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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Reggie gained mind boggling yardage, he must of had 1800+ yards each season. Horizontally....

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Old 07-18-2012, 04:40 AM   #1
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Reggie gained mind boggling yardage, he must of had 1800+ yards each season.

Horizontally.
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Old 07-18-2012, 06:27 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by x626xBlack View Post

Horizontally.
And in reverse.
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Old 07-18-2012, 06:36 AM   #3
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And in reverse.
no, it's perimeter running!
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Old 07-18-2012, 06:41 AM   #4
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Bush was the king of the perimeters.......he knew where the sideline was and always made sure he headed straight for it, always 1 yard shy of a first down

Sproles is a beast, reggie can't touch him
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And in reverse.
He learned from Aaron Brooks. Yeah, I just went there.
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highlight of the article;

"Bush, in particular, is an outstanding perimeter runner"

Sproles is a god and should not be compared to lesser mortals.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:06 AM   #7
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It's kinda' funny, both guys had probably their best seasons last year after moving on from the team that originally drafted them, so a change of scenery definitely benefited both players.

Bush, to me, was always potential unrealized and a poor-man's Barry Sanders in New Orleans ... he covered a lot of ground sideline-to-sideline like Barry, but without the forward progress or the touchdowns ... he only started half the time due to injury also, eh? I used to hear more about him dating a Kardashian then his game.

Sproles may not have Reggie's numbers or pizzazz, but his first year numbers in NO compare to Bush's production and he's more of what I want a RB to be.

Advantage: New Orleans/Darren Sproles.
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Old 07-18-2012, 07:18 AM   #8
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It's kinda' funny, both guys had probably their best seasons last year after moving on from the team that originally drafted them, so a change of scenery definitely benefited both players.

Bush, to me, was always potential unrealized and a poor-man's Barry Sanders in New Orleans ... he covered a lot of ground sideline-to-sideline like Barry, but without the forward progress or the touchdowns ... he only started half the time due to injury also, eh? I used to hear more about him dating a Kardashian then his game.

Sproles may not have Reggie's numbers or pizzazz, but his first year numbers in NO compare to Bush's production and he's more of what I want a RB to be.

Advantage: New Orleans/Darren Sproles.
Sproles performed at a high level in SD too. Reggie didn't begin to do much of anything while he was here except stay injured. I would love to see these numbers you speak of that Bush has. He may have had the chance to have great numbers if he had been on the field, but he couldn't stay on the field and to me that trumps everything else. Durability is as important as athleticism and skill, and that is where Sproles has Bush beat hands down.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:20 AM   #9
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Sproles performed at a high level in SD too. Reggie didn't begin to do much of anything while he was here except stay injured. I would love to see these numbers you speak of that Bush has. He may have had the chance to have great numbers if he had been on the field, but he couldn't stay on the field and to me that trumps everything else. Durability is as important as athleticism and skill, and that is where Sproles has Bush beat hands down.
Reggie Bush NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

Darren Sproles NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

Durability ... that's where we agree and it's a big part of what I meant when I said Sproles is more of what I want from a running back and why I gave the advantage to New Orleans/Sproles ... 3-4 ypc, first downs/touchdowns when you need 'em, good hands out-of-the-backfield, good pass protection as needed and durability, that's all I ask and dream for ... you got to remember, I follow a club that insanely keeps parading Kevin Smith out as a starting NFL running back, knowingly drafted a RB with a severe history of concussions and drafted another RB who immediately tore an Achilles and has an alcohol/drug problem ... <sigh> ... no, I understand the importance of durability ... I live and die RB durability, .

In terms of Bush's numbers, I was referring more to his first two or three seasons with the Saints, and more specifically, last season with Miami ... he had 1,000 rush/pass yds in those seasons (or close to it) ... last year in Miami he had over 1,000yds rushing, something Sproles has never done. Also, Bush's numbers with the Saints beat Sproles' numbers with the Chargers pretty much across the board and in every category ... but, I am not so naive to think this necessarily makes Bush the better back and that there aren't other factors to consider.

Sproles may not necessarily be the better RB, but he is a better fit for New Orleans then Bush and if you compare his first season numbers in New Orleans to Bush's five seasons with the Saints, they compare favorably, and as you pointed out, his durability puts him over the top. This is what the Saints need, a reliable/durable running game to compliment the passing game, not overshadow it. Sproles provides that, Bush didn't. Bush, however, did show in Miami that when he gets the carries, he'll get the yardage ... it's just debatable whether he'll be able to do it for any length of time.

When I saw both backs had arguably their career best career seasons upon changing teams, it makes me think perhaps they didn't necessarily fit their teams' offensive scheme more then one is necessarily better then the other, though Bush's stats certainly are better then Sproles' ... but, Sproles is certainly the better RB for New Orleans, .
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:40 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by xan View Post
Sproles didn't have Reggie's numbers? Is this guy misreading the statistics because crack coated pubic hair are covering his eyes?

Why was this even published? Are people that desperate?
Really guy? 'crack coated pubic hair covering his eyes', I expect that kind of garbage on a Detroit board or an Atlanta board, but not on B&G. You disappoint me ... the stats I'm reading are posted in my reply to 'the Dude' ... feel free to analyze them yourself.

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Rushing average
Reggie - 4.3 per carry
Sproles -5.2 per carry

Receiving Average
Reggie - 7.2 per rec
Sproles -9.1 per rec

Punt Return Average
Reggie - 7.9 per return
Sproles -8.6 per return

Why is this even a debate?
Rushing average ... number of carries figures into this, Bush consistenly had more carries per season and thus his APC will be lower ... you conveniently left out # of touchdowns also.

Receiving average ... again, you're not looking at number of receptions, if I catch 1 pass for 70yds and you catch 3 passes of 75yds, 20yds and 10yds, who has the better receiving average? Where's the YPG stat on both these guys?

Punt Return average ... touche', I guess ... apples & oranges, don't care about punt returns, I'm focusing on the run game.

Why is it a debate? ... probably because it's the offseason, bountygate is winding down & Drew has signed ... it's really not, in every post I chose Sproles over Bush, IDK why it's being perceived I'm backing Reggie Bush so much ... the mere fact he dated Kim Kardashian and I was subjected to seeing the camera pan over to her during a few games is enough to nauseate me & turn me against Reggie forever ... I was just pointing out that both backs experienced the best seasons of their career after leaving their respective teams and the change of scenery obviously did them some good ... it's one of those intangibles I like to focus on and whereas Bush may statistically be the better back, he's not the best back for New Orleans ... Sproles is, but that's not to say Bush isn't productive somewhere else, because he is ... in Miami.

Advantage: still New Orleans/Sproles.

Now get off me.
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