NFL in settlement talks with suspended players!!!!!!!!!!

Halo · 08-06-2012, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by D_it_up

Like Admiral Ackbar said in "Return of the Jedi", it's a trap!

sharke · 08-06-2012, 05:26 AM

But why would the NFL settle? Their case is clearly air tight w/o any room for doubt....unless Goodell was wrong but...nah, that could never happen......

Originally Posted by D_it_up

Like Admiral Ackbar said in "Return of the Jedi", it's a trap!

liked just for the reference....seriously though, we need more Original Trilogy in our lives....

Originally Posted by Halo

Haters gonna hate simply because they don't have this kind of leadership on their team and in their locker-room.

c'mon man, leave the Jets out of this

TheOak · 08-06-2012, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by sharke

But why would the NFL settle? Their case is clearly air tight w/o any room for doubt....unless Goodell was wrong but...nah, that could never happen......

I am not a truster of twitter lol..

However you asked a good question so here is my take. The NFL wants this to go away.. ASAP. I believe the NFL also has a feeling that on Friday the judge will grant a stay of execution allowing the players to play until there is a legal outcome... This would ensure that this drags on, It would also be perceived that the NFL took a loss of yardage on that ruling, and that Goodell didnt act correctly... We know this but a judge letting those guys play would make that official.

They have already publicly admitted that they were wrong on Hargrove.

As far as for the coaches... Well that is going to depend on how hard Vilma and Ginsburg want to push in the negotiations. The coaches are not included in this suit and they have all publicly (except for Vitt) admitted and apologized...

This will test the strength of both sides cases and testicular fortitude.

sharke · 08-06-2012, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

However you asked a good question so here is my take. The NFL wants this to go away.. ASAP. I believe the NFL also has a feeling that on Friday the judge will grant a stay of execution allowing the players to play until there is a legal outcome... This would ensure that this drags on, It would also be perceived that the NFL took a loss of yardage on that ruling, and that Goodell didnt act correctly... We know this but a judge letting those guys play would make that official.

I agree, though also wonder if this would have further implication eventually leading to violations of CBA. If a federal court rules against goodell and the league for how the case was handled then it would violate the office and trust placed in their hands as acting disciplinarian which was granted by the players in last year's decision. Once this violation is found then it opens the proverbial floodgates to other investigations regarding discipline or whatever. Which aside from dragging on forever, would completely f*ck the league over. Making the urge to settle quickly and lose little ground (opposed to massive) tempting.

sidenote, I also like how goodell keeps hiding behind the league and shield now in HIS civil case.

TheOak · 08-06-2012, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by sharke

I agree, though also wonder if this would have further implication eventually leading to violations of CBA. If a federal court rules against goodell and the league for how the case was handled then it would violate the office and trust placed in their hands as acting disciplinarian which was granted by the players in last year's decision. Once this violation is found then it opens the proverbial floodgates to other investigations regarding discipline or whatever. Which aside from dragging on forever, would completely f*ck the league over. Making the urge to settle quickly and lose little ground (opposed to massive) tempting.

sidenote, I also like how goodell keeps hiding behind the league and shield now in HIS civil case.

Truth...Justice...American way.... all that glory and fun stuff.

As mush as I enjoyed seeing men in pads and helmets playing football once again.. I do not want the following to happen:

Judge rules that CBA has been violated, needs to be rewritten, season is cancelled until a new CBA is in place.

Sorry Vilma.. My need for sanity overrides your career.

D_it_up · 08-06-2012, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by sharke

liked just for the reference....seriously though, we need more Original Trilogy in our lives....

Yeah, I'm a fan boy of the trilogy. I try to make it a point to make a reference once a day.

QBREES9 · 08-06-2012, 12:13 AM

The talks could also lead to reductions in the suspensions of the other three players -- Saints defensive end Will Smith (four games), Packers defensive tackle Anthony Hargrove (eight games), and Browns linebacker Scott Fujita (three games).

Settlement talks are expected to continue Monday and sources say that Friday's next scheduled appearance before U.S. District Court Judge Ginger Berrigan could serve as a soft deadline to reach a settlement. The two sides filed more arguments in the Louisiana court this past Friday in advance of this week's hearing.

I guess they saw the evidence. Their wasn't any !

SaintsBro · 08-06-2012, 12:15 AM

Remember that the judge explicitly told the NFL lawyers that their argument had problems, that Goodell "sliced the salami too thin," and she also told Vilma's attorneys a few minutes earlier, that he may be right but she may not have a remedy. I think she was basically TELLING them to work it out amongst themselves and settle. Judges do this all the time.

SmashMouth · 08-06-2012, 12:15 AM

If even remotely true, this should open the doors for SP's speedier return!

QBREES9 · 08-06-2012, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

If even remotely true, this should open the doors for SP's speedier return!

Thats a good point. How about Loomis and Vitt too.

08-06-2012, 12:23 AM	#1
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,895 Blog Entries: 45	Originally Posted by D_it_up Like Admiral Ackbar said in "Return of the Jedi", it's a trap! sharke likes this.

08-06-2012, 05:26 AM	#2
sharke evil decepticon Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: St. Augustine, FL Posts: 583	But why would the NFL settle? Their case is clearly air tight w/o any room for doubt....unless Goodell was wrong but...nah, that could never happen...... Originally Posted by D_it_up Like Admiral Ackbar said in "Return of the Jedi", it's a trap! liked just for the reference....seriously though, we need more Original Trilogy in our lives.... Originally Posted by Halo Haters gonna hate simply because they don't have this kind of leadership on their team and in their locker-room. c'mon man, leave the Jets out of this

08-06-2012, 06:42 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Originally Posted by sharke But why would the NFL settle? Their case is clearly air tight w/o any room for doubt....unless Goodell was wrong but...nah, that could never happen...... I am not a truster of twitter lol.. However you asked a good question so here is my take. The NFL wants this to go away.. ASAP. I believe the NFL also has a feeling that on Friday the judge will grant a stay of execution allowing the players to play until there is a legal outcome... This would ensure that this drags on, It would also be perceived that the NFL took a loss of yardage on that ruling, and that Goodell didnt act correctly... We know this but a judge letting those guys play would make that official. They have already publicly admitted that they were wrong on Hargrove. As far as for the coaches... Well that is going to depend on how hard Vilma and Ginsburg want to push in the negotiations. The coaches are not included in this suit and they have all publicly (except for Vitt) admitted and apologized... This will test the strength of both sides cases and testicular fortitude.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

08-06-2012, 07:59 AM	#4
sharke evil decepticon Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: St. Augustine, FL Posts: 583	Originally Posted by x626xBlack However you asked a good question so here is my take. The NFL wants this to go away.. ASAP. I believe the NFL also has a feeling that on Friday the judge will grant a stay of execution allowing the players to play until there is a legal outcome... This would ensure that this drags on, It would also be perceived that the NFL took a loss of yardage on that ruling, and that Goodell didnt act correctly... We know this but a judge letting those guys play would make that official. I agree, though also wonder if this would have further implication eventually leading to violations of CBA. If a federal court rules against goodell and the league for how the case was handled then it would violate the office and trust placed in their hands as acting disciplinarian which was granted by the players in last year's decision. Once this violation is found then it opens the proverbial floodgates to other investigations regarding discipline or whatever. Which aside from dragging on forever, would completely f*ck the league over. Making the urge to settle quickly and lose little ground (opposed to massive) tempting. sidenote, I also like how goodell keeps hiding behind the league and shield now in HIS civil case. SaintsBro likes this.

08-06-2012, 08:17 AM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Originally Posted by sharke I agree, though also wonder if this would have further implication eventually leading to violations of CBA. If a federal court rules against goodell and the league for how the case was handled then it would violate the office and trust placed in their hands as acting disciplinarian which was granted by the players in last year's decision. Once this violation is found then it opens the proverbial floodgates to other investigations regarding discipline or whatever. Which aside from dragging on forever, would completely f*ck the league over. Making the urge to settle quickly and lose little ground (opposed to massive) tempting. sidenote, I also like how goodell keeps hiding behind the league and shield now in HIS civil case. Truth...Justice...American way.... all that glory and fun stuff. As mush as I enjoyed seeing men in pads and helmets playing football once again.. I do not want the following to happen: Judge rules that CBA has been violated, needs to be rewritten, season is cancelled until a new CBA is in place. Sorry Vilma.. My need for sanity overrides your career.

08-06-2012, 06:47 AM	#6
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Originally Posted by sharke liked just for the reference....seriously though, we need more Original Trilogy in our lives.... Yeah, I'm a fan boy of the trilogy. I try to make it a point to make a reference once a day. sharke likes this.

08-06-2012, 12:13 AM	#7
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	The talks could also lead to reductions in the suspensions of the other three players -- Saints defensive end Will Smith (four games), Packers defensive tackle Anthony Hargrove (eight games), and Browns linebacker Scott Fujita (three games). Settlement talks are expected to continue Monday and sources say that Friday's next scheduled appearance before U.S. District Court Judge Ginger Berrigan could serve as a soft deadline to reach a settlement. The two sides filed more arguments in the Louisiana court this past Friday in advance of this week's hearing. I guess they saw the evidence. Their wasn't any !
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08-06-2012, 12:15 AM	#8
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Remember that the judge explicitly told the NFL lawyers that their argument had problems, that Goodell "sliced the salami too thin," and she also told Vilma's attorneys a few minutes earlier, that he may be right but she may not have a remedy. I think she was basically TELLING them to work it out amongst themselves and settle. Judges do this all the time. sharke likes this.

08-06-2012, 12:15 AM	#9
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,816 Blog Entries: 29	If even remotely true, this should open the doors for SP's speedier return!

08-06-2012, 12:16 AM	#10
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Originally Posted by SmashMouth If even remotely true, this should open the doors for SP's speedier return! Thats a good point. How about Loomis and Vitt too.

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