Saints won’t discuss an extension with Jimmy Graham this offseason

Danno · 06-17-2012, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Not exactly true; Brees didn't want his contract negotiations to interfere with the Saints playoff run, so he had them shelved until the off-season.

How is that not exactly? We wanted to, he didn't. It doesn't matter what the reason is, he refused.

RockyMountainSaint · 06-17-2012, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

Nor should they be worried about that at this time. Let the guy play out the rest of his contract (or at least get closer to the end) and see where we stand at that point. Also, Jimmy Graham's stock is at an all-time high... if he doesn't have as good of a season in 2012, the Saints have more negotiating leverage (not much, but some).

Not a criticism, but when exactly did we stop wanting our players to play as well as possible without salary and business considerations.

I often do this. I find myself explaining these things to my son when he asks. I try to catch myself and just let him enjoy his team.

I am just lamenting the loss of my innocence as a fan.

mutineer10 · 06-18-2012, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

Not a criticism, but when exactly did we stop wanting our players to play as well as possible without salary and business considerations.

I often do this. I find myself explaining these things to my son when he asks. I try to catch myself and just let him enjoy his team.

I am just lamenting the loss of my innocence as a fan.

I think we could all use a step back from time to time to remember why we became big fans in the first place. I know I could ...

TheOak · 06-18-2012, 09:07 AM

I think there should be verbiage in the CBA stating eloquently "play out your frikken contract". After all, what is the point of all this damned contract negotiation when money hungry players sit out for a period when they are in year 2 of a 4-5 year contract?

It makes the salary cap somewhat of a night mare to deal with. I know restructuring has its benefits, but com'on man! If a player is not preforming up to his contract the team should have two options... Shut up or cut him.

Also... you want to sit out? Sit out the entire season... With out pay. Stop fking with the fans!

Its time some of these players grow up and live with the decisions they have made. Also, all of this bonus for 'showing up for practice' needs to go. You want to play football in the NFL, go to damned practice, you want a bonus, do something worthy other than showing up..

I am having a bad morning .. LOL

06-17-2012, 06:27 PM	#11
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Not exactly true; Brees didn't want his contract negotiations to interfere with the Saints playoff run, so he had them shelved until the off-season. How is that not exactly? We wanted to, he didn't. It doesn't matter what the reason is, he refused.

06-17-2012, 07:00 PM	#12
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Originally Posted by TheDeuce Nor should they be worried about that at this time. Let the guy play out the rest of his contract (or at least get closer to the end) and see where we stand at that point. Also, Jimmy Graham's stock is at an all-time high... if he doesn't have as good of a season in 2012, the Saints have more negotiating leverage (not much, but some). Not a criticism, but when exactly did we stop wanting our players to play as well as possible without salary and business considerations. I often do this. I find myself explaining these things to my son when he asks. I try to catch myself and just let him enjoy his team. I am just lamenting the loss of my innocence as a fan. mutineer10 likes this.

06-18-2012, 08:29 AM	#13
mutineer10 Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,739	Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint Not a criticism, but when exactly did we stop wanting our players to play as well as possible without salary and business considerations. I often do this. I find myself explaining these things to my son when he asks. I try to catch myself and just let him enjoy his team. I am just lamenting the loss of my innocence as a fan. I think we could all use a step back from time to time to remember why we became big fans in the first place. I know I could ...

06-18-2012, 09:07 AM	#14
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	I think there should be verbiage in the CBA stating eloquently "play out your frikken contract". After all, what is the point of all this damned contract negotiation when money hungry players sit out for a period when they are in year 2 of a 4-5 year contract? It makes the salary cap somewhat of a night mare to deal with. I know restructuring has its benefits, but com'on man! If a player is not preforming up to his contract the team should have two options... Shut up or cut him. Also... you want to sit out? Sit out the entire season... With out pay. Stop fking with the fans! Its time some of these players grow up and live with the decisions they have made. Also, all of this bonus for 'showing up for practice' needs to go. You want to play football in the NFL, go to damned practice, you want a bonus, do something worthy other than showing up.. I am having a bad morning .. LOL
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