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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Why is Gleason even interjecting in this? Not only is it beating a dead horse, but seriously................. what's with the timing here???????? Haven't we covered this from 1.5 million points of view??? Seriously..............

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Old 08-19-2012, 01:04 AM   #11
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Re: Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant

Why is Gleason even interjecting in this? Not only is it beating a dead horse, but seriously................. what's with the timing here????????
Haven't we covered this from 1.5 million points of view???

Seriously...........
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Says the guy who once punched an opponent in the 'nads.l
Oh, you mean this....
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Did he deserve it?
Of course he did! The only one deserving it more would've been a Falcon player!
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Re: Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant

Moving on....next?
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Re: Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant

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Why is Gleason even interjecting in this? Not only is it beating a dead horse, but seriously................. what's with the timing here????????
Haven't we covered this from 1.5 million points of view???

Seriously...........
My thoughts exactly!!

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Old 08-19-2012, 12:29 PM   #16
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Re: Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant

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Why is Gleason even interjecting in this? Not only is it beating a dead horse, but seriously................. what's with the timing here????????
Haven't we covered this from 1.5 million points of view???

Seriously...........
I get what you're saying, but the real issue of timing is that this is a new HBO show that is coming out, which could have been months in the making. I agree with you, why now, but keep in mind-- for all we know, the actual interview with Gleason itself could be from anytime, from back in February or something. We just don't know. Think of "Game Of Thrones" or "Treme"...HBO takes months to get their stuff together.

I think that Gleason is also saying "no one was shocked" but keep in mind, he was only there in the room as a guest when the insane 49ers speech was given-- he was not privy to what the current players said or did amongst themselves, especially all season long. He doesn't know who was really shocked or not.

Maybe "no one was shocked" because Williams had been saying psychotic and insane stuff for three years, as an obvious rhetorical or allegorical device. But it wasn't real, which is what everyone who was really on the inside is saying, including Vitt and Gregg Williams himself ('he knew it was wrong but got carried away with it").

Because it's obvious from the way that they played all year, that the Saints defensive players were used to Williams' rantings, and they took it with a HUGE grain of salt,or understood that it was just rhetoric or language. It's a weird thing for Gleason to say, but I will wait until I see the whole interview to decide what I think. But.. if you put yourself back in the moment when Pampillon "leaked" that audio, this quote sounds exactly like the type of comment that many people were making back when that 49ers audio first dropped, in the initial flush of anger, not what people are saying now. It could be footage which somebody taped and then sat on. We'll find out.
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Re: Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant

Really likin' Treme, just to change the subject.
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Re: Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant

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Sounds to me his agenda is the new coalition of former players suing the NFL for head injuries? I'm trying to understand why there is alarm over the incident and audio now because just months ago it was Gleason who DID NOT want the audio to be released and did his part to explain away its content.

As for Williams' comments, I mean come on. My little league football coach regularly directed me to "kill 'em" when referring to opponents, and described many situations where we should be "drinking blood."

From what I understand, compared to my brothers' coaches, mine was a cupcake.
You know I love Steve and I didn't want to come on here and say this out of fear I'd look heartless, but that is exactly my question. Wasn't he pissed a few months ago that this was released without his permission? Now it seems like he has done a 180.

Agreed, one of my HS coaches did the same thing before a game against a team that was sure to destroy us (and did). He's like- this is David vs Goliath, now go out and F someone up. Lower your F-ing head and put someone on the bench.

Just to get you pumped to play hard. Nothing more.
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Old 08-19-2012, 11:11 PM   #19
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Re: Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant

I garee with Haloe, Seer and Speedy Ron.

Butttttt, Gleason's piece on Gumbels's show will air just as 2012 football season kicks off..timing.
I really want the bou***** story to end and move on. Done. Whatever still happening with it is on the last page of things.
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Re: Gleason bothered that “no one seemed shocked” by Gregg Williams’ pre-game rant

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I agree with you, why now, but keep in mind-- for all we know, the actual interview with Gleason itself could be from anytime, from back in February or something. We just don't know. Think of "Game Of Thrones" or "Treme"...HBO takes months to get their stuff together.
I think my comment on timing also had a lot to do with what his foundation tweeted:

“@HBO: Jon Frankel visits Steve Gleason on the 8/21 #RealSports Twitpic - Share photos and videos on Twitter " Hope the feature is as awesome as this pic. -SG
https://twitter.com/team_gleason/sta...22545015697408
I don't know what they're trying to accomplish. You are correct that this may have been a piece done months ago and also they may have highlighted something Gleason said and took it out of context.
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