NFLPA Wants NFL to Reopen Investigation

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NFL Players Association Executive Director DeMaurice Smith sent a letter to Commissioner Roger Goodell on Friday asking that the league's investigation into the New Orleans Saints' "bounty" program be "redone thoroughly and transparently" because of an abundance of concerns regarding the information collected and how it was interpreted.

That letter was obtained by ProFootballTalk.com.

Smith also stated that "the people who presented the information from the NFL's investigation to you egregiously failed you because they did not present a full and complete account of the entirety of the testimony and information they received."

The NFL did not specifically respond to Smith's letter when asked, but referred to comments made by lead counsel Jeff Pash during an interview with ProFootballTalk.com's Mike Florio. Of note, Pash said the league would listen to Smith's concerns and that "we listen to what he has to say and what his thinking is with great respect."

NFLPA asks Roger Goodell to redo Saints 'bounty' probe - NFL.com

dizzle88 · 06-22-2012, 04:50 PM

Doesn't this just give roger goodell another chance to suspend even more of our players?

Giving more power to somebody whos already throwing it around to much, hes just going to find more made up reasons to destroy our team and make sure we don't have a fair chance

SmashMouth · 06-22-2012, 05:43 PM

My thoughts exactly... Let RG feel the heat!

vpheughan · 06-24-2012, 01:24 PM

What I want to know is why the NFL is "leaking" the information if they have "evidence" as they claim? This is all being played out in the court of public opinion. Wrong, Wrong, Wrong!

Put Up or SHUT UP!! NFL!!!

foreverfan · 06-24-2012, 01:55 PM

CheramieIII · 06-25-2012, 02:58 PM

I don't think it would involve a do-over on sentencing for the NFL because they already had a chance to punish everyone that they knew about but that we didn't or what everyone else said. I think this is more of a subjective interpretation of the evidence in the NFLPA's mind and all Saints fans for sure!

TheOak · 06-25-2012, 03:40 PM

I do not see how a "do over" would change anything... The league is not going to just throw away what they have, the NFLPA was asked to be part of the investigation already and they "chose" to do their own thing. This is more of a tactic to try and see everything which the NFL has already told them no on.

Smith: This is where you messed up yet again.
"Smith and the NFLPA were invited to be a part of the NFL's investigation, according to a league source, but the union declined and conducted its own investigation."

This is Smith trying to keep the fire stoked. He has based his statements on "assumptions". Of course the testimony the NFL received was complete, and of curse they hand picked what they wanted to release.

Smith mishandled this from the start when he told the players to not go to NY and talk to the league... That was a show of "non-cooperation".

saintfan · 06-25-2012, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

I do not see how a "do over" would change anything... The league is not going to just throw away what they have, the NFLPA was asked to be part of the investigation already and they "chose" to do their own thing. This is more of a tactic to try and see everything which the NFL has already told them no on.

Smith: This is where you messed up yet again.
"Smith and the NFLPA were invited to be a part of the NFL's investigation, according to a league source, but the union declined and conducted its own investigation."

This is Smith trying to keep the fire stoked. He has based his statements on "assumptions". Of course the testimony the NFL received was complete, and of curse they hand picked what they wanted to release.

Smith mishandled this from the start when he told the players to not go to NY and talk to the league... That was a show of "non-cooperation".

But at what point was the Union invited? 3 years ago? 6 months ago? Three months ago? If Roger already has his evidence he'd already put his spin on it and so what would the Union have to gain?

I wouldn't talk either until I knew what, PRECISELY, I was being accused of. I think any lawyer worth his salt would agree. Am I crazy?

AsylumGuido · 06-25-2012, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

But at what point was the Union invited? 3 years ago? 6 months ago? Three months ago? If Roger already has his evidence he'd already put his spin on it and so what would the Union have to gain?

I wouldn't talk either until I knew what, PRECISELY, I was being accused of. I think any lawyer worth his salt would agree. Am I crazy?

Um. No.

Rugby Saint II · 06-25-2012, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Um. No.

Quote-Unquote!!!

06-22-2012, 04:25 PM	#1
Threaded by saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5 Rating: (0 votes - average) NFL Players Association Executive Director DeMaurice Smith sent a letter to Commissioner Roger Goodell on Friday asking that the league's investigation into the New Orleans Saints' "bounty" program be "redone thoroughly and transparently" because of an abundance of concerns regarding the information collected and how it was interpreted. That letter was obtained by ProFootballTalk.com. Smith also stated that "the people who presented the information from the NFL's investigation to you egregiously failed you because they did not present a full and complete account of the entirety of the testimony and information they received." The NFL did not specifically respond to Smith's letter when asked, but referred to comments made by lead counsel Jeff Pash during an interview with ProFootballTalk.com's Mike Florio. Of note, Pash said the league would listen to Smith's concerns and that "we listen to what he has to say and what his thinking is with great respect." NFLPA asks Roger Goodell to redo Saints 'bounty' probe - NFL.com Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Halo; 06-22-2012 at 07:01 PM..
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06-24-2012, 01:24 PM	#4
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,515	What I want to know is why the NFL is "leaking" the information if they have "evidence" as they claim? This is all being played out in the court of public opinion. Wrong, Wrong, Wrong! Put Up or SHUT UP!! NFL!!!
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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,019	I do not see how a "do over" would change anything... The league is not going to just throw away what they have, the NFLPA was asked to be part of the investigation already and they "chose" to do their own thing. This is more of a tactic to try and see everything which the NFL has already told them no on. Smith: This is where you messed up yet again. "Smith and the NFLPA were invited to be a part of the NFL's investigation, according to a league source, but the union declined and conducted its own investigation." This is Smith trying to keep the fire stoked. He has based his statements on "assumptions". Of course the testimony the NFL received was complete, and of curse they hand picked what they wanted to release. Smith mishandled this from the start when he told the players to not go to NY and talk to the league... That was a show of "non-cooperation".
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06-25-2012, 05:06 PM	#8
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Originally Posted by x626xBlack I do not see how a "do over" would change anything... The league is not going to just throw away what they have, the NFLPA was asked to be part of the investigation already and they "chose" to do their own thing. This is more of a tactic to try and see everything which the NFL has already told them no on. Smith: This is where you messed up yet again. "Smith and the NFLPA were invited to be a part of the NFL's investigation, according to a league source, but the union declined and conducted its own investigation." This is Smith trying to keep the fire stoked. He has based his statements on "assumptions". Of course the testimony the NFL received was complete, and of curse they hand picked what they wanted to release. Smith mishandled this from the start when he told the players to not go to NY and talk to the league... That was a show of "non-cooperation". But at what point was the Union invited? 3 years ago? 6 months ago? Three months ago? If Roger already has his evidence he'd already put his spin on it and so what would the Union have to gain? I wouldn't talk either until I knew what, PRECISELY, I was being accused of. I think any lawyer worth his salt would agree. Am I crazy?

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06-22-2012, 04:50 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,118	Doesn't this just give roger goodell another chance to suspend even more of our players? Giving more power to somebody whos already throwing it around to much, hes just going to find more made up reasons to destroy our team and make sure we don't have a fair chance

06-22-2012, 05:43 PM	#3
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29	My thoughts exactly... Let RG feel the heat!

06-25-2012, 02:58 PM	#6
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,480 Blog Entries: 3	I don't think it would involve a do-over on sentencing for the NFL because they already had a chance to punish everyone that they knew about but that we didn't or what everyone else said. I think this is more of a subjective interpretation of the evidence in the NFLPA's mind and all Saints fans for sure!

06-25-2012, 06:59 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,046	Originally Posted by saintfan But at what point was the Union invited? 3 years ago? 6 months ago? Three months ago? If Roger already has his evidence he'd already put his spin on it and so what would the Union have to gain? I wouldn't talk either until I knew what, PRECISELY, I was being accused of. I think any lawyer worth his salt would agree. Am I crazy? Um. No. Rugby Saint II likes this.

06-25-2012, 07:50 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Um. No. Quote-Unquote!!!

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