Saints seeking 3rd arm, Smith to DT?

Danno · 05-31-2012, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

He was never known as a pass rusher in college, and during his rookie year he played more than any other DE yet had 0 sacks... I say 0 because the 1 he got credit for was cam newton running out of the pocket then getting horse collared which was called btw. So that 1 sack he had gave 15 yards and a 1st down away.

But IIRC he had a sack taken away because of a late hit didn't he? And how many times did he play containment, allowing someone else to get his sack?

And to be fair, only two d-linemen had more than 2 sacks the entire year. So perhaps it was scheme a lot more than we think.

blackangold · 06-01-2012, 03:05 PM

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blackangold · 06-01-2012, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

But IIRC he had a sack taken away because of a late hit didn't he? And how many times did he play containment, allowing someone else to get his sack?

And to be fair, only two d-linemen had more than 2 sacks the entire year. So perhaps it was scheme a lot more than we think.

Yes, JR and Smith had 4 and 6.5 sacks respectively but how often was JR on the field? Less than half the time Cam was.

Cam is not a spags DE and to be honest Smith doesn't fit the spags mold.

It is safe to say we had the worst pass rushing front 4 last year. A back up (Mcbride) who only played in 3 games before getting hurt had more sacks then your starting DE; whom took the most snaps as a DE. That doesn't make Cam look good does it?

Danno · 06-01-2012, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

That doesn't make Cam look good does it?

If his job was to stricly rush the passer, then no, but that wasn't his job AND he's a rookie, and he played in a 4 or 5 man DE rotation.

Our front 4 sucked, but it wasn't because of Jordan.

05-31-2012, 06:18 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Originally Posted by blackangold He was never known as a pass rusher in college, and during his rookie year he played more than any other DE yet had 0 sacks... I say 0 because the 1 he got credit for was cam newton running out of the pocket then getting horse collared which was called btw. So that 1 sack he had gave 15 yards and a 1st down away. But IIRC he had a sack taken away because of a late hit didn't he? And how many times did he play containment, allowing someone else to get his sack? And to be fair, only two d-linemen had more than 2 sacks the entire year. So perhaps it was scheme a lot more than we think.

06-01-2012, 03:07 PM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Originally Posted by Danno But IIRC he had a sack taken away because of a late hit didn't he? And how many times did he play containment, allowing someone else to get his sack? And to be fair, only two d-linemen had more than 2 sacks the entire year. So perhaps it was scheme a lot more than we think. Yes, JR and Smith had 4 and 6.5 sacks respectively but how often was JR on the field? Less than half the time Cam was. Cam is not a spags DE and to be honest Smith doesn't fit the spags mold. It is safe to say we had the worst pass rushing front 4 last year. A back up (Mcbride) who only played in 3 games before getting hurt had more sacks then your starting DE; whom took the most snaps as a DE. That doesn't make Cam look good does it?

06-01-2012, 03:42 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Originally Posted by blackangold That doesn't make Cam look good does it? If his job was to stricly rush the passer, then no, but that wasn't his job AND he's a rookie, and he played in a 4 or 5 man DE rotation. Our front 4 sucked, but it wasn't because of Jordan.

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