Brees’ franchise tender comes in at $16.371 million

SaintFanInATLHELL · 05-06-2012, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

... this is what I don't understand about the whole deal, Brees has been offered a couple pretty good contracts, sign one already! ... I'm all for a guy getting what he's worth and negotiating the best deal, but at $64.3mil for three years, does it matter if you get a long term contract? I mean, take the money, play three seasons & retire to the broadcast booth for crissake ... just sign already!

I guess I'm going to get the a-hole tag today because I'm going to play Tom Condon:

Peyton Manning has not played in more than a year. He has a documented injury that could by all accounts end his career. He just signed a 5 year $96 million that pays essentially a flat $20 a year. And BTW he's 36.

My guy is 3 years younger. My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD! I repeat EVER HAD! The last 5 years has been the best 5 year stretch in the history of the NFL for a QB. Your franchise won its first SB ever with my guy at the helm.

So exactly why should my guy take a back seat to a QB who is older and injured? Why should we settle for a shorter contract? My guy wants to retire here in New Orleans. He wants the well deserved security and respect that should be afforded to what is by all accounts a HOF QB at the prime of his career.

Let's find a way to get this done so we can get back to the business of winning championships. 5 years, $115 million, with $75 million frontloaded in the first three years frankly isn't too much to ask. My guy is the best QB in the NFL and can likely be the best QB in the history of the NFL if we can get this done.

End presentation.

SFIAH

Danno · 05-06-2012, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I guess I'm going to get the a-hole tag today because I'm going to play Tom Condon:

Peyton Manning has not played in more than a year. He has a documented injury that could by all accounts end his career. He just signed a 5 year $96 million that pays essentially a flat $20 a year. And BTW he's 36.

My guy is 3 years younger. My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD! I repeat EVER HAD! The last 5 years has been the best 5 year stretch in the history of the NFL for a QB. Your franchise won its first SB ever with my guy at the helm.

So exactly why should my guy take a back seat to a QB who is older and injured? Why should we settle for a shorter contract? My guy wants to retire here in New Orleans. He wants the well deserved security and respect that should be afforded to what is by all accounts a HOF QB at the prime of his career.

Let's find a way to get this done so we can get back to the business of winning championships. 5 years, $115 million, with $75 million frontloaded in the first three years frankly isn't too much to ask. My guy is the best QB in the NFL and can likely be the best QB in the history of the NFL if we can get this done.

End presentation.

SFIAH

The only problem is that you don't know what was offered and what was requested.

Brees may have been low-balled, then again he may have been offered more than any player in NFL history.

My guess is that we wanted it structured so that he gets a huge jump in 2014 when the salary cap rises substantially. That keeps us cap friendly for 2012 and 2013.
Tom probably said NFW, we want it now.

jeanpierre · 05-07-2012, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

The only problem is that you don't know what was offered and what was requested.

Brees may have been low-balled, then again he may have been offered more than any player in NFL history.

My guess is that we wanted it structured so that he gets a huge jump in 2014 when the salary cap rises substantially. That keeps us cap friendly for 2012 and 2013.
Tom probably said NFW, we want it now.

It always comes back to Tom Condon, doesn't it?!?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 05-11-2012, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

It always comes back to Tom Condon, doesn't it?!?

Of course it always comes back to the agent. The agent's job is to get their client the best deal to be had. From his perspective, Condon is smelling like roses. By waiting he got one client, Carl Nicks, the richest deal for a guard ever. By waiting, Manning got signed to a deal that's virtually $20 million, setting a QB bar for an older injured QB as opposed to his client. By waiting, everyone got to see the guaranteed $53 million that Calvin Johnson signed for. From a pure business standpoint, by waiting, Condon has honestly made that $23 million/year not look ridiculous.

So of course it always comes back to agent. If there were no agent in the picture, Drew probably would have signed last year, or during the year.

Getting the best deal for his client is his job. And looking at his track record, he's very very good at it.

I still predict the final numbers will come in between $21 and $22 million/year with $60+ million guaranteed, virtually guaranteeing that Drew retires a Saint. But it's going to take some work and some time to get there.

SFIAH

SloMotion · 05-07-2012, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I guess I'm going to get the a-hole tag today because I'm going to play Tom Condon:

Peyton Manning has not played in more than a year. He has a documented injury that could by all accounts end his career. He just signed a 5 year $96 million that pays essentially a flat $20 a year. And BTW he's 36.

My guy is 3 years younger. My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD! I repeat EVER HAD! The last 5 years has been the best 5 year stretch in the history of the NFL for a QB. Your franchise won its first SB ever with my guy at the helm.

So exactly why should my guy take a back seat to a QB who is older and injured? Why should we settle for a shorter contract? My guy wants to retire here in New Orleans. He wants the well deserved security and respect that should be afforded to what is by all accounts a HOF QB at the prime of his career.

Let's find a way to get this done so we can get back to the business of winning championships. 5 years, $115 million, with $75 million frontloaded in the first three years frankly isn't too much to ask. My guy is the best QB in the NFL and can likely be the best QB in the history of the NFL if we can get this done.

End presentation.

SFIAH

That's fair, I understand and have no problem with Brees getting paid what he's worth or based on his performance, but as I've browsed the board the past 3-4 months, I've seen he's been offered a couple pretty impressive contracts that would have made him the highest paid player in the NFL at the time? And now there's the whole franchise-tag-thing to contend with ... I just can't figure out what he's waiting on, unless they're waiting to see how much salary cap will be freed up due to player suspensions/penalties so they can offer Drew more. ?

Maybe I'm naive and can't relate to the problems of the-rich-and-famous-athlete types, but how much more then $18mil-or-so a year do you need before you have the well-deserved security & respect you feel should be afforded you? It's been beat to death, I know, I'm just transitioning over to the, "like Drew as a player and want to see him sign with NO, but this has been dragging out too long and not so much supporting his contract fight anymore" side.

While I can't see Brees playing for anyone other then New Orleans, I'm starting to think the only thing that will keep Drew from retiring a Saint is Drew, or Tom Condon, whoever is running that show, and a viable option for Brees (at 33) is to sign a three year contract, retire a Saint at age 36 and field offers from the networks, all of which would be glad to have him on their broadcast teams ... now that's a plan for security & respect, IMO.

TheOak · 05-07-2012, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

That's fair, I understand and have no problem with Brees getting paid what he's worth or based on his performance, but as I've browsed the board the past 3-4 months, I've seen he's been offered a couple pretty impressive contracts that would have made him the highest paid player in the NFL at the time? And now there's the whole franchise-tag-thing to contend with ... I just can't figure out what he's waiting on, unless they're waiting to see how much salary cap will be freed up due to player suspensions/penalties so they can offer Drew more. ?

Maybe I'm naive and can't relate to the problems of the-rich-and-famous-athlete types, but how much more then $18mil-or-so a year do you need before you have the well-deserved security & respect you feel should be afforded you? It's been beat to death, I know, I'm just transitioning over to the, "like Drew as a player and want to see him sign with NO, but this has been dragging out too long and not so much supporting his contract fight anymore" side.

While I can't see Brees playing for anyone other then New Orleans, I'm starting to think the only thing that will keep Drew from retiring a Saint is Drew, or Tom Condon, whoever is running that show, and a viable option for Brees (at 33) is to sign a three year contract, retire a Saint at age 36 and field offers from the networks, all of which would be glad to have him on their broadcast teams ... now that's a plan for security & respect, IMO.

Slo...

Its not a question of "need", obviously Drews "ends are meeting". Besides the great post by SFIAH, I am sure there is some "lime light" that the Saints/Drew/Condon want in the form of Highest paid player. Drews contract does not just effect Drew, Condon, Saints. It will effect each and every other QB that gets hits with a franchise tag also....

There is a business game behind the football game. The higher Drews contract is, the farther north the franchise tag goes... would be a good chess move to make another QB for another team unaffordable because the FT went up .

I am not entirely sure the debate at this point is value, I think it is loading...

SloMotion · 05-07-2012, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Slo...

Its not a question of "need", obviously Drews "ends are meeting". Besides the great post by SFIAH, I am sure there is some "lime light" that the Saints/Drew/Condon want in the form of Highest paid player. Drews contract does not just effect Drew, Condon, Saints. It will effect each and every other QB that gets hits with a franchise tag also....

There is a business game behind the football game. The higher Drews contract is, the farther north the franchise tag goes... would be a good chess move to make another QB for another team unaffordable because the FT went up .

I am not entirely sure the debate at this point is value, I think it is loading...

Yeah, "it's just good business" and I can see the 'fighting the franchise tag' angle ... I'll be glad when it's over and it can be confirmed what the holdup was ... it's not even my QB and it's stressing me out,

.

TheOak · 05-07-2012, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

Yeah, "it's just good business" and I can see the 'fighting the franchise tag' angle ... I'll be glad when it's over and it can be confirmed what the holdup was ... it's not even my QB and it's stressing me out, .

The public may never know the real reason for the hold up. Once it is signed I doubt anyone will care...

Saint_LB · 05-11-2012, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD!

I have to very respectfully disagree with that statement. I don't believe it is possible to have the best season that any QB ever had and have that season end with less than a Lombardi. If it were true, then people could realistically claim that Marino was the best QB to ever play the game. EVER!!!

burningmetal · 05-12-2012, 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I guess I'm going to get the a-hole tag today because I'm going to play Tom Condon:

Peyton Manning has not played in more than a year. He has a documented injury that could by all accounts end his career. He just signed a 5 year $96 million that pays essentially a flat $20 a year. And BTW he's 36.

My guy is 3 years younger. My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD! I repeat EVER HAD! The last 5 years has been the best 5 year stretch in the history of the NFL for a QB. Your franchise won its first SB ever with my guy at the helm.

So exactly why should my guy take a back seat to a QB who is older and injured? Why should we settle for a shorter contract? My guy wants to retire here in New Orleans. He wants the well deserved security and respect that should be afforded to what is by all accounts a HOF QB at the prime of his career.

Let's find a way to get this done so we can get back to the business of winning championships. 5 years, $115 million, with $75 million frontloaded in the first three years frankly isn't too much to ask. My guy is the best QB in the NFL and can likely be the best QB in the history of the NFL if we can get this done.

End presentation.

SFIAH

What you are saying is undoubtedly what Tom Condon has been preaching about. But if you were Tom Condon and I were Mickey Loomis, this is what I'd say to you:

"It's not our fault the Broncos over paid, and in the process, risked mortgaging their future for one guy who even if he bounces back, is too old to build a franchise around. He might have three good years in him. But we have a great team assembled here around Drew Brees, and in order to keep this thing intact, we simply cannot afford what you are asking. That said, of course we want Drew, and that is why we've offered him a deal that would make him the highest paid quarterback ever."

I'm tired of players getting caught up in trying to compete with the market. You are being offered mega millions, to go along with the 60 somethin' million you just made on your previous contract. I don't want to hear that your average salary isn't as high in the first three years... all that means is that it will skyrocket in the next 2-3 years. So you're going to get all of that money eventually, unless you die. And if you die, what do you plan on doing with all that money?

I know this might sound like I'm hating on Drew, but I'm not. I still think he's a good guy, and a great leader on the field. But we need his off field leadership right now, and he's nowhere to be seen. We're not talking about asking your boss a raise from 10.50 an hour, to 11.25 and being told that's too much. So please, spare me the generic "you wouldn't be happy if your boss didn't pay you what you deserve" excuse. These are millionaires whining about what equates to a child saying his ice cream cone wasn't as big as the other kids'.

05-06-2012, 10:36 AM	#1
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Originally Posted by SloMotion ... this is what I don't understand about the whole deal, Brees has been offered a couple pretty good contracts, sign one already! ... I'm all for a guy getting what he's worth and negotiating the best deal, but at $64.3mil for three years, does it matter if you get a long term contract? I mean, take the money, play three seasons & retire to the broadcast booth for crissake ... just sign already! I guess I'm going to get the a-hole tag today because I'm going to play Tom Condon: Peyton Manning has not played in more than a year. He has a documented injury that could by all accounts end his career. He just signed a 5 year $96 million that pays essentially a flat $20 a year. And BTW he's 36. My guy is 3 years younger. My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD! I repeat EVER HAD! The last 5 years has been the best 5 year stretch in the history of the NFL for a QB. Your franchise won its first SB ever with my guy at the helm. So exactly why should my guy take a back seat to a QB who is older and injured? Why should we settle for a shorter contract? My guy wants to retire here in New Orleans. He wants the well deserved security and respect that should be afforded to what is by all accounts a HOF QB at the prime of his career. Let's find a way to get this done so we can get back to the business of winning championships. 5 years, $115 million, with $75 million frontloaded in the first three years frankly isn't too much to ask. My guy is the best QB in the NFL and can likely be the best QB in the history of the NFL if we can get this done. End presentation. SFIAH iceshack149 and TheOak like this.
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05-06-2012, 12:19 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I guess I'm going to get the a-hole tag today because I'm going to play Tom Condon: Peyton Manning has not played in more than a year. He has a documented injury that could by all accounts end his career. He just signed a 5 year $96 million that pays essentially a flat $20 a year. And BTW he's 36. My guy is 3 years younger. My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD! I repeat EVER HAD! The last 5 years has been the best 5 year stretch in the history of the NFL for a QB. Your franchise won its first SB ever with my guy at the helm. So exactly why should my guy take a back seat to a QB who is older and injured? Why should we settle for a shorter contract? My guy wants to retire here in New Orleans. He wants the well deserved security and respect that should be afforded to what is by all accounts a HOF QB at the prime of his career. Let's find a way to get this done so we can get back to the business of winning championships. 5 years, $115 million, with $75 million frontloaded in the first three years frankly isn't too much to ask. My guy is the best QB in the NFL and can likely be the best QB in the history of the NFL if we can get this done. End presentation. SFIAH The only problem is that you don't know what was offered and what was requested. Brees may have been low-balled, then again he may have been offered more than any player in NFL history. My guess is that we wanted it structured so that he gets a huge jump in 2014 when the salary cap rises substantially. That keeps us cap friendly for 2012 and 2013. Tom probably said NFW, we want it now.

05-07-2012, 01:25 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Originally Posted by Danno The only problem is that you don't know what was offered and what was requested. Brees may have been low-balled, then again he may have been offered more than any player in NFL history. My guess is that we wanted it structured so that he gets a huge jump in 2014 when the salary cap rises substantially. That keeps us cap friendly for 2012 and 2013. Tom probably said NFW, we want it now. It always comes back to Tom Condon, doesn't it?!?

05-11-2012, 05:38 AM	#4
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Originally Posted by jeanpierre It always comes back to Tom Condon, doesn't it?!? Of course it always comes back to the agent. The agent's job is to get their client the best deal to be had. From his perspective, Condon is smelling like roses. By waiting he got one client, Carl Nicks, the richest deal for a guard ever. By waiting, Manning got signed to a deal that's virtually $20 million, setting a QB bar for an older injured QB as opposed to his client. By waiting, everyone got to see the guaranteed $53 million that Calvin Johnson signed for. From a pure business standpoint, by waiting, Condon has honestly made that $23 million/year not look ridiculous. So of course it always comes back to agent. If there were no agent in the picture, Drew probably would have signed last year, or during the year. Getting the best deal for his client is his job. And looking at his track record, he's very very good at it. I still predict the final numbers will come in between $21 and $22 million/year with $60+ million guaranteed, virtually guaranteeing that Drew retires a Saint. But it's going to take some work and some time to get there. SFIAH
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05-07-2012, 07:21 AM	#5
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I guess I'm going to get the a-hole tag today because I'm going to play Tom Condon: Peyton Manning has not played in more than a year. He has a documented injury that could by all accounts end his career. He just signed a 5 year $96 million that pays essentially a flat $20 a year. And BTW he's 36. My guy is 3 years younger. My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD! I repeat EVER HAD! The last 5 years has been the best 5 year stretch in the history of the NFL for a QB. Your franchise won its first SB ever with my guy at the helm. So exactly why should my guy take a back seat to a QB who is older and injured? Why should we settle for a shorter contract? My guy wants to retire here in New Orleans. He wants the well deserved security and respect that should be afforded to what is by all accounts a HOF QB at the prime of his career. Let's find a way to get this done so we can get back to the business of winning championships. 5 years, $115 million, with $75 million frontloaded in the first three years frankly isn't too much to ask. My guy is the best QB in the NFL and can likely be the best QB in the history of the NFL if we can get this done. End presentation. SFIAH That's fair, I understand and have no problem with Brees getting paid what he's worth or based on his performance, but as I've browsed the board the past 3-4 months, I've seen he's been offered a couple pretty impressive contracts that would have made him the highest paid player in the NFL at the time? And now there's the whole franchise-tag-thing to contend with ... I just can't figure out what he's waiting on, unless they're waiting to see how much salary cap will be freed up due to player suspensions/penalties so they can offer Drew more. ? Maybe I'm naive and can't relate to the problems of the-rich-and-famous-athlete types, but how much more then $18mil-or-so a year do you need before you have the well-deserved security & respect you feel should be afforded you? It's been beat to death, I know, I'm just transitioning over to the, "like Drew as a player and want to see him sign with NO, but this has been dragging out too long and not so much supporting his contract fight anymore" side. While I can't see Brees playing for anyone other then New Orleans, I'm starting to think the only thing that will keep Drew from retiring a Saint is Drew, or Tom Condon, whoever is running that show, and a viable option for Brees (at 33) is to sign a three year contract, retire a Saint at age 36 and field offers from the networks, all of which would be glad to have him on their broadcast teams ... now that's a plan for security & respect, IMO. FinSaint likes this.

05-07-2012, 08:29 AM	#6
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Originally Posted by SloMotion That's fair, I understand and have no problem with Brees getting paid what he's worth or based on his performance, but as I've browsed the board the past 3-4 months, I've seen he's been offered a couple pretty impressive contracts that would have made him the highest paid player in the NFL at the time? And now there's the whole franchise-tag-thing to contend with ... I just can't figure out what he's waiting on, unless they're waiting to see how much salary cap will be freed up due to player suspensions/penalties so they can offer Drew more. ? Maybe I'm naive and can't relate to the problems of the-rich-and-famous-athlete types, but how much more then $18mil-or-so a year do you need before you have the well-deserved security & respect you feel should be afforded you? It's been beat to death, I know, I'm just transitioning over to the, "like Drew as a player and want to see him sign with NO, but this has been dragging out too long and not so much supporting his contract fight anymore" side. While I can't see Brees playing for anyone other then New Orleans, I'm starting to think the only thing that will keep Drew from retiring a Saint is Drew, or Tom Condon, whoever is running that show, and a viable option for Brees (at 33) is to sign a three year contract, retire a Saint at age 36 and field offers from the networks, all of which would be glad to have him on their broadcast teams ... now that's a plan for security & respect, IMO. Slo... Its not a question of "need", obviously Drews "ends are meeting". Besides the great post by SFIAH, I am sure there is some "lime light" that the Saints/Drew/Condon want in the form of Highest paid player. Drews contract does not just effect Drew, Condon, Saints. It will effect each and every other QB that gets hits with a franchise tag also.... There is a business game behind the football game. The higher Drews contract is, the farther north the franchise tag goes... would be a good chess move to make another QB for another team unaffordable because the FT went up . I am not entirely sure the debate at this point is value, I think it is loading...
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05-07-2012, 11:21 AM	#7
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Originally Posted by x626xBlack Slo... Its not a question of "need", obviously Drews "ends are meeting". Besides the great post by SFIAH, I am sure there is some "lime light" that the Saints/Drew/Condon want in the form of Highest paid player. Drews contract does not just effect Drew, Condon, Saints. It will effect each and every other QB that gets hits with a franchise tag also.... There is a business game behind the football game. The higher Drews contract is, the farther north the franchise tag goes... would be a good chess move to make another QB for another team unaffordable because the FT went up . I am not entirely sure the debate at this point is value, I think it is loading... Yeah, "it's just good business" and I can see the 'fighting the franchise tag' angle ... I'll be glad when it's over and it can be confirmed what the holdup was ... it's not even my QB and it's stressing me out, . Rugby Saint II likes this.

05-07-2012, 12:44 PM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Originally Posted by SloMotion Yeah, "it's just good business" and I can see the 'fighting the franchise tag' angle ... I'll be glad when it's over and it can be confirmed what the holdup was ... it's not even my QB and it's stressing me out, . The public may never know the real reason for the hold up. Once it is signed I doubt anyone will care... SapperSaint likes this.

05-11-2012, 05:53 AM	#9
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD! I have to very respectfully disagree with that statement. I don't believe it is possible to have the best season that any QB ever had and have that season end with less than a Lombardi. If it were true, then people could realistically claim that Marino was the best QB to ever play the game. EVER!!!
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05-12-2012, 05:01 AM	#10
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I guess I'm going to get the a-hole tag today because I'm going to play Tom Condon: Peyton Manning has not played in more than a year. He has a documented injury that could by all accounts end his career. He just signed a 5 year $96 million that pays essentially a flat $20 a year. And BTW he's 36. My guy is 3 years younger. My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD! I repeat EVER HAD! The last 5 years has been the best 5 year stretch in the history of the NFL for a QB. Your franchise won its first SB ever with my guy at the helm. So exactly why should my guy take a back seat to a QB who is older and injured? Why should we settle for a shorter contract? My guy wants to retire here in New Orleans. He wants the well deserved security and respect that should be afforded to what is by all accounts a HOF QB at the prime of his career. Let's find a way to get this done so we can get back to the business of winning championships. 5 years, $115 million, with $75 million frontloaded in the first three years frankly isn't too much to ask. My guy is the best QB in the NFL and can likely be the best QB in the history of the NFL if we can get this done. End presentation. SFIAH What you are saying is undoubtedly what Tom Condon has been preaching about. But if you were Tom Condon and I were Mickey Loomis, this is what I'd say to you: "It's not our fault the Broncos over paid, and in the process, risked mortgaging their future for one guy who even if he bounces back, is too old to build a franchise around. He might have three good years in him. But we have a great team assembled here around Drew Brees, and in order to keep this thing intact, we simply cannot afford what you are asking. That said, of course we want Drew, and that is why we've offered him a deal that would make him the highest paid quarterback ever." I'm tired of players getting caught up in trying to compete with the market. You are being offered mega millions, to go along with the 60 somethin' million you just made on your previous contract. I don't want to hear that your average salary isn't as high in the first three years... all that means is that it will skyrocket in the next 2-3 years. So you're going to get all of that money eventually, unless you die. And if you die, what do you plan on doing with all that money? I know this might sound like I'm hating on Drew, but I'm not. I still think he's a good guy, and a great leader on the field. But we need his off field leadership right now, and he's nowhere to be seen. We're not talking about asking your boss a raise from 10.50 an hour, to 11.25 and being told that's too much. So please, spare me the generic "you wouldn't be happy if your boss didn't pay you what you deserve" excuse. These are millionaires whining about what equates to a child saying his ice cream cone wasn't as big as the other kids'. FinSaint likes this.
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