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Mike Triplett bites back!

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So does that mean the NFL kept all its “damning evidence” to itself? Or does that mean the NFL doesn’t have much damning evidence? Either way, it’s a disturbing sign that the league apparently feels like it doesn’t have to prove its case or justify its decisions to anybody.

Even more disturbing – and awfully ironic – is that part of the evidence the NFL did share with players was a column I wrote last week after talking with linebacker Scott Shanle. For one thing, that article was written well after the league handed out its punishments, so it shouldn’t have had any bearing on the punishments handed out by the league (the same goes for a recent essay written by filmmaker Sean Pamphilon that the NFL included Friday).

For another thing, Shanle didn’t confirm the existence of any bounty program, any specific bounties or any intent to injure opponents. And in that column, I stressed that the NFL needs to be more forthcoming with its evidence on the Saints because, “it sure does seem like the NFL has painted their actions to be much worse than they really were. And if that’s not true, then the NFL should do a better job of proving its point.”

Shanle was open about the fact that the Saints had a pay-for-performance program in place, which is illegal. He also confirmed that big, legal hits were rewarded as part of that program, including ones that led to opponents’ injuries. And he confirmed that sometimes those types of hits were referred to as cart-offs and knockouts, “in Gregg’s language,” referring to fiery former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.

However, Shanle stressed that players didn’t take Williams’ words literally, and he insisted that the NFL’s claims have been blown way out of proportion. I wholeheartedly agree.

Also ironic is that later in that Shanle article, I stressed that we can’t just take the NFL’s word on these allegations because we already caught them lying about the details of Hargrove’s signed declaration to the league earlier this year.

So now, apparently, the NFL is asking both the players and the public to just take their word for it again. And clearly that is not being received well.

Boo-yaa!!!

The more and more we learn about this, the more I'm convinced that(a) the blame for this belongs on the head of potty-mouthed psychopathic coach Gregg Williams, and stuff that happened got blown out of proportion by people who weren't even there in the room and (b) the punishments on Payton, Loomis, Vitt and Fujita had a lot more to do with personal grudges that Goodell had against them, for either who they were, who their friends were (Payton/Ornstein for example), or for what they represented as a threat to making Goodell look bad.

Goodell-gate!!! What a crock of ****.

You tell 'em Mike!:smile:

goodell trying to pull an Obama.

The players should ABSOLUTELY go on strike and DEMAND that this man step down. How can he talk about integrity and honesty and all that crap and be SO dishonest as to all but end Vilma's career and taint the images of otherwise good people who, if guilty of anything, are guilty of nothing that hasn't been going on in the NFL for decades.

STRIKE! I BEG YOU NFLPA...STRIKE!

IMO, the Saints brought this mess on themselves.

When the league told them they were being investigated for 'bountys', the Saints knew they weren't doing anything that the other 31 teams weren't doing and they continued with business as usual.

Unfortunately for the Saints, the league saw the approaching firestorm of lawsuits over concussions coming, and the Saints, unknowingly, were supplying the league with the pieces of the puzzle to put the fire out.

The league took the '...pay me comments', after Favre went to the sidelines after being sacked, the Vilma $10K bounty, the GW speech before the 40-whiners game, and others I am forgetting and built a case against the Saints. The leagues case is 100% circumstantial, but that won't stop Goodell.

Having Goodell as judge, jury and executioner, the Saints are playing a game they can't win, at least in court!

Do you know the difference between a liar and a lawyer?

Pronunciation!

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 412557)

Are they striking yet?

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 412442)

Even more disturbing – and awfully ironic – is that part of the evidence the NFL did share with players was a column I wrote last week after talking with linebacker Scott Shanle.

LOL!