Brees’ franchise tender comes in at $16.371 million

WhoDat!656 · 05-03-2012, 02:47 PM

Saints quarterback Drew Brees wants a long-term deal. But if he decides at some point to accept the one-year exclusive franchise tender, Brees will receive $16.371 million for 2012.

Or, in other words, $1.023 million per game.

The number reflects the average of the five highest-paid players at the quarterback position for the current year. (For non-exclusive franchise tenders, the average is based on the prior year.)

Restructurings of contracts by quarterbacks like Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, and Tom Brady drove down the average. Peyton Manning’s $18 million payout from the Broncos in 2012 helped boost the number a bit, even though the cap number is lower than what it would have been if Manning hadn’t been cut by the Colts.

If the Saints decide to go year-to-year with Brees, he’ll be entitled to $19.645 million in 2013 (i.e., 120 percent of his 2012 pay) and a whopping $28.289 million in 2014 (144 percent of his 2013 pay).

That’s a total of $64.3 million over three years. Thus, if Brees currently is looking for an average payout of more than $21.43 million per year over the next three years (which equates to $64.3 million over three years), it makes no financial sense for the Saints to offer him a long-term deal.

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TheOak · 05-03-2012, 02:52 PM

Florio is dim at best. Not "financialy"? Try selling Jerseys with Daniel on the back. Try making the playoffs with out Brees. Try filling the Super Dome with out Brees. Try doing a lot of things with out Brees on the team.

That article does not factor where the team is if Brees walks and goes to another team.

mighty12 · 05-03-2012, 04:04 PM

This article is so dumb, I HAD to comment. Brees is not looking for just more money. He wants long term security. A long term deal with a nice signing bonus, in the event that he gets hurt and the Saints decide(Like the Chargers did) to part ways with him. He would never stay around for that 2nd or 3rd Franchise tender. People get paid to write this crap? I missed my calling.

Danno · 05-03-2012, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by mighty12

This article is so dumb, I HAD to comment. Brees is not looking for just more money. He wants long term security.

We've offered him just that...

TWICE!!!

He wants to prison-rape our Saints long term, it so obvious.

SloMotion · 05-06-2012, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

We've offered him just that...

TWICE!!!

He wants to prison-rape our Saints long term, it so obvious.

... this is what I don't understand about the whole deal, Brees has been offered a couple pretty good contracts, sign one already! ... I'm all for a guy getting what he's worth and negotiating the best deal, but at $64.3mil for three years, does it matter if you get a long term contract? I mean, take the money, play three seasons & retire to the broadcast booth for crissake ... just sign already!

SaintFanInATLHELL · 05-06-2012, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

... this is what I don't understand about the whole deal, Brees has been offered a couple pretty good contracts, sign one already! ... I'm all for a guy getting what he's worth and negotiating the best deal, but at $64.3mil for three years, does it matter if you get a long term contract? I mean, take the money, play three seasons & retire to the broadcast booth for crissake ... just sign already!

I guess I'm going to get the a-hole tag today because I'm going to play Tom Condon:

Peyton Manning has not played in more than a year. He has a documented injury that could by all accounts end his career. He just signed a 5 year $96 million that pays essentially a flat $20 a year. And BTW he's 36.

My guy is 3 years younger. My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD! I repeat EVER HAD! The last 5 years has been the best 5 year stretch in the history of the NFL for a QB. Your franchise won its first SB ever with my guy at the helm.

So exactly why should my guy take a back seat to a QB who is older and injured? Why should we settle for a shorter contract? My guy wants to retire here in New Orleans. He wants the well deserved security and respect that should be afforded to what is by all accounts a HOF QB at the prime of his career.

Let's find a way to get this done so we can get back to the business of winning championships. 5 years, $115 million, with $75 million frontloaded in the first three years frankly isn't too much to ask. My guy is the best QB in the NFL and can likely be the best QB in the history of the NFL if we can get this done.

End presentation.

SFIAH

Danno · 05-06-2012, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I guess I'm going to get the a-hole tag today because I'm going to play Tom Condon:

Peyton Manning has not played in more than a year. He has a documented injury that could by all accounts end his career. He just signed a 5 year $96 million that pays essentially a flat $20 a year. And BTW he's 36.

My guy is 3 years younger. My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD! I repeat EVER HAD! The last 5 years has been the best 5 year stretch in the history of the NFL for a QB. Your franchise won its first SB ever with my guy at the helm.

So exactly why should my guy take a back seat to a QB who is older and injured? Why should we settle for a shorter contract? My guy wants to retire here in New Orleans. He wants the well deserved security and respect that should be afforded to what is by all accounts a HOF QB at the prime of his career.

Let's find a way to get this done so we can get back to the business of winning championships. 5 years, $115 million, with $75 million frontloaded in the first three years frankly isn't too much to ask. My guy is the best QB in the NFL and can likely be the best QB in the history of the NFL if we can get this done.

End presentation.

SFIAH

The only problem is that you don't know what was offered and what was requested.

Brees may have been low-balled, then again he may have been offered more than any player in NFL history.

My guess is that we wanted it structured so that he gets a huge jump in 2014 when the salary cap rises substantially. That keeps us cap friendly for 2012 and 2013.
Tom probably said NFW, we want it now.

SloMotion · 05-07-2012, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I guess I'm going to get the a-hole tag today because I'm going to play Tom Condon:

Peyton Manning has not played in more than a year. He has a documented injury that could by all accounts end his career. He just signed a 5 year $96 million that pays essentially a flat $20 a year. And BTW he's 36.

My guy is 3 years younger. My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD! I repeat EVER HAD! The last 5 years has been the best 5 year stretch in the history of the NFL for a QB. Your franchise won its first SB ever with my guy at the helm.

So exactly why should my guy take a back seat to a QB who is older and injured? Why should we settle for a shorter contract? My guy wants to retire here in New Orleans. He wants the well deserved security and respect that should be afforded to what is by all accounts a HOF QB at the prime of his career.

Let's find a way to get this done so we can get back to the business of winning championships. 5 years, $115 million, with $75 million frontloaded in the first three years frankly isn't too much to ask. My guy is the best QB in the NFL and can likely be the best QB in the history of the NFL if we can get this done.

End presentation.

SFIAH

That's fair, I understand and have no problem with Brees getting paid what he's worth or based on his performance, but as I've browsed the board the past 3-4 months, I've seen he's been offered a couple pretty impressive contracts that would have made him the highest paid player in the NFL at the time? And now there's the whole franchise-tag-thing to contend with ... I just can't figure out what he's waiting on, unless they're waiting to see how much salary cap will be freed up due to player suspensions/penalties so they can offer Drew more. ?

Maybe I'm naive and can't relate to the problems of the-rich-and-famous-athlete types, but how much more then $18mil-or-so a year do you need before you have the well-deserved security & respect you feel should be afforded you? It's been beat to death, I know, I'm just transitioning over to the, "like Drew as a player and want to see him sign with NO, but this has been dragging out too long and not so much supporting his contract fight anymore" side.

While I can't see Brees playing for anyone other then New Orleans, I'm starting to think the only thing that will keep Drew from retiring a Saint is Drew, or Tom Condon, whoever is running that show, and a viable option for Brees (at 33) is to sign a three year contract, retire a Saint at age 36 and field offers from the networks, all of which would be glad to have him on their broadcast teams ... now that's a plan for security & respect, IMO.

Saint_LB · 05-11-2012, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD!

I have to very respectfully disagree with that statement. I don't believe it is possible to have the best season that any QB ever had and have that season end with less than a Lombardi. If it were true, then people could realistically claim that Marino was the best QB to ever play the game. EVER!!!

burningmetal · 05-12-2012, 05:01 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I guess I'm going to get the a-hole tag today because I'm going to play Tom Condon:

Peyton Manning has not played in more than a year. He has a documented injury that could by all accounts end his career. He just signed a 5 year $96 million that pays essentially a flat $20 a year. And BTW he's 36.

My guy is 3 years younger. My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD! I repeat EVER HAD! The last 5 years has been the best 5 year stretch in the history of the NFL for a QB. Your franchise won its first SB ever with my guy at the helm.

So exactly why should my guy take a back seat to a QB who is older and injured? Why should we settle for a shorter contract? My guy wants to retire here in New Orleans. He wants the well deserved security and respect that should be afforded to what is by all accounts a HOF QB at the prime of his career.

Let's find a way to get this done so we can get back to the business of winning championships. 5 years, $115 million, with $75 million frontloaded in the first three years frankly isn't too much to ask. My guy is the best QB in the NFL and can likely be the best QB in the history of the NFL if we can get this done.

End presentation.

SFIAH

What you are saying is undoubtedly what Tom Condon has been preaching about. But if you were Tom Condon and I were Mickey Loomis, this is what I'd say to you:

"It's not our fault the Broncos over paid, and in the process, risked mortgaging their future for one guy who even if he bounces back, is too old to build a franchise around. He might have three good years in him. But we have a great team assembled here around Drew Brees, and in order to keep this thing intact, we simply cannot afford what you are asking. That said, of course we want Drew, and that is why we've offered him a deal that would make him the highest paid quarterback ever."

I'm tired of players getting caught up in trying to compete with the market. You are being offered mega millions, to go along with the 60 somethin' million you just made on your previous contract. I don't want to hear that your average salary isn't as high in the first three years... all that means is that it will skyrocket in the next 2-3 years. So you're going to get all of that money eventually, unless you die. And if you die, what do you plan on doing with all that money?

I know this might sound like I'm hating on Drew, but I'm not. I still think he's a good guy, and a great leader on the field. But we need his off field leadership right now, and he's nowhere to be seen. We're not talking about asking your boss a raise from 10.50 an hour, to 11.25 and being told that's too much. So please, spare me the generic "you wouldn't be happy if your boss didn't pay you what you deserve" excuse. These are millionaires whining about what equates to a child saying his ice cream cone wasn't as big as the other kids'.

05-03-2012, 02:47 PM	#1
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,086	Brees’ franchise tender comes in at $16.371 million Saints quarterback Drew Brees wants a long-term deal. But if he decides at some point to accept the one-year exclusive franchise tender, Brees will receive $16.371 million for 2012. Or, in other words, $1.023 million per game. The number reflects the average of the five highest-paid players at the quarterback position for the current year. (For non-exclusive franchise tenders, the average is based on the prior year.) Restructurings of contracts by quarterbacks like Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, and Tom Brady drove down the average. Peyton Manning’s $18 million payout from the Broncos in 2012 helped boost the number a bit, even though the cap number is lower than what it would have been if Manning hadn’t been cut by the Colts. If the Saints decide to go year-to-year with Brees, he’ll be entitled to $19.645 million in 2013 (i.e., 120 percent of his 2012 pay) and a whopping $28.289 million in 2014 (144 percent of his 2013 pay). That’s a total of $64.3 million over three years. Thus, if Brees currently is looking for an average payout of more than $21.43 million per year over the next three years (which equates to $64.3 million over three years), it makes no financial sense for the Saints to offer him a long-term deal. Brees
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Florio is dim at best. Not "financialy"? Try selling Jerseys with Daniel on the back. Try making the playoffs with out Brees. Try filling the Super Dome with out Brees. Try doing a lot of things with out Brees on the team. That article does not factor where the team is if Brees walks and goes to another team. jeanpierre likes this.

05-03-2012, 06:37 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Originally Posted by mighty12 This article is so dumb, I HAD to comment. Brees is not looking for just more money. He wants long term security. We've offered him just that... TWICE!!! He wants to prison-rape our Saints long term, it so obvious. SapperSaint and TheKillerBs like this.

05-06-2012, 08:25 AM	#5
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Originally Posted by Danno We've offered him just that... TWICE!!! He wants to prison-rape our Saints long term, it so obvious. ... this is what I don't understand about the whole deal, Brees has been offered a couple pretty good contracts, sign one already! ... I'm all for a guy getting what he's worth and negotiating the best deal, but at $64.3mil for three years, does it matter if you get a long term contract? I mean, take the money, play three seasons & retire to the broadcast booth for crissake ... just sign already!

05-06-2012, 10:36 AM	#6
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Originally Posted by SloMotion ... this is what I don't understand about the whole deal, Brees has been offered a couple pretty good contracts, sign one already! ... I'm all for a guy getting what he's worth and negotiating the best deal, but at $64.3mil for three years, does it matter if you get a long term contract? I mean, take the money, play three seasons & retire to the broadcast booth for crissake ... just sign already! I guess I'm going to get the a-hole tag today because I'm going to play Tom Condon: Peyton Manning has not played in more than a year. He has a documented injury that could by all accounts end his career. He just signed a 5 year $96 million that pays essentially a flat $20 a year. And BTW he's 36. My guy is 3 years younger. My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD! I repeat EVER HAD! The last 5 years has been the best 5 year stretch in the history of the NFL for a QB. Your franchise won its first SB ever with my guy at the helm. So exactly why should my guy take a back seat to a QB who is older and injured? Why should we settle for a shorter contract? My guy wants to retire here in New Orleans. He wants the well deserved security and respect that should be afforded to what is by all accounts a HOF QB at the prime of his career. Let's find a way to get this done so we can get back to the business of winning championships. 5 years, $115 million, with $75 million frontloaded in the first three years frankly isn't too much to ask. My guy is the best QB in the NFL and can likely be the best QB in the history of the NFL if we can get this done. End presentation. SFIAH iceshack149 and TheOak like this.
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05-03-2012, 04:04 PM	#3
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	This article is so dumb, I HAD to comment. Brees is not looking for just more money. He wants long term security. A long term deal with a nice signing bonus, in the event that he gets hurt and the Saints decide(Like the Chargers did) to part ways with him. He would never stay around for that 2nd or 3rd Franchise tender. People get paid to write this crap? I missed my calling.

05-06-2012, 12:19 PM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I guess I'm going to get the a-hole tag today because I'm going to play Tom Condon: Peyton Manning has not played in more than a year. He has a documented injury that could by all accounts end his career. He just signed a 5 year $96 million that pays essentially a flat $20 a year. And BTW he's 36. My guy is 3 years younger. My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD! I repeat EVER HAD! The last 5 years has been the best 5 year stretch in the history of the NFL for a QB. Your franchise won its first SB ever with my guy at the helm. So exactly why should my guy take a back seat to a QB who is older and injured? Why should we settle for a shorter contract? My guy wants to retire here in New Orleans. He wants the well deserved security and respect that should be afforded to what is by all accounts a HOF QB at the prime of his career. Let's find a way to get this done so we can get back to the business of winning championships. 5 years, $115 million, with $75 million frontloaded in the first three years frankly isn't too much to ask. My guy is the best QB in the NFL and can likely be the best QB in the history of the NFL if we can get this done. End presentation. SFIAH The only problem is that you don't know what was offered and what was requested. Brees may have been low-balled, then again he may have been offered more than any player in NFL history. My guess is that we wanted it structured so that he gets a huge jump in 2014 when the salary cap rises substantially. That keeps us cap friendly for 2012 and 2013. Tom probably said NFW, we want it now.

05-07-2012, 07:21 AM	#8
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I guess I'm going to get the a-hole tag today because I'm going to play Tom Condon: Peyton Manning has not played in more than a year. He has a documented injury that could by all accounts end his career. He just signed a 5 year $96 million that pays essentially a flat $20 a year. And BTW he's 36. My guy is 3 years younger. My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD! I repeat EVER HAD! The last 5 years has been the best 5 year stretch in the history of the NFL for a QB. Your franchise won its first SB ever with my guy at the helm. So exactly why should my guy take a back seat to a QB who is older and injured? Why should we settle for a shorter contract? My guy wants to retire here in New Orleans. He wants the well deserved security and respect that should be afforded to what is by all accounts a HOF QB at the prime of his career. Let's find a way to get this done so we can get back to the business of winning championships. 5 years, $115 million, with $75 million frontloaded in the first three years frankly isn't too much to ask. My guy is the best QB in the NFL and can likely be the best QB in the history of the NFL if we can get this done. End presentation. SFIAH That's fair, I understand and have no problem with Brees getting paid what he's worth or based on his performance, but as I've browsed the board the past 3-4 months, I've seen he's been offered a couple pretty impressive contracts that would have made him the highest paid player in the NFL at the time? And now there's the whole franchise-tag-thing to contend with ... I just can't figure out what he's waiting on, unless they're waiting to see how much salary cap will be freed up due to player suspensions/penalties so they can offer Drew more. ? Maybe I'm naive and can't relate to the problems of the-rich-and-famous-athlete types, but how much more then $18mil-or-so a year do you need before you have the well-deserved security & respect you feel should be afforded you? It's been beat to death, I know, I'm just transitioning over to the, "like Drew as a player and want to see him sign with NO, but this has been dragging out too long and not so much supporting his contract fight anymore" side. While I can't see Brees playing for anyone other then New Orleans, I'm starting to think the only thing that will keep Drew from retiring a Saint is Drew, or Tom Condon, whoever is running that show, and a viable option for Brees (at 33) is to sign a three year contract, retire a Saint at age 36 and field offers from the networks, all of which would be glad to have him on their broadcast teams ... now that's a plan for security & respect, IMO. FinSaint likes this.

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Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD! I have to very respectfully disagree with that statement. I don't believe it is possible to have the best season that any QB ever had and have that season end with less than a Lombardi. If it were true, then people could realistically claim that Marino was the best QB to ever play the game. EVER!!!
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05-12-2012, 05:01 AM	#10
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I guess I'm going to get the a-hole tag today because I'm going to play Tom Condon: Peyton Manning has not played in more than a year. He has a documented injury that could by all accounts end his career. He just signed a 5 year $96 million that pays essentially a flat $20 a year. And BTW he's 36. My guy is 3 years younger. My guy just had the best season that an NFL QB has EVER HAD! I repeat EVER HAD! The last 5 years has been the best 5 year stretch in the history of the NFL for a QB. Your franchise won its first SB ever with my guy at the helm. So exactly why should my guy take a back seat to a QB who is older and injured? Why should we settle for a shorter contract? My guy wants to retire here in New Orleans. He wants the well deserved security and respect that should be afforded to what is by all accounts a HOF QB at the prime of his career. Let's find a way to get this done so we can get back to the business of winning championships. 5 years, $115 million, with $75 million frontloaded in the first three years frankly isn't too much to ask. My guy is the best QB in the NFL and can likely be the best QB in the history of the NFL if we can get this done. End presentation. SFIAH What you are saying is undoubtedly what Tom Condon has been preaching about. But if you were Tom Condon and I were Mickey Loomis, this is what I'd say to you: "It's not our fault the Broncos over paid, and in the process, risked mortgaging their future for one guy who even if he bounces back, is too old to build a franchise around. He might have three good years in him. But we have a great team assembled here around Drew Brees, and in order to keep this thing intact, we simply cannot afford what you are asking. That said, of course we want Drew, and that is why we've offered him a deal that would make him the highest paid quarterback ever." I'm tired of players getting caught up in trying to compete with the market. You are being offered mega millions, to go along with the 60 somethin' million you just made on your previous contract. I don't want to hear that your average salary isn't as high in the first three years... all that means is that it will skyrocket in the next 2-3 years. So you're going to get all of that money eventually, unless you die. And if you die, what do you plan on doing with all that money? I know this might sound like I'm hating on Drew, but I'm not. I still think he's a good guy, and a great leader on the field. But we need his off field leadership right now, and he's nowhere to be seen. We're not talking about asking your boss a raise from 10.50 an hour, to 11.25 and being told that's too much. So please, spare me the generic "you wouldn't be happy if your boss didn't pay you what you deserve" excuse. These are millionaires whining about what equates to a child saying his ice cream cone wasn't as big as the other kids'. FinSaint likes this.
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