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Matt, Roddy, Julio, TongG, Michael T, Harry Douglas > MJD and a better online thats all he had to work with so the only thing he could do was run and be simple with Blaine Gabbert at QB.

Even with a garbage O-line he still could have did more with us than the Jaguars.

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Last I heard Gonzo was thinking about retirement... If you're already thinking it, you're already there...

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Yes but we had one of the best O-Lines in the league to protect Matt and Michael Turner wasnt hot garbage then either. Most of the time we would win by the skin of our teeth do to the conservative play calling. This past season we got Julio and Jacquizz to become more explosive Mike Mularkey isnt a aggressive OC so he held the offense back.

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He isnt a big part of our O so it doesnt matter, he didnt even get a ball thrown his way lastnight. Wish he would have retired so we wouldnt have to pay him so much.

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I don't understand. So you're saying now that you've got a worse offensive line and Turner is hot garbage, the falcons will be better?

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No. You can't.

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saintkiller sure makes this a treat to good bs. so the falclowns showed off last nite ah. i did see some tape, they were firing it. did the starters go for 3 quarters? just bullin

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Gonzales had 875 yards, a 68.9 reception percentage (better than the QB throwing to him) and 7 touchdowns last season. Sure looks like he's a HUGE part of the falcons O.

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Dont burst his bubble. Let him go on thinking all this. He has a long fall come regular season.

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C'mon man, you know the Falcons don't have too far to fall... They haven't done much to "rise up" :bng:

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No! Were better because our O-line is solid and were finally using all our weapons to the best of their abilities, like running screens and vertical routes with our playmakers(Julio, Roddy, HarryD, Quizz Rodgers and Jason Snelling) instead of just lining up and running up the gut with Turner for 2 yards. Another thing that will make us better is our defense, which is better than that conservative crap we had last year also.

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The scheme may be better, but the players aren't... Didn't improve at all on that side of the ball... Tried, but Lofa didn't work out, and your 2nd year starting MLB has a glass chin...

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That was last year in a conservative scheme! where does a non deep threat TE fit into a aggressive scheme? He is to slow to be a deep threat and to slow to run a TE screen.

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The D is way better go watch the game for yourself, we finally have a pass rush, we finally could get off the field on 3rd down and our DBs are lights out. How many times do we have to say we dont even use a MLB because our base D is the nickel 4-2-5 with the 2LBs being OLBs?

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Does it bother you that you had coordinators that got the falcons to 13-3 just two years ago and they fired them to hire coordinators that have left teams worse than they came just about every place they've coached in the NFL?

Oh, and Turner's hot garbage and Gonzales is too slow now. (those are your words)

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It's not like we can't survive without Tony G.

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No way, you can stay in the 4-2-5 all game... And one quarter of a preseason game doesn't mean anything... Against the Ravens O-Line at that, which lost their best lineman in Grubbs, who is now with us and looks to be just as good as Nicks *maybe better

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They went 13-3 because they ran into creampuff schedule and like every season lately, didnt have any injuries hardly.

Thats been the reason behind their success with a 13 win and 10 win campaign as of the recent years.


I think the Falcons need to watch footage of their 2008 season because they had more of an identity that season than they ever had under Mike Smith and co, at least they stuck to doing what they do best that season. Thats truly been a more successful year for the Falcons than any other year under Matt Ryan/Mike smith.

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I'm looking through the records, I don't think Nolan or Koetter have ever been on a 13-3 team in their careers.

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I do agree with Saintkiller, but I don't think Tony Gonzalez is too old and slow.

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No because their schemes are a better fit they just didnt have the talent like we do and it showed last night.

Ask yourself when was the last time you guys feared Michael Turner? He isnt the same thats why his reps are getting cut and he is one dimensional.

TonyG has been slow for the last 2/3 seasons so why is that even a question? I didnt say he sucked

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I think Turner is declining, too. He got stuck in the backfield way too much last season.

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Question is: When's the last time we feared the Falcons? we have won 10 of the last 12 if I recall correctly...

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But wasn't that from the bad offensive line that Saintkiller was talking about?

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Thats when Turners was "The Burner" as in speed, do you think he is fast and explosive now?

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He thinks one quarter of preseason does mean something. The Falcons also showed their hand in opening the playbook while most teams go vanilla their first couple of pre season games. They keep it up and they are going to give opposing teams a ton of tape before the season even starts.

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... gee, I don't know.. 3rd downs? Last year Gonzalez had 53 catches resulting in a 1st down, according to Yahoo Sports. You don't want the Falcons to utilize that, fine.

I guess you really think an "aggressive" scheme is just bombs away, and you are envisioning 50-70 yd bombs to J. Jones every offensive possession. Chances are, that's not going to happen.

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Both.

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The question wasn't whether he was slow. You said he wasn't part of the falcons offense anymore. I just pointed out that he was a big part of the falcons offense just last season.

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Probably, but the best running backs are able to make big gains out of absolutely nothing all the time.

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Im talking about now, not last year! they didnt even look his way last night.

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Fixed...

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Wasn't Turner the third leading rusher in the NFL last year? And didn't you guys say before the o-line was bad last year? Wouldn't that be making yards out of nothing?

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Preseason is preseason. No one is showing their hand whether it be offense or defense.

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He was third in rushing yards. I said he either got stuck barely across the line of scrimmage or in the backfield way too much last year.

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Well if the third leading rusher isn't good enough for the new falcons offense, how good does he have to be?

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I'm not saying he totally sucks, but hey, he's 30 now, and we've got to move on from him soon. Notice that JacQuizz Rodgers had more carries than Turner had last night. JacQuizz was taken out for the night the same time that the rest of the starters were benched. If the training camp reports I'd been reading over the season are correct, Rodgers is going to start getting as much carries as he does.

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So what do you think your record will be? Do you see the Falcons sweeping the Saints this year?

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I see a split betwaeen the Falcons and Saints. I expect us to win 11-12 games this year.

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I am not even sure if Mike Nolan is a good D-Coordinator, I never seen his body of work like more well known D-Coordinators like a Rex Ryan, Gregg Williams, Steve Spags, or Wade Philips.

I consider Nolan a lesser coach of the defense than any of those guys. I remember when Nolan coached San Fran and they never had a defense or an offense for that matter. He went to Denver, not even sure what denvers defense was like last year, it didnt stand out to me none.

Now you got Nolan going to Atlanta, question I am asking is, what is on that roster defense wise that Nolan is really going to use and make a good defense out of? Answer is, I see pretty much nothing except maybe 2 players that are at least decent, I think one is a LB and the other a CB. I think the Falcons last D-Coordinator probably got about as much out of that unit as one could get, I cant imagine Mike Nolan getting anymore out of it, he may end up getting less since Lofton is gone.

I dunno about Koetter, is Koetter the OC they hired from JAX?

All I know is is that they trying to change up to a passing team now more than a running team, they need to know if Matt Ryan can succeed in such a system, when Ryan has been forced to air it out, it has not been a pretty sight.