GumboBC

Heaven only knows? Now, you ought to know that the \"pessimists\" here don\'t believe in heaven. They need some hard proof that it exsists.

They gave up on the thought of there being a God when their prayers went unanswered that Jake Delhomme would get the nod over Aaron Brooks. :P

Being the optimist that I am, I believe in God and I beleive and Aaron Brooks and the Saints. But, getting these chumps to believe in Brooks, Haslett, and the Saints is a tall order.

You want to talk about heaven?! Heaven?! Dude, these guys don\'t believ in nothing that\'s not proven.... :P

I haven\'t deserted you saintfan. I gotcha back. This season here at B&G is going to be a blast.

Sunshiners vs. Whotangers. We\'ve signed more free agents this year. The tables have turned. 08 is the wild card. We need to put our best guy on 08. You can\'t stop 08 but we can hope to contain him.....LMAO.......

[Edited on 23/6/2004 by GumboBC]

saintfan

We sunshiners are gaining, but the dark side is strong.

08 is the leader of course, and his deciples are many.

Perhaps someone should challenge him for leadership of the clan. :P

Cassady37

Awww...the dark lord is powerful. I can gladly say I was his original nemesis way back when. Of course the topic was Aaron Brooks and since then he has pulled me in...couldn\'t resist...I feel the dark side.....of course, Haslett and Brooks had a lot to do with it. Lead on 08, the death star is near completion, I\'d say it\'ll be finished after this next year and then we\'ll RULE!

saintz08

With Hasbeen at the helm and fumbalaya under center , the universe is ours for the taking.....

Here is an interesting note :

ESPN25: WORST 25 TEAMS, 1979-2004

( Top choice of the experts to the left and to the right the voters poll )

WORST 25 TEAMS

As selected by ESPN25\'s Expert Panel WORST 25 TEAMS
As ranked by ESPN.com SportsNation users

1. 1991 Prairie View Football 1. 1991 Prairie View Football

2. 1981 Northwestern Football 2. 1980 New Orleans Saints

3. 1985 Columbia U. Football 3. 1999-00 L.A. Clippers


4. 1986-87 L.A. Clippers 4. 1997-98 Denver Nuggets

5. 1997-98 Denver Nuggets 5. 1991-92 Prairie View Hoops


6. 1992-93 San Jose Sharks 6. 1992-93 Dallas Mavericks

7. 1998 Florida Marlins 7. 1992-93 Ottawa Senators


8. 1991-92 Prairie View Hoops 8. 1998 Florida Marlins

9. 1996 Detroit Tigers 9. 2000 Duke Football

10. 1988 Baltimore Orioles 10. 1981 Northwestern Football

11. 1992-93 Ottawa Senators 11. 1990 N.E. Patriots

12. 1999-2000 L.A. Clippers 12. 1996 Detroit Tigers


13. 1988 Kansas State Football 13. 2002 TB Devil Rays

14. 1992-93 Dallas Mavericks 14. 1988 Baltimore Orioles


15. 1997 Rutgers Football 15. 1986-87 L.A. Clippers

16. 2002 TB Devil Rays 16. 1996 New York Jets


17. 1981-82 Cleveland Cavaliers 17. 1989 Dallas Cowboys

18. 1980 New Orleans Saints 18. 1997 Rutgers Football



19. 1996 New York Jets 19. 1992-93 San Jose Sharks

20. 2001 U. of Houston Football 20. 1985 Columbia U. Football


21. 1995-96 Vancouver Grizzlies 21. 1988 Kansas State Football

22. 1990 N.E. Patriots 22. 1995-96 Vancouver Grizzlies


23. 2000 Duke Football 23. 2001 U. of Houston Football

24. 1989 Dallas Cowboys 24. 1981-82 Cleveland Cavaliers


25. 1982-83 Houston Rockets 25. 1982-83 Houston Rockets

And a side note to the 80 season was that several players on the team at the time admitted to cocaine use during the games . Of course so did Lawrence Taylor but he made it to the Super Bowl .....

\"Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn\'t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.\" - George S. Patton
On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. - Saintfan
Brooks is a moron!! - Halo

JKool

Ok guys, I brought the granola. Dig in! This is gonna be one heck of a fun season.

I love you all. Ok, maybe not, but I sure do enjoy ya\'lls ramblin\'s.

Billy, before we get all sunshiney on yo\' azz, please explain how the coaching could be the reason for the late season collapses... We both know that there could be oh so many reasons for that...

I agree, Haz needs some boots to da nutz, but maybe he\'ll turn it around... ahhhhh, is that the sun coming up?

All right, everybody gather round, I brought the tree too and it may be time for a group hug.

[Edited on 24/6/2004 by JKool]

"... I was beating them with my eyes the whole game..." - Aaron Brooks

dberce1

Uhhhhh, do you 2 guys need some private time? We can leave yall alone if you need......

GumboBC

I\'m not absolutely sold that Haslett is entirely responsible for BOTH late season collapses or the collapse at the beginning of last season. But, I do hold him responsible for the team. I just don\'t we can give Haslett a free pass. It\'s one thing to spread some sunshine. Let\'s not get blinded by the sunshine.....


If you\'ve ever read some of mine and WhoDat\'s debates, then you know we get in some pretty heated battles. But, you start losing credibility if you don\'t step up to the plate and admit you\'re wrong.

There will be no alone time required... I\'m looking for the first chance I can find to make WhoDat look like the chump he is.... :P

WhoDat

Uh Billy - what? So you believe in things that can\'t be proven? Is that what you\'re saying? And we \"pessimists\" are by the numbers guys???

That sure does sound a tad bit different than:


And once again, the mighty Whodat pulls back the curtain to reveal to all the Sunshiners just who their leader truly is. I don\'t believe in MAGIC. This \"it\" talk is all hogwash. 10 seconds later - come now Saintfan, those guys don\'t believe in anything that can\'t be proven. I believe in Brooks.

Folks, I\'ve said it before and I will continue to say it - it all goes back to Brooks for this guy. He doesn\'t admit that players have intangibles b/c he knows Brooks has none. So now he\'s all about what he can prove with numbers.

Shall I go back to the 2002 season when I was using statistics like Passer Efficiency Rating, Completion Percentage, TD:INT ratio, Yards per Attempt to show Brooks was in the bottom part of the league amongst QBs? What did the guy say then? You can prove anything you want with statistics - they don\'t mean anything to me.

At least I am CONSISTENT in my ratings.

Keep looking. :P

Man, it\'s not a \"Perfect Thread\" without a good Billy burn. Where\'s that STALLOWNED picture?

[Edited on 24/6/2004 by WhoDat]

\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. That’s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans Saints’ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse


\"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

saintfan

The Movie? Ok, I\'m lost. Either too much or not enough Granola. JKool has been hoggin\' the tree.

saintfan

Just a little slow today. I get it. They failed to draw the correct numbers for the mega millions here in Texas again. I haven\'t recovered.