9 A.M. Vilma Hearing

RaginCajun83 · 08-10-2012, 10:54 AM

That was a good one, I liked a couple of my own, I just can't take this "trial of Vilma" seriously at all

TheOak · 08-10-2012, 10:55 AM

No new tweets.. i am going to step out for a few minutes.

QBREES9 · 08-10-2012, 10:58 AM

i wonder if this will go all day

Halo · 08-10-2012, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

i wonder if this will go all day

Judge said she WILL NOT rule today.
She won't rule on this until Aug. 30th

Encouraging parties to make a settlement.
She's hoping they can come together and make this end.

QBREES9 · 08-10-2012, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

Judge said she WILL NOT rule today.
She won't rule on this until Aug. 30th

Encouraging parties to make a settlement.
She's hoping they can come together and make this end.

They should get together and come to a settlement. Get it out of the courts.

QBREES9 · 08-10-2012, 10:59 AM

They'll break for lunch soon. I would think.

SmashMouth · 08-10-2012, 11:02 AM

Hasn't the judge already done her homework prior to this hearing? One would think it might be sufficient for today. More likely, she does not want the additional notoriety.

Halo · 08-10-2012, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Hasn't the judge already done her homework prior to this hearing? One would think it might be sufficient for today. More likely, she does not want the additional notoriety.

Absolutely. She also DOES NOT want the courts butting in on each agreement like this.

She's very serious when she says she wants both parties to come to a settlement. That's an EXTREMELY subtle hint to both - there will probably be no winners on either side.

She's looking for the law to favor Vilma. It's interpretation, but it's also a reach. The NFL has a point, there is a signed agreement that has heavy legal ground.

When a judge overturns a written agreement and settles in favor of an employee, that judgement is EASY overturn-able in higher courts.... in fact a higher court may INSTANTLY grant a stay of a judgement in the court of appeals so they can hear BOTH sides of the argument.

Judge Berrigan can only offer temporary relief for Vilma and send a message to the NFL... but it's temporary. The FINAL, good solution is for a settlement to happen in this matter and both parties return to this agreement and try to learn from the errors both have made to prevent a mess like this from happening again.

TXGSP · 08-10-2012, 11:03 AM

Appears judge is swayed, but wants to make sure of authority...

Judge stated in open court the process was unfair and "conduct detrimental" really questioned if it was nothing more that a way to circumvent other provisions in the CBA.

If this is pushed into a Salary-Cap violation by the statements and possible later ruling.

Does a Salary Cap violation allow suspensions of Team executives, coaches, or players? If not looks like EVERYONE could wind up back at work...

|Mitch| · 08-10-2012, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by TXGSP

Does a Salary Cap violation allow suspensions of Team executives, coaches, or players? If not looks like EVERYONE could wind up back at work...

Don't get your hopes up; Roger will find a way to loophole himself in the right...

08-10-2012, 10:54 AM	#1
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: 9 A.M. Vilma Hearing That was a good one, I liked a couple of my own, I just can't take this "trial of Vilma" seriously at all

08-10-2012, 10:55 AM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: 9 A.M. Vilma Hearing No new tweets.. i am going to step out for a few minutes.

08-10-2012, 10:58 AM	#3
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,989	Re: 9 A.M. Vilma Hearing i wonder if this will go all day

08-10-2012, 11:01 AM	#4
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,854 Blog Entries: 45	Re: 9 A.M. Vilma Hearing Originally Posted by QBREES9 i wonder if this will go all day Judge said she WILL NOT rule today. She won't rule on this until Aug. 30th Encouraging parties to make a settlement. She's hoping they can come together and make this end.

08-10-2012, 11:07 AM	#5
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,989	Re: 9 A.M. Vilma Hearing Originally Posted by Halo Judge said she WILL NOT rule today. She won't rule on this until Aug. 30th Encouraging parties to make a settlement. She's hoping they can come together and make this end. They should get together and come to a settlement. Get it out of the courts.

08-10-2012, 10:59 AM	#6
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,989	Re: 9 A.M. Vilma Hearing They'll break for lunch soon. I would think.
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08-10-2012, 11:02 AM	#7
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: 9 A.M. Vilma Hearing Hasn't the judge already done her homework prior to this hearing? One would think it might be sufficient for today. More likely, she does not want the additional notoriety.

08-10-2012, 11:12 AM	#8
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,854 Blog Entries: 45	Re: 9 A.M. Vilma Hearing Originally Posted by SmashMouth Hasn't the judge already done her homework prior to this hearing? One would think it might be sufficient for today. More likely, she does not want the additional notoriety. Absolutely. She also DOES NOT want the courts butting in on each agreement like this. She's very serious when she says she wants both parties to come to a settlement. That's an EXTREMELY subtle hint to both - there will probably be no winners on either side. She's looking for the law to favor Vilma. It's interpretation, but it's also a reach. The NFL has a point, there is a signed agreement that has heavy legal ground. When a judge overturns a written agreement and settles in favor of an employee, that judgement is EASY overturn-able in higher courts.... in fact a higher court may INSTANTLY grant a stay of a judgement in the court of appeals so they can hear BOTH sides of the argument. Judge Berrigan can only offer temporary relief for Vilma and send a message to the NFL... but it's temporary. The FINAL, good solution is for a settlement to happen in this matter and both parties return to this agreement and try to learn from the errors both have made to prevent a mess like this from happening again. kcsaints likes this.
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08-10-2012, 11:03 AM	#9
TXGSP LET MY TEAM GO! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Just north of COWGAL HELL Posts: 296	Re: 9 A.M. Vilma Hearing Appears judge is swayed, but wants to make sure of authority... Judge stated in open court the process was unfair and "conduct detrimental" really questioned if it was nothing more that a way to circumvent other provisions in the CBA. If this is pushed into a Salary-Cap violation by the statements and possible later ruling. Does a Salary Cap violation allow suspensions of Team executives, coaches, or players? If not looks like EVERYONE could wind up back at work... Halo and Beastmode like this.

08-10-2012, 11:08 AM	#10
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: 9 A.M. Vilma Hearing Originally Posted by TXGSP Does a Salary Cap violation allow suspensions of Team executives, coaches, or players? If not looks like EVERYONE could wind up back at work... Don't get your hopes up; Roger will find a way to loophole himself in the right...

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