Drew Brees 'extremely frustrated' without deal

dizzle88 · 05-17-2012, 03:04 AM

Brees says he's been comitted throughout to get a deal done....

If that's true why did you reject the last two offers we put on the table, both of which would have made him the highest paid player

This is really getting on my nerves, youd think after the offseason we've had brees would be the one supporting us by being there, team friendly....ha

FinSaint · 05-17-2012, 03:45 AM

Given Brees' importance to the Saints offense, his role in the New Orleans community, and how experienced his agent Tom Condon is at negotiating quarterback contracts, it's surprising that Brees remains without a deal.

Really?!

It's surprising that when a turd like Condon is involved that negotiations drag on... really?!

I think exactly the opposite, I would've been extremely surprised if the negotiations hadn't dragged on with Condon involved and with all the other issues revolving around this deal and the Saints in general.

skymike · 05-17-2012, 07:03 AM

again, I just spend 75$ to fill up my tank with gas. Im driving an 11 yr old pickup truck. Kinda hard to sympathize with someone who doesnt want to work for millions of dollars.

xan · 05-17-2012, 08:55 AM

Nelson Rockefeller said, "Never stay in for the last penny."

st thomas · 05-17-2012, 09:14 AM

listening to a baton rouge sports station last night sounding out on the brees contract delay, it really got my blood boiling, only because it brought back memories of the old days in the meacom ara. the frustration in them years with contract disputes only landed up in trades of the best players we'd had on the roster. back then it was a no brainer just to cut a *****in player than to let them get the upper hand. and thats whats so hard to accept with this brees contract. this man made tom benson so dammed much richer over the last six years and even gave the team there first superbowl, it bought him an nba basketball team. so now can u see why drew don't deserve a part of the house take. wtf is the freakin problem with tom. mickey and and cpas. he's going to finnish his carrer here and we sure would like to keep a person like drew in the organization forever after. he wants to sucure his future in his time. just like we'd do the same in our time. its not going to break the bank, we bought 2 1st rounders in last years draft and never lost sleep over that. is mickey more involved with his own troubles more than the brees contract? i'm just fumming . i hope its done before i press post. because i'm going to off next time. lol

FinSaint · 05-17-2012, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

listening to a baton rouge sports station last night sounding out on the brees contract delay, it really got my blood boiling, only because it brought back memories of the old days in the meacom ara. the frustration in them years with contract disputes only landed up in trades of the best players we'd had on the roster. back then it was a no brainer just to cut a *****in player than to let them get the upper hand. and thats whats so hard to accept with this brees contract. this man made tom benson so dammed much richer over the last six years and even gave the team there first superbowl, it bought him an nba basketball team. so now can u see why drew don't deserve a part of the house take. wtf is the freakin problem with tom. mickey and and cpas. he's going to finnish his carrer here and we sure would like to keep a person like drew in the organization forever after. he wants to sucure his future in his time. just like we'd do the same in our time. its not going to break the bank, we bought 2 1st rounders in last years draft and never lost sleep over that. is mickey more involved with his own troubles more than the brees contract? i'm just fumming . i hope its done before i press post. because i'm going to off next time. lol

I can sympathize with a lot of what you said above, but it's really not that black and white.

I don't think it's a matter of them not willing to pay him what he wants, but mainly how to construct a contract which will fit under the salary cap and still not handcuff the franchise in terms of other players they can bring in.

Also, because of the new CBA and the rookie salary grades involved, low 1st round picks are not that expensive anymore - that's why we're seeing so many trade ups in the draft, since the 1st rounders won't brake the bank anymore.

They'll get it done in time, but not without compromises from both sides.

saintfan · 05-17-2012, 10:49 AM

My math skills suck - so I am prepared for one of you brilliant people to correct me here, but this is how I look at...

One Million in the bank at 3% = 30 thousand dollars a year

Times 16 is 480 thousand dollars

a year

in interest

I'm sure he has financial people that would actually squeeze more than that per year our of 16 million.

That's a LOT of money. I get that he wants all he can get piled on to what he already has. I don't begrudge him that...even a little...

UNTIL he fails to show up at camp. If that happens I'm going to be an angry young man...

but until then I support his efforts to get all he can, down to the last penny. I would do the same thing...but I wouldn't hold out unless I were under paid relative to my peers, and Drew is going to be far from under paid relative to his peers regardless of what contract he ultimately signs.

That's my .02 on the subject. Zooey agrees with me.

QBREES9 · 05-17-2012, 11:50 AM

Get everything you can today, for you do not know what tomorrow brings.

"QBress9"

Just pay the man.

SaintsBro · 05-17-2012, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

I don't think it's a matter of them not willing to pay him what he wants, but mainly how to construct a contract which will fit under the salary cap and still not handcuff the franchise in terms of other players they can bring in.

They'll get it done in time, but not without compromises from both sides.

This is exactly what I am thinking, too. And that the holdup is that when both sides say the same thing, "how to construct a contract which will fit under the salary cap and still not handcuff the franchise" I think that's where Condon and Loomis are saying two different sets of numbers and have two different definitions of what that means.

05-17-2012, 07:03 AM	#13
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	again, I just spend 75$ to fill up my tank with gas. Im driving an 11 yr old pickup truck. Kinda hard to sympathize with someone who doesnt want to work for millions of dollars. SapperSaint, dizzle88, mapcow and 2 others like this.

05-17-2012, 09:14 AM	#15
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	listening to a baton rouge sports station last night sounding out on the brees contract delay, it really got my blood boiling, only because it brought back memories of the old days in the meacom ara. the frustration in them years with contract disputes only landed up in trades of the best players we'd had on the roster. back then it was a no brainer just to cut a *****in player than to let them get the upper hand. and thats whats so hard to accept with this brees contract. this man made tom benson so dammed much richer over the last six years and even gave the team there first superbowl, it bought him an nba basketball team. so now can u see why drew don't deserve a part of the house take. wtf is the freakin problem with tom. mickey and and cpas. he's going to finnish his carrer here and we sure would like to keep a person like drew in the organization forever after. he wants to sucure his future in his time. just like we'd do the same in our time. its not going to break the bank, we bought 2 1st rounders in last years draft and never lost sleep over that. is mickey more involved with his own troubles more than the brees contract? i'm just fumming . i hope its done before i press post. because i'm going to off next time. lol
	thats the fact jack!!!!!

05-17-2012, 09:41 AM	#16
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Originally Posted by st thomas listening to a baton rouge sports station last night sounding out on the brees contract delay, it really got my blood boiling, only because it brought back memories of the old days in the meacom ara. the frustration in them years with contract disputes only landed up in trades of the best players we'd had on the roster. back then it was a no brainer just to cut a *****in player than to let them get the upper hand. and thats whats so hard to accept with this brees contract. this man made tom benson so dammed much richer over the last six years and even gave the team there first superbowl, it bought him an nba basketball team. so now can u see why drew don't deserve a part of the house take. wtf is the freakin problem with tom. mickey and and cpas. he's going to finnish his carrer here and we sure would like to keep a person like drew in the organization forever after. he wants to sucure his future in his time. just like we'd do the same in our time. its not going to break the bank, we bought 2 1st rounders in last years draft and never lost sleep over that. is mickey more involved with his own troubles more than the brees contract? i'm just fumming . i hope its done before i press post. because i'm going to off next time. lol I can sympathize with a lot of what you said above, but it's really not that black and white. I don't think it's a matter of them not willing to pay him what he wants, but mainly how to construct a contract which will fit under the salary cap and still not handcuff the franchise in terms of other players they can bring in. Also, because of the new CBA and the rookie salary grades involved, low 1st round picks are not that expensive anymore - that's why we're seeing so many trade ups in the draft, since the 1st rounders won't brake the bank anymore. They'll get it done in time, but not without compromises from both sides.
	"I'm not bashing people, I'm bashing their opinions because in my opinion their opinion is wrong" - Danno

05-17-2012, 10:49 AM	#17
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	My math skills suck - so I am prepared for one of you brilliant people to correct me here, but this is how I look at... One Million in the bank at 3% = 30 thousand dollars a year Times 16 is 480 thousand dollars a year in interest I'm sure he has financial people that would actually squeeze more than that per year our of 16 million. That's a LOT of money. I get that he wants all he can get piled on to what he already has. I don't begrudge him that...even a little... UNTIL he fails to show up at camp. If that happens I'm going to be an angry young man... but until then I support his efforts to get all he can, down to the last penny. I would do the same thing...but I wouldn't hold out unless I were under paid relative to my peers, and Drew is going to be far from under paid relative to his peers regardless of what contract he ultimately signs. That's my .02 on the subject. Zooey agrees with me. skymike likes this.
	C'mon Man...

05-17-2012, 11:59 AM	#19
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by FinSaint I don't think it's a matter of them not willing to pay him what he wants, but mainly how to construct a contract which will fit under the salary cap and still not handcuff the franchise in terms of other players they can bring in. They'll get it done in time, but not without compromises from both sides. This is exactly what I am thinking, too. And that the holdup is that when both sides say the same thing, "how to construct a contract which will fit under the salary cap and still not handcuff the franchise" I think that's where Condon and Loomis are saying two different sets of numbers and have two different definitions of what that means.

05-17-2012, 03:04 AM	#11
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Brees says he's been comitted throughout to get a deal done.... If that's true why did you reject the last two offers we put on the table, both of which would have made him the highest paid player This is really getting on my nerves, youd think after the offseason we've had brees would be the one supporting us by being there, team friendly....ha

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05-17-2012, 03:45 AM	#12
FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Given Brees' importance to the Saints offense, his role in the New Orleans community, and how experienced his agent Tom Condon is at negotiating quarterback contracts, it's surprising that Brees remains without a deal. Really?! It's surprising that when a turd like Condon is involved that negotiations drag on... really?! I think exactly the opposite, I would've been extremely surprised if the negotiations hadn't dragged on with Condon involved and with all the other issues revolving around this deal and the Saints in general.

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