Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant

WhoDat!656 · 08-18-2012, 07:05 PM

When audio surfaced from a defensive meeting the night before the Saints’ postseason loss to the 49ers, much of the conversation regarding former Saints defensive back Steve Gleason — whose unique access to the team allowed the tape to be made — centered on whether his desire for discretion should have been honored by the filmmaker who captured the words of former Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.

Gleason, whose blocked punt that will echo in eternity is now memorialized in bronze outside the Superdome, now addresses the substance of the remarks in an interview with HBO’s Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel.

And the man whose ALS may have been caused by a career in football that entailed having his bell rung “hundreds” of times took exception to Williams’ directive to attack certain body parts of specific offensive players.

“[W]hen he specified the other players’ injuries, that to me, was over the line,” Gleason said in a rough cut of the show, which PFT obtained from HBO.

Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant | ProFootballTalk

Halo · 08-18-2012, 08:35 PM

YAWWWN, Gleason said what?

Tobias-Reiper · 08-18-2012, 08:50 PM

Of course they weren't shocked... they have been hearing the same crap from GW for 3 years. GW is the dude who did the Triple H crotch thing, for crying out loud. I don't think Gleason was around defensive meetings that much since he retired.

Beastmode · 08-18-2012, 09:15 PM

In the heat of the moment people make harsh comments. As unsettling as it sounds, what he said and what happened on the field are completely two different realities.

Being a former Marine, I've heard my fair share of fiery brand speeches that would make his speech sound like a tupperware party. Did I ever eat the young of my enemy? Did I ever kill enemies to hear their women and childred cry? Of course not. It's chest beating rhetoric to fire people up.

If I do this stuff the only thing in it for me is a likely cell in Fort Levinworth and for sure a lifetime of guilt. Just the fact the Saints were penalized for illegal hits says it all to me. Reward a player for a "cart off" but penalize him for an illegal hit? It makes no freakin sense. What kind of bounty system does that? I'll tell you what kind; none.

Halo · 08-18-2012, 09:26 PM

And the man whose ALS may have been caused by a career in football that entailed having his bell rung “hundreds” of times took exception to Williams’ directive to attack certain body parts of specific offensive players.

“[W]hen he specified the other players’ injuries, that to me, was over the line,” Gleason said in a rough cut of the show, which PFT obtained from HBO.

Sounds to me his agenda is the new coalition of former players suing the NFL for head injuries? I'm trying to understand why there is alarm over the incident and audio now because just months ago it was Gleason who DID NOT want the audio to be released and did his part to explain away its content.

As for Williams' comments, I mean come on. My little league football coach regularly directed me to "kill 'em" when referring to opponents, and described many situations where we should be "drinking blood."

From what I understand, compared to my brothers' coaches, mine was a cupcake.

spkb25 · 08-19-2012, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

Sounds to me his agenda is the new coalition of former players suing the NFL for head injuries? I'm trying to understand why there is alarm over the incident and audio now because just months ago it was Gleason who DID NOT want the audio to be released and did his part to explain away its content.

As for Williams' comments, I mean come on. My little league football coach regularly directed me to "kill 'em" when referring to opponents, and described many situations where we should be "drinking blood."

From what I understand, compared to my brothers' coaches, mine was a cupcake.

You know I love Steve and I didn't want to come on here and say this out of fear I'd look heartless, but that is exactly my question. Wasn't he pissed a few months ago that this was released without his permission? Now it seems like he has done a 180.

Agreed, one of my HS coaches did the same thing before a game against a team that was sure to destroy us (and did). He's like- this is David vs Goliath, now go out and F someone up. Lower your F-ing head and put someone on the bench.

Just to get you pumped to play hard. Nothing more.

saintfan · 08-18-2012, 10:48 PM

I was an infielder and pitcher when I played baseball from 7 years to 18 years old. Every coach I ever had, EVER, instructed me to throw at a guy to back him off the plate if that's what it took. Yes, even 7 years old in Pee Wee league. That's how the game is played.

All this crap about Williams' speech is a politically correct world run completely amuck. It's a mob mentality. The vigilantes are out in full force. Hypocrites one and all.

QBREES9 · 08-18-2012, 11:23 PM

You do what ever it takes to take out the other teams bast player. The team you're palying was told to do the same thing.

It's just how you present it.

Boutte · 08-18-2012, 11:27 PM

Says the guy who once punched an opponent in the 'nads.l

Halo · 08-19-2012, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by Boutte

Says the guy who once punched an opponent in the 'nads.l

Oh, you mean this....

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08-18-2012, 07:05 PM	#1
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,085	Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant When audio surfaced from a defensive meeting the night before the Saints’ postseason loss to the 49ers, much of the conversation regarding former Saints defensive back Steve Gleason — whose unique access to the team allowed the tape to be made — centered on whether his desire for discretion should have been honored by the filmmaker who captured the words of former Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams. Gleason, whose blocked punt that will echo in eternity is now memorialized in bronze outside the Superdome, now addresses the substance of the remarks in an interview with HBO’s Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel. And the man whose ALS may have been caused by a career in football that entailed having his bell rung “hundreds” of times took exception to Williams’ directive to attack certain body parts of specific offensive players. “[W]hen he specified the other players’ injuries, that to me, was over the line,” Gleason said in a rough cut of the show, which PFT obtained from HBO. Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant \| ProFootballTalk
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08-18-2012, 08:35 PM	#2
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,854 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant YAWWWN, Gleason said what? Seer1 likes this.

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Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant Of course they weren't shocked... they have been hearing the same crap from GW for 3 years. GW is the dude who did the Triple H crotch thing, for crying out loud. I don't think Gleason was around defensive meetings that much since he retired. Halo, spkb25, Ashley and 1 others like this.

08-18-2012, 09:15 PM	#4
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant In the heat of the moment people make harsh comments. As unsettling as it sounds, what he said and what happened on the field are completely two different realities. Being a former Marine, I've heard my fair share of fiery brand speeches that would make his speech sound like a tupperware party. Did I ever eat the young of my enemy? Did I ever kill enemies to hear their women and childred cry? Of course not. It's chest beating rhetoric to fire people up. If I do this stuff the only thing in it for me is a likely cell in Fort Levinworth and for sure a lifetime of guilt. Just the fact the Saints were penalized for illegal hits says it all to me. Reward a player for a "cart off" but penalize him for an illegal hit? It makes no freakin sense. What kind of bounty system does that? I'll tell you what kind; none. Halo, spkb25, Ashley and 2 others like this.
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08-18-2012, 09:26 PM	#5
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,854 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant And the man whose ALS may have been caused by a career in football that entailed having his bell rung “hundreds” of times took exception to Williams’ directive to attack certain body parts of specific offensive players. “[W]hen he specified the other players’ injuries, that to me, was over the line,” Gleason said in a rough cut of the show, which PFT obtained from HBO. Sounds to me his agenda is the new coalition of former players suing the NFL for head injuries? I'm trying to understand why there is alarm over the incident and audio now because just months ago it was Gleason who DID NOT want the audio to be released and did his part to explain away its content. As for Williams' comments, I mean come on. My little league football coach regularly directed me to "kill 'em" when referring to opponents, and described many situations where we should be "drinking blood." From what I understand, compared to my brothers' coaches, mine was a cupcake. Beastmode likes this.
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08-19-2012, 02:23 PM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant Originally Posted by Halo Sounds to me his agenda is the new coalition of former players suing the NFL for head injuries? I'm trying to understand why there is alarm over the incident and audio now because just months ago it was Gleason who DID NOT want the audio to be released and did his part to explain away its content. As for Williams' comments, I mean come on. My little league football coach regularly directed me to "kill 'em" when referring to opponents, and described many situations where we should be "drinking blood." From what I understand, compared to my brothers' coaches, mine was a cupcake. You know I love Steve and I didn't want to come on here and say this out of fear I'd look heartless, but that is exactly my question. Wasn't he pissed a few months ago that this was released without his permission? Now it seems like he has done a 180. Agreed, one of my HS coaches did the same thing before a game against a team that was sure to destroy us (and did). He's like- this is David vs Goliath, now go out and F someone up. Lower your F-ing head and put someone on the bench. Just to get you pumped to play hard. Nothing more. Halo likes this.
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08-18-2012, 10:48 PM	#7
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant I was an infielder and pitcher when I played baseball from 7 years to 18 years old. Every coach I ever had, EVER, instructed me to throw at a guy to back him off the plate if that's what it took. Yes, even 7 years old in Pee Wee league. That's how the game is played. All this crap about Williams' speech is a politically correct world run completely amuck. It's a mob mentality. The vigilantes are out in full force. Hypocrites one and all. Halo, QBREES9, jlouhill and 1 others like this.

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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,989	Re: Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant You do what ever it takes to take out the other teams bast player. The team you're palying was told to do the same thing. It's just how you present it. spkb25 likes this.

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Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant Says the guy who once punched an opponent in the 'nads.l Halo, Danno and sharke like this.

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