leg to stand on. What state or federal violations would the NFL be guilty of in this case...I don't know, I'm no lawyer but I'm sure the lawyers of the players will do their best to find one.
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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	whats the chances of them not doing anything to the players? maybe his over the top suspensions on payton enough already.

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Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,902 Blog Entries: 45	I totally agree. This should have been handled weeks before the draft. Can't tell if the NFLPA helped or made it worse by delaying.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Well if the "news" would stop putting it in the head lines I would say the chances are better it goes away than having it on the front page every day reminding Goodell he misplaced a yellow sticky.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	so has the NFLPA stepped aside without evidence or did Roger finally show something?

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blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	The players may not see their suspensions this year. They may know the time they must serve soon but much like the star-caps situation this could find itself in court because the NFLPA has balls. In my opinion Sean and Mickey should be doing the same thing.

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