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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; According to sources, the NFL showed portions of the ledger during meetings with some of those who have been investigated in the scandal. "The players clearly knew what was going each week with the payments," a source told Yahoo! Sports. ...
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Sources: New Orleans Saints kept a 'ledger' detailing weekly earnings in bounty scandal
According to sources, the NFL showed portions of the ledger during meetings with some of those who have been investigated in the scandal.
"The players clearly knew what was going each week with the payments," a source told Yahoo! Sports. In fact, multiple sources admitted that Saints defensive players would regularly encourage teammates to put money earned from the bounty system back into the pool. It's unclear if that was to increase the potential winnings or eventually use the money for some other purpose. Regardless of whether the money was paid out or not, the mere implication of a cash payment for such plays is considered a violation of league rules. NFL Players Association spokesman George Atallah said via text message that the league "made mention" of the ledger in a meeting with the union in April, but that the NFLPA had not seen the ledger yet. As a result, Atallah called into question the use of the ledger as "evidence." "I guess it either qualifies as evidence, which means fair due process was violated because [the] players didn't get to see it before they were punished or it is not hard evidence because they didn't get to see it and cross examine the validity of that piece of evidence," Atallah wrote. This news comes in the aftermath of a declaration Friday by filmmaker Sean Pamphilon that he was encouraged by former New Orleans linebacker Scott Fujita to release an audio recording of former Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, first obtained by Yahoo! Sports, in which Williams exhorts players to hurt members of the San Francisco 49ers in a playoff game last season. Implicit within Pamphilon's 10,000-word description of the circumstances is that players such as Fujita and New Orleans quarterback Drew Brees and the NFL Players Association were attempting to push more of the blame for the bounty scandal onto Williams and the coaching staff. Fujita, who did not immediately return a text seeking comment, is one of four players who has been suspended for his participation in the bounty scandal. The ledger could prove to be extremely damning to the players' cause. Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma has filed a defamation lawsuit against NFL commissioner Roger Goodell in federal court in Louisiana, claiming he never paid nor received money for bounties. Vilma's claim may ultimately be a matter of semantics. Sources: New Orleans Saints kept a 'ledger' detailing weekly earnings in bounty scandal - Yahoo! Sports |
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"sources claim"= "BS"
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OKAY so where is the "ledger?"
Why, if there is SO MUCH EVIDENCE against the Saints, then why does Roger Goodell need to FILE FOR AN EXTENSION OF TIME TO ANSWER HIS CASE? WHY? I WANT TO KNOW. WHERE IS THIS AIR TIGHT CASE GOODELL TALKED ABOUT? SO AIRTIGHT, IN-FACT, THAT HE EXPOUNDED ON IT EARLIER IN THE MEDIA. BUT WHEN THE CHIPS ARE DOWN THEN ROGER GOODELL NEEDS "AN EXTENSION" THIS EVIDENCE SHOULD BE EASY TO PRESENT, IN HARD COLD EVIDENCE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE! Not speculation from "sources" on a YAHOO blog. According to Goodell, the light should be BLAZING AFIRE SO BRIGHT EVEN PEOPLE ON THE MOON SHOULD SEE IT! right??
WE ARE THE MOONINITES AND WE SAW ALL THE BOUNTY OF THE SAINTS DEFENSE. WE HAVE COME TO THE EARTH TO TESTIFY FOR THE GOODELL. ![]() YEAH, TESTIFY..... YEAH THE Goodell!
Even if everything is TRUE, no one who is the head of ANY organisation has the right to go out and re-injure an employee or contractor for a crime they are about to be punished for. GOODELL USED VILMA TO GRANDSTAND AND WILL NOT GET AWAY WITH IT THIS TIME!! |
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Originally Posted by Halo
Halo......we all know why Goodell asked for an extension. So that he could have enough time to "manufacture" some kind of evidence. Anyone in their right mind knows that they would have ponied up with it by now with pressure from the NFLPA & the lawsuits. But.......after months of speculation & posturing for the media.......Goodell has come up with nothing that could even remotely be held up in a court of law. The best they have is an audio of Gregg Williams using metaphors & talking of testing an opposing players injury.
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agreed, no evidence, just making it up
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oH, YOU MEAN THE ONE WITH - hit 'em low and hit 'em hard!![]()
I remember my coach at Joe Brown Park in New Orleans told me to do the same thing - "hit 'em low and hit 'em hard!" LMAO |
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Originally Posted by Halo
I won't tell you the things that J.T. (head coach) and Leon (position coach) Curtis told us to do.![]()
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They would have to bring their source in on a private jet, at night, with a disguise and even that might not be enough to protect them. Who in their right mind would agree to that. Eventually you would be revealed and your life would never be the same.
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I will be glad when it's all over. Hopefully Goddell gets exposed for the crap that he is.
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