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WhoDat!656 06-06-2012 06:54 PM

Vitt: "We think we've got a young Robert Meachem"
 
Saints interim coach Joe Vitt says the team has internally compared second-year WR Joseph Morgan to outgoing deep threat Robert Meachem.

"We think we've got a young Robert Meachem," Vitt said. Morgan, "stashed" on I.R. as a rookie following a minor knee scope, is healthy and making a case for a roster spot after an impressive 2011 summer. Last preseason, Morgan caught a 56-yard touchdown bomb from Chase Daniel and also returned a punt for a touchdown. He's worth monitoring for deep-league purposes.

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gandhi1007 06-06-2012 07:05 PM

"A young Robert Meachem" does not impress me. Hopefully, Morgan & Toon will both be better.

WhoDat!656 06-06-2012 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandhi1007 (Post 410419)
"A young Robert Meachem" does not impress me. Hopefully, Morgan & Toon will both be better.

That is why you are where you are and Vitt is where he is.

Unless Vitt says that Brees is a shorter version of Ryan Leaf, I trust his player evaluations.

|Mitch| 06-06-2012 09:49 PM

I don't know; Meachem shown glimpses of greatness... If Morgan is showing anything relative to those glimpses I'd be happy with it

alleycat_126 06-06-2012 10:31 PM

Morgan was tearing it up last preseason, almost enough for the saints to take Courtney Roby off the team. Seems like to me Morgan, Toon will get spots and Arrington will be the odd man out.......... Again!!!!

gandhi1007 06-07-2012 12:01 AM

How many 1,000 yds seasons did Meachem have? How many double digit TD seasons did Meachem have? How many drops did Meachem have? Case closed. Like I said......I hope both of them are better.

QBREES9 06-07-2012 12:03 AM

Ok, thats good news.

Luda34 06-07-2012 01:04 AM

I can't wait to see what this guy can do

Crusader 06-07-2012 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandhi1007 (Post 410498)
How many 1,000 yds seasons did Meachem have? How many double digit TD seasons did Meachem have? How many drops did Meachem have? Case closed. Like I said......I hope both of them are better.

You should by now that no WR except Colston has 1000yds seasons with the Saints, the offence just isn't built to operate like that.

gandhi1007 06-07-2012 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 410506)
You should by now that no WR except Colston has 1000yds seasons with the Saints, the offence just isn't built to operate like that.

Funny......Lance Moore had seasons of 928 yds w/ 10 TDS, 763 w/ 8 TDS, & 627 w/ 8 TDS. Jimmy Graham, though a TE, is coming off of a 1310 yds/11 TD season. Meachem's best.........722 yds. w/ 9TDS. Hell......Sproles had over 700 yds & 7 TDs receiving last year. And Meachem was a 1st round draft pick!!! Notice.....there was no need to post Colston's stats.

dizzle88 06-07-2012 03:58 AM

The fact that meachem hasn't posted 1000 yard seasons etc still doesn't rule out of the fact he was a good player for us and helped us win a superbowl

If meachem didn't strip that ball and return for a TD, and then catch a 50 yard TD pass to send the game to overtime vs the skins in 09, we wouldn't have got homefield advantage and the path to the Super Bowl would have changed

Meachem may not have been the best in our offense, but if Morgan resembles his play in any way, he will be a good player for us

WhoDat!656 06-07-2012 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandhi1007 (Post 410498)
How many 1,000 yds seasons did Meachem have? How many double digit TD seasons did Meachem have? How many drops did Meachem have? Case closed. Like I said......I hope both of them are better.


Enough said!

SaintGup 06-07-2012 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandhi1007 (Post 410498)
How many 1,000 yds seasons did Meachem have? How many double digit TD seasons did Meachem have? How many drops did Meachem have? Case closed. Like I said......I hope both of them are better.

Being a Saints fan you should know our offensive yardage was spread around so it was more about contributing as a part of a whole. We amassed over 2,000 rushing yards last season but not one of our running backs had over 1,000 yards. I shall miss Meachem as he was a valued member of our team. And pleased don't use the term 'case closed' like no-one else's opinion matters.

SaintGup 06-07-2012 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gandhi1007 (Post 410509)
Funny......Lance Moore had seasons of 928 yds w/ 10 TDS, 763 w/ 8 TDS, & 627 w/ 8 TDS. Jimmy Graham, though a TE, is coming off of a 1310 yds/11 TD season. Meachem's best.........722 yds. w/ 9TDS. Hell......Sproles had over 700 yds & 7 TDs receiving last year. And Meachem was a 1st round draft pick!!! Notice.....there was no need to post Colston's stats.

So should we get rid of Lance Moore? His stats are getting worse so he must be in decline.

Seer1 06-07-2012 08:52 AM

Damned if he didn't make those catches when we REALLY needed'em. The only thing better than one Meachem replacement? TWO DAT BABY!

saintsfan1976 06-07-2012 09:00 AM

One play does not make a season fellas.

Meachem was good, not great. IMO he and Devery are interchangeable and Henderson is cheaper, that's why he's still here.

Besides, Meachem never struck me as the sharpest tool in the shed.

foreverfan 06-07-2012 09:08 AM

I have not problem having an undrafted free agent playing up to a former #1 draft pick's level. Seems like a win there.

pinch 06-07-2012 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandhi1007 (Post 410419)
"A young Robert Meachem" does not impress me. Hopefully, Morgan & Toon will both be better.

That was my thought too. Give me a Meachem in his 3rd year after he finally starts contributing.

Rugby Saint II 06-07-2012 11:33 AM

Meachem was alright.....it just took him longer than we hoped to grow into the spot.

mutineer10 06-07-2012 11:52 AM

"A young Robert Meachem" ... what is he, 27? He's a WR, not a rock star. Odds are he'll be around a few more years.

SaintsBro 06-07-2012 12:08 PM

Wow, tough crowd...In my book there is something kinda wrong with you if you didn't at least like Meachem as a Saint, or have a warm spot in your heart for him...the strip!!! The TD bombs over the middle!!! Come on, football is ENTERTAINMENT, people. Screw the stats, I am still gonna be watching that Redskins clip on Youtube once or twice a year, when I am old and senile and in the nursing home!

WhoDat!656 06-07-2012 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 410545)
One play does not make a season fellas.

Meachem was good, not great. IMO he and Devery are interchangeable and Henderson is cheaper, that's why he's still here.

Besides, Meachem never struck me as the sharpest tool in the shed.

You are partially correct.

Meachem made two, (2), outstanding plays in that game against Washingon in that game; the interception-strip-return for a TD and a TD reception that I believe sent the game into OT.

No one said Meachem was going to make people forget Jerry Rice, but, IMO, Meachem doesn't get the credit he deserves from some Saints fans.

gandhi1007 06-07-2012 07:24 PM

1st off, I wasn't bashing Meachem. He was a Saint!!! He was a decent ball player.....but that's it. He NEVER lived up to his 1st round expectations.....no matter how you want to paint the picture. As someone mentioned before, Devery has been every bit as good. He did make some great plays. He also had some downright pitiful drops. For every....."enough said" video of Meachem making a play, there was one where he wasn't making a play. Bottom line is.....like I said.....I hope that both of the new guys are better than he was.

gandhi1007 06-07-2012 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintGup (Post 410516)
So should we get rid of Lance Moore? His stats are getting worse so he must be in decline.

......and yet his stats are still better than Meachem's.....and he's alot cheaper. Please!

jeanpierre 06-08-2012 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandhi1007 (Post 410419)
"A young Robert Meachem" does not impress me. Hopefully, Morgan & Toon will both be better.

I'm with Gandhi; that quote from Vitt was disturbing...

I remember a Robert Meachem, drafted in the first round out of Tennessee - D'oh - :homer: that was not even in shape!

Hopefully Morgan is better than that...

And there is a reason why Vitt is only where he is and no more...

Crusader 06-08-2012 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 410756)
I'm with Gandhi; that quote from Vitt was disturbing...

I remember a Robert Meachem, drafted in the first round out of Tennessee - D'oh - :homer: that was not even in shape!

Hopefully Morgan is better than that...

And there is a reason why Vitt is only where he is and no more...

I am pretty certain that what Vitt mean was that he reminds him of Meacheam, only younger and if he is anywhere close o the player meachem developed into then I'm a happy camper.

saintsfan1976 06-08-2012 07:14 AM

I don't think we should ever take a first rounder again..

iceshack149 06-08-2012 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 410762)
I don't think we should ever take a first rounder again..

..from Tennessee?

voodooido 06-08-2012 09:22 AM

"722 yds. w/ 9TDS. "

Um, pretty sure thats good for a #3 wr.I would take that from Toon or Morgan as a #4 wr.

TheOak 06-08-2012 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 410545)
One play does not make a season fellas.

Meachem was good, not great. IMO he and Devery are interchangeable and Henderson is cheaper, that's why he's still here.

Besides, Meachem never struck me as the sharpest tool in the shed.

Depends on what that play is.

I dare say Porters interception in SB 44 of manning made a season... he could have been burnt all season like Mike mckenzie and that interception would have made him a favorite in anyone's book.

That being said... Meachem's hands were not always soft, and there is a reason he was known by some as Meat-Chump.

AlaskaSaints 06-08-2012 12:29 PM

I miss the OLD Robert Meachem, sorry.

But I look forward to Joe Morgan making his own reputation.

Alaska

AlaskaSaints 06-08-2012 12:34 PM

Can we see some Henderson stat's, please...

Alaska

The Dude 06-08-2012 02:00 PM

I was never a big fan of Meach. He took forever to learn his routes and would disappear for stretches.

Danno 06-08-2012 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlaskaSaints (Post 410812)
Can we see some Henderson stat's, please...

Alaska

Per season averages (ignoring both players 1st season)...

Henderson -32 catches, 580 yards, 3 TDs
Meachem - 35 catches, 567 yards, 6 TDs
and
Moore - 48 catches, 556 yards, 6 TD's

halloween 65 06-08-2012 03:51 PM

He stretched the field, I liked him.

AllSaints 06-09-2012 01:10 PM

Well I liked meachum n hope he explodes with the chargers

jnormand 06-09-2012 07:39 PM

Vitt was also quoted as saying, "Akiem Hicks is looking like the second coming of Jonathan "Eat Everything In Sight" Sullivan."

Awesome!!!! Wait...what?

QBREES9 06-09-2012 08:29 PM

Question wasn't Meachem young when we had him ?

thebdj 06-10-2012 06:05 AM

I've never understood why people are down on Meachem. When I have watched him play I have always been very impressed. I don't think you can flash the stats of anyone in Brees's receiving corps to make a point. An interesting stat though would be how many times Meachem was targeted against his drops/yards/TDs.

I am pleased to see Morgan getting hyped and Toon as well. I am a bit disappointed for Arrington who has always sat out as that 'guy who could be big' and then never seems to get in. I'm also not sold on Roby any more. But that may be me being disappointed at the fluff at SanFran last year.

alleycat_126 06-10-2012 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandhi1007 (Post 410498)
How many 1,000 yds seasons did Meachem have? How many double digit TD seasons did Meachem have? How many drops did Meachem have? Case closed. Like I said......I hope both of them are better.

The ball is spread way to much for meachem to have ever eclisped the 1000 yrd Td mark, or have ever had double digit TD's

Lance didn't have double digit TD's or 1000 yrd. Neither did Henderson.... As for drops they have all had critical drops and or in colstons case fumbles at a time or two...

While he was here Meacham was a productive saint with flurries of great..... We don't need Nick Toon or Joe Morgan to come in and set the world on fire ( even though I think they make us even more dynamic) just filling in I think is enough for rookie receivers.


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