DE -- Will Smith

ami2kind4words · 04-24-2004, 03:47 PM

someone gotta be cut with this pick. Charles Grant Darren Howard Melvin williams Willie whitehead..This is just one of the stupidest move in the loomis era. If the saints can\'t sign Howard to a long term contract they could\'ve search for a defensive end next year, plus Will Smith was not the best DE on the board (Kenechi Udeze)

buzwa · 04-24-2004, 03:49 PM

Has enough quickness (along with past experience) to possibly move to inside linebacker in a 3-4 defensive scheme ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦ Despite lacking ideal bulk, he is very stout vs. the run, generating a strong surge to gain leverage and drive the lead blocker back into the rush lane ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦ When asked to play linebacker, he shows the ability to drop and shadow the tight ends and running backs in the short area passing lanes ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦ Has that rare explosive first step to run hard after the ball, showing exceptional sideline range.

Anyone hear of Terrell Suggs?

JKool · 04-24-2004, 04:06 PM

Buzwa,

I want more than anything for that to be true, but it is difficult to learn a new position (or to be as intuitive when you haven\'t had much experience). This is a pick that cannot benefit us this year (unless it helps in producting a reasonable contract with Howard). The Saints need help right now on the defensive side of the ball.

While I agree that this pick was not a stretch, we should have made a trade. BAP is NOT the best strategy in every case! I\'m sick of hearing that. Trades for players are difficult to arrange, so a pick that in the first round at a position WHERE THERE IS ABSOLUTLY NO NEED will be of very little value in improving a team.

This was a sensible pick at our spot, but we should simply have moved from that spot to avoid creating the problem we just did (no impact 1st rounder).

Chuck · 04-24-2004, 04:06 PM

We have no trouble growing them big boys here. I hope in two years we don\'t read how he is to fat!

thats good stuff

subguy · 04-24-2004, 05:00 PM

With Wilfork available I think we should have taken the best on the board to fill a need.

lsusurfer · 04-24-2004, 05:06 PM

Will Smith is a great pick. Top ten talent at 18! Plus the guys we all wanted were gone by then. Vilma, DJ, even my boy Clayton. Plus the factor that Will could play ILB. I hear this guy has great character and a nonstop motor. 1 Round should always be the best available player. Would you guys feel better if we got Gamble, not me.

no_cloning · 04-24-2004, 05:25 PM

Ah, he will be soooooooooo good.
http://images.ea.com/sports/events/m...ns/smith18.jpg

[Edited on 24/4/2004 by no_cloning]

turbo_dog · 04-24-2004, 06:15 PM

Isn\'t that Howard\'s number?

pakowitz · 04-24-2004, 06:49 PM

i think we got great value out of our pick, smith was a top 10 guy a guy with a great motor and good character is exceptionally quick off the ball, and is exceptional against the run!!! also it gives us great depth on the D line with howard always being injured and grant playing inconsistant at times. while i love whitehead, he doesnt have half the talent that smith has, and i think the move just makes us much stronger on the Dline, in my opinion, its a great pick. you can never have enough depth on the offensive and defensive lines..

while i would have loved to have wilfork, i am not at all disappointed with this pick....

p.s. udeze is injured with shoulder problems and is a reason that he dropped so far

p.s.s. yes that is howards #

[Edited on 4/24/2004 by pakowitz]

Euphoria · 04-24-2004, 08:35 PM

Yes, I agree we got great value with the pick. I like the idea of trying him at LB, he\'s got size and all the attributes. I like having Howard staying... I don\'t see him going anywheres.

04-24-2004, 03:47 PM	#11
ami2kind4words 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 149	DE -- Will Smith someone gotta be cut with this pick. Charles Grant Darren Howard Melvin williams Willie whitehead..This is just one of the stupidest move in the loomis era. If the saints can\'t sign Howard to a long term contract they could\'ve search for a defensive end next year, plus Will Smith was not the best DE on the board (Kenechi Udeze)
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04-24-2004, 03:49 PM	#12
buzwa Registered Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 94	DE -- Will Smith Has enough quickness (along with past experience) to possibly move to inside linebacker in a 3-4 defensive scheme ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦ Despite lacking ideal bulk, he is very stout vs. the run, generating a strong surge to gain leverage and drive the lead blocker back into the rush lane ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦ When asked to play linebacker, he shows the ability to drop and shadow the tight ends and running backs in the short area passing lanes ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦ Has that rare explosive first step to run hard after the ball, showing exceptional sideline range. Anyone hear of Terrell Suggs?
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04-24-2004, 04:06 PM	#13
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	DE -- Will Smith Buzwa, I want more than anything for that to be true, but it is difficult to learn a new position (or to be as intuitive when you haven\'t had much experience). This is a pick that cannot benefit us this year (unless it helps in producting a reasonable contract with Howard). The Saints need help right now on the defensive side of the ball. While I agree that this pick was not a stretch, we should have made a trade. BAP is NOT the best strategy in every case! I\'m sick of hearing that. Trades for players are difficult to arrange, so a pick that in the first round at a position WHERE THERE IS ABSOLUTLY NO NEED will be of very little value in improving a team. This was a sensible pick at our spot, but we should simply have moved from that spot to avoid creating the problem we just did (no impact 1st rounder).
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04-24-2004, 04:06 PM	#14
Chuck 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 140	DE -- Will Smith We have no trouble growing them big boys here. I hope in two years we don\'t read how he is to fat! thats good stuff
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04-24-2004, 05:00 PM	#15
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,095	DE -- Will Smith With Wilfork available I think we should have taken the best on the board to fill a need.

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04-24-2004, 05:06 PM	#16
lsusurfer Registered Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 74	DE -- Will Smith Will Smith is a great pick. Top ten talent at 18! Plus the guys we all wanted were gone by then. Vilma, DJ, even my boy Clayton. Plus the factor that Will could play ILB. I hear this guy has great character and a nonstop motor. 1 Round should always be the best available player. Would you guys feel better if we got Gamble, not me.
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04-24-2004, 05:25 PM	#17
no_cloning 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 249	DE -- Will Smith Ah, he will be soooooooooo good. http://images.ea.com/sports/events/m...ns/smith18.jpg [Edited on 24/4/2004 by no_cloning]
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04-24-2004, 06:15 PM	#18
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,592	DE -- Will Smith Isn\'t that Howard\'s number?

04-24-2004, 06:49 PM	#19
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	DE -- Will Smith i think we got great value out of our pick, smith was a top 10 guy a guy with a great motor and good character is exceptionally quick off the ball, and is exceptional against the run!!! also it gives us great depth on the D line with howard always being injured and grant playing inconsistant at times. while i love whitehead, he doesnt have half the talent that smith has, and i think the move just makes us much stronger on the Dline, in my opinion, its a great pick. you can never have enough depth on the offensive and defensive lines.. while i would have loved to have wilfork, i am not at all disappointed with this pick.... p.s. udeze is injured with shoulder problems and is a reason that he dropped so far p.s.s. yes that is howards # [Edited on 4/24/2004 by pakowitz]
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04-24-2004, 08:35 PM	#20
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	DE -- Will Smith Yes, I agree we got great value with the pick. I like the idea of trying him at LB, he\'s got size and all the attributes. I like having Howard staying... I don\'t see him going anywheres.