The Drew Brees contract issue

saintfan · 05-16-2012, 01:29 PM

The only thing Drew can do is stay wherever he is until the check clears. 10 business days...

SapperSaint · 05-16-2012, 01:46 PM

I am calm now. I have become with my inner zen as far as the Brees contract goes.

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Jamessr · 05-16-2012, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

drew has what? another two maybe 3 years left in the tank. age or desire to play will bring an end to his days in the nfl.

how many people really think he will last 5 more years?

Isn't Peyton Manning 2 years older than him and just signed a 5 year deal?
I still don't understand where all this 2-3 years left in Drew Brees is coming from.

SloMotion · 05-16-2012, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Isn't Peyton Manning 2 years older than him and just signed a 5 year deal?
I still don't understand where all this 2-3 years left in Drew Brees is coming from.

Manning signing a 5-year deal is one thing ... Manning playing out a 5-year deal is quite another ... not that I don't think Drew has more mileage left on him then Manning, just think Manning should have retired and Brees' is getting up there ... IDK if using Manning as a benchmark comparison to Brees really fits.

Jamessr · 05-16-2012, 03:21 PM

Maybe...

Steve Young 40 when he retired.
Kurt Warner 38 when he retired and I sure he still had a year or 2 left until his wife told him to quit.
If the NFL is truly "quarterback friendly" Drew should be fine.
Sorry I'm just in a debating mood today.

TheOak · 05-16-2012, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Isn't Peyton Manning 2 years older than him and just signed a 5 year deal?
I still don't understand where all this 2-3 years left in Drew Brees is coming from.

Average career length of a QB in the NFL that has played more than 1 year is 6.6 years.

Drew is going on 12.....

Only a handful of NFL quarterbacks have had 10+ year careers.

TheOak · 05-16-2012, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Maybe...

Steve Young 40 when he retired.
Kurt Warner 38 when he retired and I sure he still had a year or 2 left until his wife told him to quit.
If the NFL is truly "quarterback friendly" Drew should be fine.
Sorry I'm just in a debating mood today.

It has nothing to do with age (well not entirely)..

Its seasons/games started and beat half to death that counts.

Warner was 27 when he started and only started in 10 seasons. He actually only has 3 seasons where he started 16 games.

I would say to gauge the life of a QB in the NFL you have to go off of games started.... Every game takes a little bit out of them.

Every Game for a starting QB against the Saints in 2009 took a whole lot out of them.

SloMotion · 05-16-2012, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

Maybe...

Steve Young 40 when he retired.
Kurt Warner 38 when he retired and I sure he still had a year or 2 left until his wife told him to quit.
If the NFL is truly "quarterback friendly" Drew should be fine.
Sorry I'm just in a debating mood today.

Yeah, those are better comparisons then Manning, and I think about Elway, Marino, Unitas and a few other great QB's, their careers and how they played/retired when I think about Drew Brees and this being possibly his last contract, and I'm thinking he'll be smart enough to know when it's time to hang 'em up, unlike Manning ... which is why I'm inclined to agree with the 2-3/3-4 seasons left theories ... Drew's played a lot of football.

TheOak · 05-16-2012, 04:33 PM

Interesting comment by Warren Moon on Sirius NFL...

What are the possibilities that the Saints FO intends on giving Drew the contract that he wants but is making him sweat a little because of the part he played in the lockout last year? Which was fairly significant in regards to his participation in the negotiations.

TheOak · 05-16-2012, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

Yeah, those are better comparisons then Manning, and I think about Elway, Marino, Unitas and a few other great QB's, their careers and how they played/retired when I think about Drew Brees and this being possibly his last contract, and I'm thinking he'll be smart enough to know when it's time to hang 'em up, unlike Manning ... which is why I'm inclined to agree with the 2-3/3-4 seasons left theories ... Drew's played a lot of football.

Exactly.... It's all about football mileage

05-16-2012, 01:29 PM	#11
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05-16-2012, 02:37 PM	#13
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Originally Posted by hagan714 drew has what? another two maybe 3 years left in the tank. age or desire to play will bring an end to his days in the nfl. how many people really think he will last 5 more years? Isn't Peyton Manning 2 years older than him and just signed a 5 year deal? I still don't understand where all this 2-3 years left in Drew Brees is coming from.

05-16-2012, 03:10 PM	#14
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Originally Posted by Jamessr Isn't Peyton Manning 2 years older than him and just signed a 5 year deal? I still don't understand where all this 2-3 years left in Drew Brees is coming from. Manning signing a 5-year deal is one thing ... Manning playing out a 5-year deal is quite another ... not that I don't think Drew has more mileage left on him then Manning, just think Manning should have retired and Brees' is getting up there ... IDK if using Manning as a benchmark comparison to Brees really fits. FinSaint likes this.

05-16-2012, 03:36 PM	#16
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,019	Originally Posted by Jamessr Isn't Peyton Manning 2 years older than him and just signed a 5 year deal? I still don't understand where all this 2-3 years left in Drew Brees is coming from. Average career length of a QB in the NFL that has played more than 1 year is 6.6 years. Drew is going on 12..... Only a handful of NFL quarterbacks have had 10+ year careers.

05-16-2012, 03:39 PM	#17
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,019	Originally Posted by Jamessr Maybe... Steve Young 40 when he retired. Kurt Warner 38 when he retired and I sure he still had a year or 2 left until his wife told him to quit. If the NFL is truly "quarterback friendly" Drew should be fine. Sorry I'm just in a debating mood today. It has nothing to do with age (well not entirely).. Its seasons/games started and beat half to death that counts. Warner was 27 when he started and only started in 10 seasons. He actually only has 3 seasons where he started 16 games. I would say to gauge the life of a QB in the NFL you have to go off of games started.... Every game takes a little bit out of them. Every Game for a starting QB against the Saints in 2009 took a whole lot out of them.

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Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Maybe... Steve Young 40 when he retired. Kurt Warner 38 when he retired and I sure he still had a year or 2 left until his wife told him to quit. If the NFL is truly "quarterback friendly" Drew should be fine. Sorry I'm just in a debating mood today.

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SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Originally Posted by Jamessr Maybe... Steve Young 40 when he retired. Kurt Warner 38 when he retired and I sure he still had a year or 2 left until his wife told him to quit. If the NFL is truly "quarterback friendly" Drew should be fine. Sorry I'm just in a debating mood today. Yeah, those are better comparisons then Manning, and I think about Elway, Marino, Unitas and a few other great QB's, their careers and how they played/retired when I think about Drew Brees and this being possibly his last contract, and I'm thinking he'll be smart enough to know when it's time to hang 'em up, unlike Manning ... which is why I'm inclined to agree with the 2-3/3-4 seasons left theories ... Drew's played a lot of football. TheOak likes this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,019	Interesting comment by Warren Moon on Sirius NFL... What are the possibilities that the Saints FO intends on giving Drew the contract that he wants but is making him sweat a little because of the part he played in the lockout last year? Which was fairly significant in regards to his participation in the negotiations.

05-16-2012, 04:35 PM	#20
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,019	Originally Posted by SloMotion Yeah, those are better comparisons then Manning, and I think about Elway, Marino, Unitas and a few other great QB's, their careers and how they played/retired when I think about Drew Brees and this being possibly his last contract, and I'm thinking he'll be smart enough to know when it's time to hang 'em up, unlike Manning ... which is why I'm inclined to agree with the 2-3/3-4 seasons left theories ... Drew's played a lot of football. Exactly.... It's all about football mileage

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