NFL turns over evidence - a SLIDESHOW of GW quotes

Saints4lyfe · 06-15-2012, 04:46 PM

The evidence the NFL provided to New Orleans Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma on Friday in no way links the player to any "bounty" program, according to his lawyer, Peter Ginsberg.

The league, per rule, had to provide evidence for the basis of its discipline toward four suspended current and former Saints players by Friday since they have appeals hearings before NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell in New York on Monday.

Ginsberg said the majority of the evidence centers around a PowerPoint slideshow of former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams' directives and speeches to players. Ginsberg said there is other evidence besides the slide show, but none of it links Vilma, Will Smith, Scott Fujita or Anthony Hargrove -- all suspended for part or all of the 2012 season by Goodell -- to putting bounties on opposing players.

Jonathan Vilma's lawyer: Evidence shows no 'bounty' link to LB - NFL.com

The Dude · 06-15-2012, 05:02 PM

Think their suspensions will be overturned?

TheOak · 06-15-2012, 05:14 PM

Too soon to tell...

Let it play out.

WhoDat!656 · 06-15-2012, 05:23 PM

I know Payton et al have issued 'apologized' for this, but IF, (I know that is a mighty big if; that is why I capitalized it!), the player suspensions are over-turned, could Payton and others, appeal their suspensions on the grounds that if their isn't enough evidence to suspend the players, how could the coaches be suspended for the same thing?

The Dude · 06-15-2012, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

I know Payton et al have issued 'apologized' for this, but IF, (I know that is a mighty big if; that is why I capitalized it!), the player suspensions are over-turned, could Payton and others, appeal their suspensions on the grounds that if their isn't enough evidence to suspend the players, how could the coaches be suspended for the same thing?

Doubt is because the Payton was supposed to be Williams superior therefor responsible for his actions, even if he did act alone. The players were his inferiors but if they prove the players did not participate the players have a more likely chance of being let off the hook.

RockyMountainSaint · 06-15-2012, 05:34 PM

NFL makes less than 200 pages available in bounty case | ProFootballTalk

From OVER 50,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

to fewer than 200?

The Dude · 06-15-2012, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

NFL makes less than 200 pages available in bounty case | ProFootballTalk

From OVER 50,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

to 200?

I always thought 50k pages was over the top. Hell how in the world do you get 50000 pages of anything? You could write down every word Willams said throughout the whole season and not fill up 50000pages

TheOak · 06-15-2012, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I always thought 50k pages was over the top. Hell how in the world do you get 50000 pages of anything? You could write down every word Willams said throughout the whole season and not fill up 50000pages

Double Space
72 pt font
5x7 cards single sided
glossery
table of contents
a picture of Goodell between each page
...... that would be a good start

Hell! I can make a powerpoint that proves Goodell was the head cheese behind the bounty program.

Really NFL... A Power Point?

SmashMouth · 06-15-2012, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

Double Space
72 pt font
5x7 cards single sided
glossery
table of contents
a picture of Goodell between each page
...... that would be a good start

Hell! I can make a powerpoint that proves Goodell was the head cheese behind the bounty program.

Really NFL... A Power Point?

Roger Goodell should apologize and abdicate immediately. And he'll owe millions to Vilma!

papz · 06-15-2012, 07:00 PM

I just want Payton back. Anything else would just be spinkles on my cupcake.

06-15-2012, 04:46 PM	#1
Saints4lyfe Falcons SUCK Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 85	NFL turns over evidence - a SLIDESHOW of GW quotes The evidence the NFL provided to New Orleans Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma on Friday in no way links the player to any "bounty" program, according to his lawyer, Peter Ginsberg. The league, per rule, had to provide evidence for the basis of its discipline toward four suspended current and former Saints players by Friday since they have appeals hearings before NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell in New York on Monday. Ginsberg said the majority of the evidence centers around a PowerPoint slideshow of former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams' directives and speeches to players. Ginsberg said there is other evidence besides the slide show, but none of it links Vilma, Will Smith, Scott Fujita or Anthony Hargrove -- all suspended for part or all of the 2012 season by Goodell -- to putting bounties on opposing players. Jonathan Vilma's lawyer: Evidence shows no 'bounty' link to LB - NFL.com
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Think their suspensions will be overturned?
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 I know Payton et al have issued 'apologized' for this, but IF, (I know that is a mighty big if; that is why I capitalized it!), the player suspensions are over-turned, could Payton and others, appeal their suspensions on the grounds that if their isn't enough evidence to suspend the players, how could the coaches be suspended for the same thing? Doubt is because the Payton was supposed to be Williams superior therefor responsible for his actions, even if he did act alone. The players were his inferiors but if they prove the players did not participate the players have a more likely chance of being let off the hook.
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RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	NFL makes less than 200 pages available in bounty case \| ProFootballTalk From OVER 50,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to fewer than 200? saintfan, papz, SmashMouth and 1 others like this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint NFL makes less than 200 pages available in bounty case \| ProFootballTalk From OVER 50,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to 200? I always thought 50k pages was over the top. Hell how in the world do you get 50000 pages of anything? You could write down every word Willams said throughout the whole season and not fill up 50000pages
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Originally Posted by The Dude I always thought 50k pages was over the top. Hell how in the world do you get 50000 pages of anything? You could write down every word Willams said throughout the whole season and not fill up 50000pages Double Space 72 pt font 5x7 cards single sided glossery table of contents a picture of Goodell between each page ...... that would be a good start Hell! I can make a powerpoint that proves Goodell was the head cheese behind the bounty program. Really NFL... A Power Point? saintfan, RockyMountainSaint, mutineer10 and 5 others like this.
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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Originally Posted by x626xBlack Double Space 72 pt font 5x7 cards single sided glossery table of contents a picture of Goodell between each page ...... that would be a good start Hell! I can make a powerpoint that proves Goodell was the head cheese behind the bounty program. Really NFL... A Power Point? Roger Goodell should apologize and abdicate immediately. And he'll owe millions to Vilma! saintfan and RockyMountainSaint like this.

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