Why Can't We Tackle??

Ashley · 08-18-2012, 10:24 PM

Point is for the past few years this has been a big problem, whether it's new players, new coaching .... it's just been a fact. Until we can put it together during the regular season. Then I will jump off the no tackling bandwagon

Utah_Saint · 08-18-2012, 11:17 PM

Old habits are hard to break. It's mostly the same players the Saints have had for years now. We've seen improvements over just a few weeks. There have been several good reasons why a team might look flat or slow off the mark already mentioned in this thread. Awesome defenses aren't built overnight. And it's just a preseason game. Remember, the Saints don't need a top 5 defense, it would be nice but with this offense they just need to be above average.

No reason to worry.

spkb25 · 08-18-2012, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by GoofySaint

Nonetheless, they still lost, And they went on to lose more games the next few years. If the 85 bears of all people know what's it's like to taste defeat then we shouldn't be surprised that our "work in progress" defense suffered too. Come on! We expect a team that was one of the worst defenses last year to suddenly become the 85 bears in no time at all?

Plus like I said, it's preseason. The 2008 lions were perfect in the preseason, right before they went 0-16.

I wasn't arguing anything you said- matter of fact I hadn't read anything other than you saying the 85 Bears lost games. I was correcting that. They lost one.

And no I do not expect us to be the 85 Bears, where did you get that from anything I posted? Missed tackles is garbage for professionals making millions of dollars. There is no argument for missed tackles. PR being first game back I can understand, but not the rest.

I am fairly certain the Jags were missing both starting tackles last night and one of the best running backs in the game- Considering those facts I find our run D to be a bit of a worry. That's all.

I agree with you though- the expectation has to be tempered a bit

spkb25 · 08-18-2012, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

I think preseason is a no-win situation for any NFL team with their fans.

If the 1st string defense looks good, oh-well it was against an opponent playing "vanilla" style offense.

If the 1st string defense looks bad, everyone should panic because it's a good indicator of what's to come - ie. getting steamrolled.

If the offense plays great, then that's because they payed a defense calling "vanilla" formations and practicing fundamentals.

If the offense plays poorly, then uh-oh, time to panic.

I don't put much into preseason, and I think these are really fair points, but at the same time when you consider who they were missing on Offense and running on us like that -I am worried about our run D. I hope it is nothing to worry about, but I think the cards and Pats ran well against us too, so...

And I think missed tackles are BS, Preseason or not

I am interested in how we look this week against the Texans. Hopefully a hell of a lot better than last night

saintfan · 08-19-2012, 12:06 AM

Oh No! We suck again!

Halo · 08-19-2012, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I don't put much into preseason, and I think these are really fair points, but at the same time when you consider who they were missing on Offense and running on us like that -I am worried about our run D. I hope it is nothing to worry about, but I think the cards and Pats ran well against us too, so...

And I think missed tackles are BS, Preseason or not

I am interested in how we look this week against the Texans. Hopefully a hell of a lot better than last night

Let's put it this way.... a "FINE" performance by our defense this week against the Texans will do a LOT to calm my mind, and the minds of millions of Saints fans.

QBREES9 · 08-19-2012, 12:18 AM

Great Question, I wish I had the answer.

st thomas · 08-19-2012, 12:56 AM

Patrick Robinson needs to keep his head up on tackles, its all fundamentals that he is still having problems with. Man he needs to tighten up.

Halo · 08-19-2012, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

Patrick Robinson needs to keep his head up on tackles, its all fundamentals that he is still having problems with. Man he needs to tighten up.

Robinson really had a poor game. Totally agree here.

QBREES9 · 08-19-2012, 01:09 AM

Will this game be on the NFL Replay Ok I found it Monday at 10:30

08-18-2012, 10:24 PM	#21
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Why Can't We Tackle?? Point is for the past few years this has been a big problem, whether it's new players, new coaching .... it's just been a fact. Until we can put it together during the regular season. Then I will jump off the no tackling bandwagon Halo, spkb25 and CharityMike like this.

08-18-2012, 11:17 PM	#22
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Why Can't We Tackle?? Old habits are hard to break. It's mostly the same players the Saints have had for years now. We've seen improvements over just a few weeks. There have been several good reasons why a team might look flat or slow off the mark already mentioned in this thread. Awesome defenses aren't built overnight. And it's just a preseason game. Remember, the Saints don't need a top 5 defense, it would be nice but with this offense they just need to be above average. No reason to worry.

08-18-2012, 11:55 PM	#23
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Why Can't We Tackle?? Originally Posted by GoofySaint Nonetheless, they still lost, And they went on to lose more games the next few years. If the 85 bears of all people know what's it's like to taste defeat then we shouldn't be surprised that our "work in progress" defense suffered too. Come on! We expect a team that was one of the worst defenses last year to suddenly become the 85 bears in no time at all? Plus like I said, it's preseason. The 2008 lions were perfect in the preseason, right before they went 0-16. I wasn't arguing anything you said- matter of fact I hadn't read anything other than you saying the 85 Bears lost games. I was correcting that. They lost one. And no I do not expect us to be the 85 Bears, where did you get that from anything I posted? Missed tackles is garbage for professionals making millions of dollars. There is no argument for missed tackles. PR being first game back I can understand, but not the rest. I am fairly certain the Jags were missing both starting tackles last night and one of the best running backs in the game- Considering those facts I find our run D to be a bit of a worry. That's all. I agree with you though- the expectation has to be tempered a bit
	Your team stinks

08-18-2012, 11:57 PM	#24
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Why Can't We Tackle?? Originally Posted by Halo I think preseason is a no-win situation for any NFL team with their fans. If the 1st string defense looks good, oh-well it was against an opponent playing "vanilla" style offense. If the 1st string defense looks bad, everyone should panic because it's a good indicator of what's to come - ie. getting steamrolled. If the offense plays great, then that's because they payed a defense calling "vanilla" formations and practicing fundamentals. If the offense plays poorly, then uh-oh, time to panic. I don't put much into preseason, and I think these are really fair points, but at the same time when you consider who they were missing on Offense and running on us like that -I am worried about our run D. I hope it is nothing to worry about, but I think the cards and Pats ran well against us too, so... And I think missed tackles are BS, Preseason or not I am interested in how we look this week against the Texans. Hopefully a hell of a lot better than last night Halo likes this.

08-19-2012, 12:06 AM	#25
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08-19-2012, 12:16 AM	#26
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,750 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Why Can't We Tackle?? Originally Posted by spkb25 I don't put much into preseason, and I think these are really fair points, but at the same time when you consider who they were missing on Offense and running on us like that -I am worried about our run D. I hope it is nothing to worry about, but I think the cards and Pats ran well against us too, so... And I think missed tackles are BS, Preseason or not I am interested in how we look this week against the Texans. Hopefully a hell of a lot better than last night Let's put it this way.... a "FINE" performance by our defense this week against the Texans will do a LOT to calm my mind, and the minds of millions of Saints fans. spkb25 likes this.

08-19-2012, 12:18 AM	#27
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08-19-2012, 12:56 AM	#28
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08-19-2012, 12:58 AM	#29
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,750 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Why Can't We Tackle?? Originally Posted by st thomas Patrick Robinson needs to keep his head up on tackles, its all fundamentals that he is still having problems with. Man he needs to tighten up. Robinson really had a poor game. Totally agree here.

08-19-2012, 01:09 AM	#30
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