Backup QB

burningmetal · 08-10-2012, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

What happened with Tyler Palko? Wasn't he kinda decent?

Last I saw, he was with the Cheifs. Don't know if he still is.

CharityMike · 08-10-2012, 08:04 AM

I couldn't help but think these exact thoughts after watching tonights game. McCown has been in the league how long? He looked just as bad as Canefields.

TheOak · 08-10-2012, 08:21 AM

Not taking up for any of them... If Brees goes down we are hosed. Their playing style may be function of who they are trying to emulate....

Brees is an extremely quick route reader, he is also quick on the trigger with a quick ball.... I am sure Curly, Larry, and Moe all want to be like Shimp.... problem is that they can not run through the progressions as fast as Brees which throws the receivers off due to the change of pace.

The end result is 3 QB's that dont read progressions very well because they rush but can not process that fast... So they panic and just try to get rid of the ball.. except for Daniel who thinks he is Vick or "that guy" that went to the Jets (I cant say his name)...

Some of the throws from all three looked like the decision was made in the huddle and they were going to throw it at a point, after 3 steps, regardless if Elvis Aaron Presley him self was standing there.

McCowen is in his 9th year <---- this is not a project. Unles he is being kept to thwart off an age discrimination law suit he needs to go.

Daniel is in his 4th... He has value for a trade.. I don't care how hard he works or how much heart he has, the Chase Daniel project is not progressing, and if Brees goes down we are going to have to bring someone else to win anyway. After 4 years he has been evaluated enough. He "aint gettin it".

Canfield is a rook and I wont gig him yet.

228jits · 08-10-2012, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

I like Daniel. He's a fighter. He has skills. But, the one guy I would get if he was available would be Colt McCoy.

McCoy is garbage. Daniels is 10x the QB that McCoy will be. There is a reason he dropped so far in the draft. He had every piece needed to win national championships around him in Texas and couldn't get it done.

voodooido · 08-10-2012, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by 228jits

McCoy is garbage. Daniels is 10x the QB that McCoy will be. There is a reason he dropped so far in the draft. He had every piece needed to win national championships around him in Texas and couldn't get it done.

Remember, McCoy is in Cleveland. CLEVELAND!!!!!! He won 6 games in CLEVELAND!!!!! Sitting behind Brees for 3 years Im sure he would be better then what Daniels has been for the past 3 years. One way or another, they need a top 2 rd QB in the next 2 years to learn behind drew.

Danno · 08-10-2012, 10:59 AM

Every team in the top 10 would be devastated by losing their starter.

I doubt we'd fall to 3-13 because we'd still be better than most teams even with Daniel at the helm. We have a ton of weapons.

We'd be about an 8-8 team.

papz · 08-10-2012, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Saints are really screwed if Brees has to go out for anytime. I am convinced that the Saints do not have a capable backup QB on their roster at this time. If something were to happen to Brees, it is pretty much an automatic 3-13 season. Chase Daniel has been a tease, and has not shown any semblance of an NFL QB. Canfield is really a complete joke, and I have no idea why McClown is on the team.

As much as it pains me to say this, they should employ Jake Delhomme or Jeff Garcia as the backup QB. Seriously, could save a season if Brees pops an arm or something.

I guess the Patriots should be worried as well. There is about to be a boom on the market for washed up quarterbacks.

Chase Daniel isn't Drew Brees. Temper expectations... there's a reason why they are backup quarterbacks. Also wanted to point out that the Pats has some of their defensive starters playing into the 4th quarter.

QBREES9 · 08-10-2012, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

What happened with Tyler Palko? Wasn't he kinda decent?

God no, and he went to the Chiefs.

SaintsBro · 08-10-2012, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by x626xBlack

problem is that they can not run through the progressions as fast as Brees which throws the receivers off due to the change of pace.

The end result is 3 QB's that dont read progressions very well because they rush but can not process that fast... So they panic and just try to get rid of the ball.. except for Daniel who thinks he is Vick or "that guy" that went to the Jets (I cant say his name)...

Ya'll may scoff at this, but I actually think that the play where Chase takes off running like crazy for the green patch up the middle, then falls down, could actually move the chains in a tough game against a real team (even playoffs) and get some first downs and some yards when we need it, if God forbid we ever needed him to. He's no Brees, of course, but I'm just sayin' --Alex Smith does that trick. Smith did it to us late in the 2010 49ers game, they had a whole drive near the end of the game where he kept tucking and running with it, and catching people off guard, getting first downs. Then he did it again to us in the 2011 playoff game.

It's not how I'd want us to make our living, of course, but it theoretically could help us survive for like half a game, even maybe for a few games, just off the unpredictability.

mutineer10 · 08-10-2012, 01:03 PM

None of us would exactly be thrilled if Brees went down ... but as others have said, most teams would be in big trouble losing their starter. Heck, some teams are in trouble when their starter is perfectly healthy!

Given his familiarity with our system, team-friendly contract, etc. I guess Daniel is about as good as anyone we could pick up off the street. He's as good as most team's backup, anyway.

08-10-2012, 07:48 AM	#11
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Backup QB Originally Posted by Crusader What happened with Tyler Palko? Wasn't he kinda decent? Last I saw, he was with the Cheifs. Don't know if he still is.

08-10-2012, 08:04 AM	#12
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Backup QB I couldn't help but think these exact thoughts after watching tonights game. McCown has been in the league how long? He looked just as bad as Canefields.

08-10-2012, 08:21 AM	#13
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Backup QB Not taking up for any of them... If Brees goes down we are hosed. Their playing style may be function of who they are trying to emulate.... Brees is an extremely quick route reader, he is also quick on the trigger with a quick ball.... I am sure Curly, Larry, and Moe all want to be like Shimp.... problem is that they can not run through the progressions as fast as Brees which throws the receivers off due to the change of pace. The end result is 3 QB's that dont read progressions very well because they rush but can not process that fast... So they panic and just try to get rid of the ball.. except for Daniel who thinks he is Vick or "that guy" that went to the Jets (I cant say his name)... Some of the throws from all three looked like the decision was made in the huddle and they were going to throw it at a point, after 3 steps, regardless if Elvis Aaron Presley him self was standing there. McCowen is in his 9th year <---- this is not a project. Unles he is being kept to thwart off an age discrimination law suit he needs to go. Daniel is in his 4th... He has value for a trade.. I don't care how hard he works or how much heart he has, the Chase Daniel project is not progressing, and if Brees goes down we are going to have to bring someone else to win anyway. After 4 years he has been evaluated enough. He "aint gettin it". Canfield is a rook and I wont gig him yet. SmashMouth likes this.
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08-10-2012, 08:55 AM	#14
228jits Southern Sooner Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Gulfcoast, MS Posts: 83	Re: Backup QB Originally Posted by Cruize I like Daniel. He's a fighter. He has skills. But, the one guy I would get if he was available would be Colt McCoy. McCoy is garbage. Daniels is 10x the QB that McCoy will be. There is a reason he dropped so far in the draft. He had every piece needed to win national championships around him in Texas and couldn't get it done.

08-10-2012, 10:21 AM	#15
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: Backup QB Originally Posted by 228jits McCoy is garbage. Daniels is 10x the QB that McCoy will be. There is a reason he dropped so far in the draft. He had every piece needed to win national championships around him in Texas and couldn't get it done. Remember, McCoy is in Cleveland. CLEVELAND!!!!!! He won 6 games in CLEVELAND!!!!! Sitting behind Brees for 3 years Im sure he would be better then what Daniels has been for the past 3 years. One way or another, they need a top 2 rd QB in the next 2 years to learn behind drew. 73Saint likes this.
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08-10-2012, 10:59 AM	#16
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Backup QB Every team in the top 10 would be devastated by losing their starter. I doubt we'd fall to 3-13 because we'd still be better than most teams even with Daniel at the helm. We have a ton of weapons. We'd be about an 8-8 team. Utah_Saint likes this.

08-10-2012, 11:16 AM	#17
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Backup QB Originally Posted by MatthewT Saints are really screwed if Brees has to go out for anytime. I am convinced that the Saints do not have a capable backup QB on their roster at this time. If something were to happen to Brees, it is pretty much an automatic 3-13 season. Chase Daniel has been a tease, and has not shown any semblance of an NFL QB. Canfield is really a complete joke, and I have no idea why McClown is on the team. As much as it pains me to say this, they should employ Jake Delhomme or Jeff Garcia as the backup QB. Seriously, could save a season if Brees pops an arm or something. I guess the Patriots should be worried as well. There is about to be a boom on the market for washed up quarterbacks. Chase Daniel isn't Drew Brees. Temper expectations... there's a reason why they are backup quarterbacks. Also wanted to point out that the Pats has some of their defensive starters playing into the 4th quarter. D_it_up likes this.

08-10-2012, 11:19 AM	#18
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Backup QB Originally Posted by Crusader What happened with Tyler Palko? Wasn't he kinda decent? God no, and he went to the Chiefs.

08-10-2012, 12:58 PM	#19
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Backup QB Originally Posted by x626xBlack problem is that they can not run through the progressions as fast as Brees which throws the receivers off due to the change of pace. The end result is 3 QB's that dont read progressions very well because they rush but can not process that fast... So they panic and just try to get rid of the ball.. except for Daniel who thinks he is Vick or "that guy" that went to the Jets (I cant say his name)... Ya'll may scoff at this, but I actually think that the play where Chase takes off running like crazy for the green patch up the middle, then falls down, could actually move the chains in a tough game against a real team (even playoffs) and get some first downs and some yards when we need it, if God forbid we ever needed him to. He's no Brees, of course, but I'm just sayin' --Alex Smith does that trick. Smith did it to us late in the 2010 49ers game, they had a whole drive near the end of the game where he kept tucking and running with it, and catching people off guard, getting first downs. Then he did it again to us in the 2011 playoff game. It's not how I'd want us to make our living, of course, but it theoretically could help us survive for like half a game, even maybe for a few games, just off the unpredictability. SloMotion likes this.

08-10-2012, 01:03 PM	#20
mutineer10 Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,739	Re: Backup QB None of us would exactly be thrilled if Brees went down ... but as others have said, most teams would be in big trouble losing their starter. Heck, some teams are in trouble when their starter is perfectly healthy! Given his familiarity with our system, team-friendly contract, etc. I guess Daniel is about as good as anyone we could pick up off the street. He's as good as most team's backup, anyway. SloMotion likes this.

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