What other team...

CharityMike · 08-26-2012, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by poydras

I can see why people put weird special characters in their username. It makes it hard to put them on the ignore list.

LMAO..funny guy!!

poydras · 08-26-2012, 12:47 AM

My problem is that I'm very worried about our defense. Yes, I know we have injuries but we ALWAYS have injuries. On the texans first drive tonight, they went 80 yards and I don't think they had a third down. When the guys announcing the game say things like "the texans are putting on a clinic", you have to worry.

CharityMike · 08-26-2012, 12:49 AM

Originally Posted by poydras

My problem is that I've very worried about our defense. Yes, I know we have injuries but we ALWAYS have injuries. On the texans first drive tonight, they went 80 yards and I don't think they had a third down. When the guys announcing the game say things like "the texans are putting on a clinic", you have to worry.

I hear ya and I thought the exact same thing. Thats why I am wondering if we game planned for a lot of rushing and they roap'a'doped us and came out passing. This zone D has me a little concerned especially since it seems MALCOM JENKINS don't know where he is suppose to be!

spkb25 · 08-26-2012, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by poydras

My problem is that I'm very worried about our defense. Yes, I know we have injuries but we ALWAYS have injuries. On the texans first drive tonight, they went 80 yards and I don't think they had a third down. When the guys announcing the game say things like "the texans are putting on a clinic", you have to worry.

Yeah, were some holes and some misses, but the thing that gives me comfort, and maybe it shouldn't, but we are no worse than last year, with the ability to improve and get better as the season goes on. Plus I think we are going to gget more sacks and more turnovers. Hope this is true

|Mitch| · 08-26-2012, 12:54 AM

last year I was saying the same thing about when we were in man coverage all the time.

Spags has faith in his zone defense, and seeing what he turned the Giants into in his time there; no way we can be as bad as we were last year...

CharityMike · 08-26-2012, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

last year I was saying the same thing about when we were in man coverage all the time.

Spags has faith in his zone defense, and seeing what he turned the Giants into in his time there; no way we can be as bad as we were last year...

Without a doubt, his record speaks for itself. He just needs to put his foot up MJ's rear. Those 2 wide open catch's were because MJ was in lala land.

poydras · 08-26-2012, 01:03 AM

I guess I always feel like this before the regular season starts. I rarely make the preseason games so that I have time I can take off to attend the games that matter, so I still haven't seen us play in person yet. There's a heck of a lot of things going on that you miss when you watch the games on TV. I'll know more about our team after watching them in person when we play the redskins.

The Dude · 08-26-2012, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by poydras

The problem there is that we only faced their first team for half a game and they scored 24. You really want to give up 48 points a game AT HOME?

We scored 24 too, and it was against their top ranked defense. I would love to be putting up 48 points on top ranked defenses all year.

SaintsBro · 08-26-2012, 03:09 AM

Originally Posted by poydras

I guess I always feel like this before the regular season starts. I rarely make the preseason games so that I have time I can take off to attend the games that matter, so I still haven't seen us play in person yet. There's a heck of a lot of things going on that you miss when you watch the games on TV. I'll know more about our team after watching them in person when we play the redskins.

It does look a little different in person. One thing I've noticed this year, it kinda feels like the offense can really TURN IT ON, almost at will. I mean these drives where Brees is 6 for 6, where Graham and Pierre and Colston and the rest are clicking, they just march down the field -- those drives look AMAZING from in the stands, when you see everybody spread out.

In person, I felt like the Jacksonville game was, we got punched in the mouth. They just came in and wanted to punch us in the mouth. But after the fumble, Brees had that next drive where he looked insanely good, and it was like 17-10 at the half. But the vibe was that it had completely turned around -- if this was a normal game it really felt to me like the second half would have turned into a typical beatdown, like 31-16 or something.

The defense looks pretty terrible in person, but it's still kind of a work in progress. It seems to me like they start out godawful SUCKING, OH GAWD, but then by the time they get a grip on things, second quarter, it gets a LOT harder for the other team's offense, the defense are not sucking quite so bad, and then they fold it up and the 2nd string comes in. Just an impression.

burningmetal · 08-26-2012, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by poydras

Now that you mention it; not really. Charge out of the gate into a 14 point hole: check.... get back in the game with a drive and then a weird TD off a fumble return on the ensuing kick off: check... they take the lead we get it back: check ... get hosed by the refs: check.... take the eventual lead after a review that we probably won't get in the regular season: check .... hartley miss a dang field goal that would have clinched the game: check ... survive some really questionable play calling by our coaches and win or lose on what happens in the final 10 seconds: check..... ok, I guess that's pretty much business as usual

Well if you want to look at it in the negative sense, then yeah. But my point is things are not being run any differently, or at least not in any way that is obvious at this point. The Saints always look bad in preseason.

You remember in Payton's first year with us, we played the Cowboys in preseason and lost something like 31-13, I wanna say? Everyone was freaking out. We went on to make the playoffs and beat those same Cowboys 42-17 along the way.

Last year, we got embarrassed by the Texans in the preseason, then beat them in the regular season. There are certain things, like missed tackles and mainly injuries, that you can take away as negatives in these games, but everything else you have to take with a grain of salt. Considering the amount of success we've had, I'll gladly take business as usual... But I do think the defense will be much better this year.

08-26-2012, 12:43 AM	#11
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: What other team... Originally Posted by poydras I can see why people put weird special characters in their username. It makes it hard to put them on the ignore list. LMAO..funny guy!!

08-26-2012, 12:47 AM	#12
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: What other team... My problem is that I'm very worried about our defense. Yes, I know we have injuries but we ALWAYS have injuries. On the texans first drive tonight, they went 80 yards and I don't think they had a third down. When the guys announcing the game say things like "the texans are putting on a clinic", you have to worry.

08-26-2012, 12:49 AM	#13
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: What other team... Originally Posted by poydras My problem is that I've very worried about our defense. Yes, I know we have injuries but we ALWAYS have injuries. On the texans first drive tonight, they went 80 yards and I don't think they had a third down. When the guys announcing the game say things like "the texans are putting on a clinic", you have to worry. I hear ya and I thought the exact same thing. Thats why I am wondering if we game planned for a lot of rushing and they roap'a'doped us and came out passing. This zone D has me a little concerned especially since it seems MALCOM JENKINS don't know where he is suppose to be!

08-26-2012, 12:53 AM	#14
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: What other team... Originally Posted by poydras My problem is that I'm very worried about our defense. Yes, I know we have injuries but we ALWAYS have injuries. On the texans first drive tonight, they went 80 yards and I don't think they had a third down. When the guys announcing the game say things like "the texans are putting on a clinic", you have to worry. Yeah, were some holes and some misses, but the thing that gives me comfort, and maybe it shouldn't, but we are no worse than last year, with the ability to improve and get better as the season goes on. Plus I think we are going to gget more sacks and more turnovers. Hope this is true Boutte likes this.

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08-26-2012, 12:55 AM	#16
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: What other team... Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| last year I was saying the same thing about when we were in man coverage all the time. Spags has faith in his zone defense, and seeing what he turned the Giants into in his time there; no way we can be as bad as we were last year... Without a doubt, his record speaks for itself. He just needs to put his foot up MJ's rear. Those 2 wide open catch's were because MJ was in lala land.

08-26-2012, 01:03 AM	#17
poydras Team Doctor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Deep South Posts: 856	Re: What other team... I guess I always feel like this before the regular season starts. I rarely make the preseason games so that I have time I can take off to attend the games that matter, so I still haven't seen us play in person yet. There's a heck of a lot of things going on that you miss when you watch the games on TV. I'll know more about our team after watching them in person when we play the redskins. exiled likes this.

08-26-2012, 01:19 AM	#18
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: What other team... Originally Posted by poydras The problem there is that we only faced their first team for half a game and they scored 24. You really want to give up 48 points a game AT HOME? We scored 24 too, and it was against their top ranked defense. I would love to be putting up 48 points on top ranked defenses all year.
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08-26-2012, 03:09 AM	#19
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What other team... Originally Posted by poydras I guess I always feel like this before the regular season starts. I rarely make the preseason games so that I have time I can take off to attend the games that matter, so I still haven't seen us play in person yet. There's a heck of a lot of things going on that you miss when you watch the games on TV. I'll know more about our team after watching them in person when we play the redskins. It does look a little different in person. One thing I've noticed this year, it kinda feels like the offense can really TURN IT ON, almost at will. I mean these drives where Brees is 6 for 6, where Graham and Pierre and Colston and the rest are clicking, they just march down the field -- those drives look AMAZING from in the stands, when you see everybody spread out. In person, I felt like the Jacksonville game was, we got punched in the mouth. They just came in and wanted to punch us in the mouth. But after the fumble, Brees had that next drive where he looked insanely good, and it was like 17-10 at the half. But the vibe was that it had completely turned around -- if this was a normal game it really felt to me like the second half would have turned into a typical beatdown, like 31-16 or something. The defense looks pretty terrible in person, but it's still kind of a work in progress. It seems to me like they start out godawful SUCKING, OH GAWD, but then by the time they get a grip on things, second quarter, it gets a LOT harder for the other team's offense, the defense are not sucking quite so bad, and then they fold it up and the 2nd string comes in. Just an impression.

08-26-2012, 05:25 PM	#20
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What other team... Originally Posted by poydras Now that you mention it; not really. Charge out of the gate into a 14 point hole: check.... get back in the game with a drive and then a weird TD off a fumble return on the ensuing kick off: check... they take the lead we get it back: check ... get hosed by the refs: check.... take the eventual lead after a review that we probably won't get in the regular season: check .... hartley miss a dang field goal that would have clinched the game: check ... survive some really questionable play calling by our coaches and win or lose on what happens in the final 10 seconds: check..... ok, I guess that's pretty much business as usual Well if you want to look at it in the negative sense, then yeah. But my point is things are not being run any differently, or at least not in any way that is obvious at this point. The Saints always look bad in preseason. You remember in Payton's first year with us, we played the Cowboys in preseason and lost something like 31-13, I wanna say? Everyone was freaking out. We went on to make the playoffs and beat those same Cowboys 42-17 along the way. Last year, we got embarrassed by the Texans in the preseason, then beat them in the regular season. There are certain things, like missed tackles and mainly injuries, that you can take away as negatives in these games, but everything else you have to take with a grain of salt. Considering the amount of success we've had, I'll gladly take business as usual... But I do think the defense will be much better this year.
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